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post #61 of 478
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Originally Posted by k3oxkjo View Post

It will be interesting to see if UE will try and block the UM being sold in countries where they could theoretically enforce their patent rights. 

 

It would be hilarious to watch them try...

post #62 of 478
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It will be interesting to see if UE will try and block the UM being sold in countries where they could theoretically enforce their patent rights. 

UM doesn't have any retail locations in North America as far as I know, so people would just be getting them imported like their IEM's. Can't block that.

post #63 of 478
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

 

 

Bina, did you mean "So this device will not make Customs better than Miracle, but it will be like top customs on high-end rig?"  I too don't understand how you came to the conclusion that if the JH-3A is better than any other stand alone device you have heard, the Pure 6 won't be.  I can see that if the passive crossover is in the JH-3A box it can be much more complex and use better components, improving phase performance.

 

 

Yeah I wrote it bad. I think it will be on same level or better than JH-3A. With that last sentence  I just mean there is nothing magic in customs, but that rig combined will offer sounds as some uber mega high-end rig.

post #64 of 478

OK stupid question time, the Pure can be used with an iPod/iPhone via LOD or an Android DAP/handset via headphone out, right? If this is correct is is feasible to mate the Pure with a iPod CLAS setup or even mate it with a USB audio out on an Android handset? I'm curious about the possibilities on how far this can be taken mobile rig wise.

post #65 of 478
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OK stupid question time, the Pure can be used with an iPod/iPhone via LOD or an Android DAP/handset via headphone out, right? If this is correct is is feasible to mate the Pure with a iPod CLAS setup or even mate it with a USB audio out on an Android handset? I'm curious about the possibilities on how far this can be taken mobile rig wise.

it sounded like you need a digital out, not analog line out.
post #66 of 478

This is part of what the JH3A was supposed to be, with the active crossover, which is the half that jerry harvey couldnt deliver on due to patent reasons, the other half, is the perfect phase and time alignment, which the 3A still has, we dont know if this new CIEM from Unique Melody has perfect phase, since that wasnt mentioned in the OP...is there an english announcment page for this that might mention that?

 

Edit: and i guess that maybe i didnt make it clear, but the phase alignment is the more important of the two in producing better SQ out of a system like this than removing the crossover would be...so here's to hoping that they are goign to be using the DSP to produce perfect phase and time alignment in the Pure 6, cause i would love to buy one if that were the case. not to mention that UM is more of an "audiophile" company, whereas JHAudio is more of a "professional" company, so i think odds are good that UM might have put more effort into making sure they used a higher quality DAC and amps for this than JHAudio might have.


Edited by SoupRKnowva - 6/10/12 at 1:39pm
post #67 of 478
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post

This is part of what the JH3A was supposed to be, with the active crossover, which is the half that jerry harvey couldnt deliver on due to patent reasons, the other half, is the perfect phase and time alignment, which the 3A still has, we dont know if this new CIEM from Unique Melody has perfect phase, since that wasnt mentioned in the OP...is there an english announcment page for this that might mention that?

 

Edit: and i guess that maybe i didnt make it clear, but the phase alignment is the more important of the two in producing better SQ out of a system like this than removing the crossover would be...so here's to hoping that they are goign to be using the DSP to produce perfect phase and time alignment in the Pure 6, cause i would love to buy one if that were the case. not to mention that UM is more of an "audiophile" company, whereas JHAudio is more of a "professional" company, so i think odds are good that UM might have put more effort into making sure they used a higher quality DAC and amps for this than JHAudio might have.

 

I think it's kind of implied, but not specifically spelled out.

 

There isn't really a "formal" announcement yet - Joe and I (and likely a few others) were both given the heads up from Stephen Guo at Custom-IEM.com, but I don't see it on his website yet, nor do I find it on the UM global site either. 

 

At this point we don't know much else. I'm sure as time passes we will get more info though - I'd like to know more about the DAC implementation, phase and time alignment, input options, etc. 

post #68 of 478
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I think it's kind of implied, but not specifically spelled out.

