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post #2536 of 2542
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Thanks. It's just a temporary solution, i'm cleaning out my closets and found another turntable with a p24, while my 2nd SL-7 has a P202C. The styli are most likely aftermarket, but i want to eventually get another Grado on the SL-7 anyway.

Here's the setup as of now. Try not to cringe too hard. You may hurt yourself wink.gif

Philips 22rh452 speakers
Technics su-z100 (phono) amp
Technics SL-7 turntable

Quite a nice little vintage setup - I do not know this particular Philips model of speakers, but sometimes they can positively surprise.

 

Grado P-Mount carts work VERY well with Technics linear arm - the only problem is a bit of hum as the cartridge nears towards the centre of the record,  where of course the motor is situated. Most of the time, it is not objectionable. It is the similar hum problem as Grado on SL1200.

 

This one, if and when working properly ( again, the suspension ) , mops the floor with pretty much anything else ever made : http://www.ebay.de/itm/TECHNICS-EPC-P205CMK3-T4P-for-SL-SP-15-10-7-100-101-1000-/281365027028?pt=Plattenspieler&hash=item4182a998d4   Price is steep, but most certainly not unreasonable. Definitely worth any rettiping cost after the diamond is worn. No current production cartridge can touch it - and it really comes to life in Technics linear arm.

 

But it requires considerably better amp and speakers than above in order to show what it is all about.

post #2537 of 2542
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post

Quite a nice little vintage setup - I do not know this particular Philips model of speakers, but sometimes they can positively surprise.

Grado P-Mount carts work VERY well with Technics linear arm - the only problem is a bit of hum as the cartridge nears towards the centre of the record,  where of course the motor is situated. Most of the time, it is not objectionable. It is the similar hum problem as Grado on SL1200.

This one, if and when working properly ( again, the suspension ) , mops the floor with pretty much anything else ever made : http://www.ebay.de/itm/TECHNICS-EPC-P205CMK3-T4P-for-SL-SP-15-10-7-100-101-1000-/281365027028?pt=Plattenspieler&hash=item4182a998d4   Price is steep, but most certainly not unreasonable. Definitely worth any rettiping cost after the diamond is worn. No current production cartridge can touch it - and it really comes to life in Technics linear arm.

But it requires considerably better amp and speakers than above in order to show what it is all about.

I connected my FiiO X5 to the amp, and i was indeed amazed at how well it all sounds.

Sadly this also shows how "not good" the turntable sounds.
Might have to do with the dust, but i suspect the stylus is at it's end as well. (Luckily i've got a 2nd one)

I have to say i'm more of a headphone guy, but this will do just fine for now.

Almost any time i talk to you, i have to check my wallet for funds :P
post #2538 of 2542
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I connected my FiiO X5 to the amp, and i was indeed amazed at how well it all sounds.

Sadly this also shows how "not good" the turntable sounds.
Might have to do with the dust, but i suspect the stylus is at it's end as well. (Luckily i've got a 2nd one)

I have to say i'm more of a headphone guy, but this will do just fine for now.

Almost any time i talk to you, i have to check my wallet for funds :P

If it sounds harsh and piercing, maybe kinda ok at the begginng of the record, getting ever worse towards the centre - replace the stylus immediately. If it is the stylus in the photo, it may well be the original - and if it is otherwise good, worth retipping. So please do not throw it away.

 

Well, it was more meant to alert you if this cart *somehow* gets spotted in your local shop someplace - extremely unlikely, but possible; on ebay - or anyplace else where are auctions - the laws of supply and demand are still very much in force. Cart is rare, even its photos, so if you see any dark red "praying mantis" (my immediate association because of its shape ) for sale, with or without the turntable, you will know how it looks like and what to look for.

 

EPC202C with boron cantilever does not lag behind the EPC-P205CMK3 too much; it is its little brother, the difference being in channel separation above approx 4 kHz. It is still a formidable cartridge.

post #2539 of 2542

Is Shure L720 A moving magnet or moving coil thats what I have hooked up to my Technics Sl-D1 late 70's early 80's phono player? Could you help please I am looking for a pre-amp so I can hook it up to my Sony Receiver which has no inputs and none others work . the record player does though. Thanks Well appretiated.

post #2540 of 2542
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Is Shure L720 A moving magnet or moving coil thats what I have hooked up to my Technics Sl-D1 late 70's early 80's phono player? Could you help please I am looking for a pre-amp so I can hook it up to my Sony Receiver which has no inputs and none others work . the record player does though. Thanks Well appretiated.

You have most likely mixed Stanton L720A for Shure - but both are MM cartridges, requiring the same kind of preamplification. Whether Stanton is actually a  Moving Iron or Moving Magnet does not matter - preamp requirements remain the same.

 

If I understand you correctly, your Sony Receiver has no phono input. You will need a phono preamp - to plug it into line level input ( tuner, aux, tape, CD - the same thing ), so you must have at least one of those inputs available.

 

Phono preamps  start at something like http://www.ebay.com/itm/TCC-TC-750-Phono-Preamp-NEW-SILVER-finish-version-/110453152349?pt=US_Record_Player_Turntable_Parts&hash=item19b7855a5d - and march into stratosphere if so desired. I have this preamp - and it is surprisingly very good. Not stellar, but definitely decent for the money - and then some more. There are other not so much more costly preamps, like NAD PP2, Cambridge 640 P , etc, etc - please read the thread. 

 

More important than phono section is the quality of the stylus/cartridge - at the budget of mentioned equipment, the rafinements in better electronics will generally be overshadowed by the stylus/cart defficiences - so it is there where more money should go for the best overall result. The quality of electronics really starts to play role much higher up in quality/price; by the time you reach that level, you will know what sound you are after and which equipment can supply it - at much more $. 

post #2541 of 2542

Thank you so much ,you have been the most help out of the past few days! You were right I have the Stanton had them mixed up. I just bought the TCC TC-750LC professional moving magnet preamp for under $50. So Thanks and wish you well! 

Bye. Russ

post #2542 of 2542
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Thank you so much ,you have been the most help out of the past few days! You were right I have the Stanton had them mixed up. I just bought the TCC TC-750LC professional moving magnet preamp for under $50. So Thanks and wish you well! 

Bye. Russ

You welcome. Hope you like the vinyl experience overall in the long run !

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