 

There isn't really a "formal" announcement yet - Joe and I (and likely a few others) were both given the heads up from Stephen Guo at Custom-IEM.com, but I don't see it on his website yet, nor do I find it on the UM global site either. 

 

At this point we don't know much else. I'm sure as time passes we will get more info though - I'd like to know more about the DAC implementation, phase and time alignment, input options, etc. 

 

true, i went and asked on the facebook "announcement" post for it jsut now, lets see if they respond to me about the phase/time alignment question  smily_headphones1.gif

post #69 of 478

What else would the DSP be for?  EQ profiles??

post #70 of 478
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What else would the DSP be for?  EQ profiles??

 

the active crossover would be done in the DSP as well.

post #71 of 478

Well I've never heard of advertising a DSP simply as an active crossover, that would be a waste of potential IME.  I guess we'll find out.  I'm actually more concerned w/ the DAC/AMP implementation.  I'd love to have a LO too as these all in ones tend to be a compromise in some regard.  For this level of expected performance I'd hate to be hamstrung by a mediocre amp section especially not knowing who is making it.

post #72 of 478
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Well I've never heard of advertising a DSP simply as an active crossover, that would be a waste of potential IME.  I guess we'll find out.  I'm actually more concerned w/ the DAC/AMP implementation.  I'd love to have a LO too as these all in ones tend to be a compromise in some regard.  For this level of expected performance I'd hate to be hamstrung by a mediocre amp section especially not knowing who is making it.

 

i guess thats true, but a DSP is really the only way to accomplish a digital active crossover, and i imagine that the extra equipment necessary to perform the phase and time alignment measurements would be costly would it not? and im not trying to be contrarian or anything Anaxilus, just trying to temper my enthusiasm  smily_headphones1.gif

post #73 of 478
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

Well I've never heard of advertising a DSP simply as an active crossover, that would be a waste of potential IME.  I guess we'll find out.  I'm actually more concerned w/ the DAC/AMP implementation.  I'd love to have a LO too as these all in ones tend to be a compromise in some regard.  For this level of expected performance I'd hate to be hamstrung by a mediocre amp section especially not knowing who is making it.

 

 

Wouldn't the active aspect of it preclude it from working with a line out to a separate amp? Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible, I've been up for way too long already today). 

post #74 of 478
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Wouldn't the active aspect of it preclude it from working with a line out to a separate amp? Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible, I've been up for way too long already today). 

 

Hmm, not sure, I've seen active DSP boxes working w/ separate external amps (car audio) though often mated to a proprietary model line so perhaps you'd be right about that.  Maybe I've been up to long.  tongue_smile.gif

 

http://reviews.cnet.com/car-gps-navigation/alpine-pxa-h900-dsp/1707-3430_7-30232773.html

 

http://vault.alpine-usa.com/products/documents/PXA-H900AO%20IM.PDF


Edited by Anaxilus - 6/10/12 at 3:46pm
post #75 of 478
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

 

 

Wouldn't the active aspect of it preclude it from working with a line out to a separate amp? Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible, I've been up for way too long already today). 

 

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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

 

Hmm, not sure, I've seen active DSP boxes working w/ separate external amps (car audio) though often mated to a proprietary model line so perhaps you'd be right about that.  Maybe I've been up to long.  tongue_smile.gif

 

for a line out such as what you wanted Anaxilus, where you could bypass both the internal dac and amps, you would need 3 spdif outputs(either rca or optical) and then the accompanying 3 dacs and 3 amps and then tie it all together with the single plug(probably something very similar to what JHAudio is using) to go to the earpiece. and considering the size of the box...i really dont see that happening.

 

i think your best bet, would be to hope that maybe down the road, that UM could come up with a desktop unit that would obviously cost extra, that you could plug your IEMS into. and with that they would put alot more effort into power supplies, DACs and amps and such. and i think there would be a better chance of this from UM than from JHAudio, but i still dont see it being particularly likely, though maybe with enough demand they would look into such an undertaking.


Edited by SoupRKnowva - 6/10/12 at 3:48pm
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