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post #1276 of 2538
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My first spin of Mastodon's "The Hunter" on LP was interesting. 

I did the same exact thing, and listened to it all the way through (on purpose).  

 

It's much easier to follow the drum fills when it's slower.  biggrin.gif

post #1277 of 2538

They do but I don't think to check speed PER SIDE. "Oh this must be a 33 because the first side is a 33." WRONG.

 

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@MorbidToaster, I think the Sunn discs have it marked somewhere but not sure at the moment was it on the labels or the sleeves. It is unique in that sensebiggrin.gif

 

That 45 cut of The Hunter is the best sounding Metal LP I own. It's just soooo good. They did a 33 cut with different cover art and a different master (IIRC). The 33 was the reissue and the 45 was the first pressing. Same with Crack the Skye. Blood Mountain's 45 cut was a reissue and the original pressing was the 33, but the 45 is better.

 

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My first spin of Mastodon's "The Hunter" on LP was interesting. I was enjoying the hell out of the track "Black Tongue", and then the vocals started, and I knew it was wrong. Sure enough, "The Hunter" was done at 45rpm.  The sad part - I liked it better at 33rpm! No diss on Mastodon - I love 'em.  But Black Tongue was better slower tongue_smile.gif

post #1278 of 2538
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It would be better for the inner groove distortion ( you can always make a run out groove on the rim, so it in theory should not skid off the platter ) - but worse regarding warp induced garbage. You would have a "rodeo"  going on in the symphonic climaxes - not a good thing and not much you can really do about unless going for the vacuum hold down sytem turntable.

Good that Digital Propellerheads ( copyrighted, patented, trademarked,  etc by Chris J ) do not read this - as they would have probably laughed us out of head-fi entirely ...

Hey!
You owe me royalties! tongue.gif

BTW......good thing this thread isn't in the Science Forum......the screaming and evangelizing would never let up......rolleyes.gif
post #1279 of 2538
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That 45 cut of The Hunter is the best sounding Metal LP I own. It's just soooo good. They did a 33 cut with different cover art and a different master (IIRC). The 33 was the reissue and the 45 was the first pressing. Same with Crack the Skye. Blood Mountain's 45 cut was a reissue and the original pressing was the 33, but the 45 is better.

That's good to hear. It as one of the first ones I ordered after I got the table. And I was reading on the Steve Hoffman forum that the 45s were kind of a mixed bag for their other CDs. And from what I saw, the 45s were the limited edition and the 33s were the regular editions. I think both were available from the start
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That's good to hear. It as one of the first ones I ordered after I got the table. And I was reading on the Steve Hoffman forum that the 45s were kind of a mixed bag for their other CDs. And from what I saw, the 45s were the limited edition and the 33s were the regular editions. I think both were available from the start

The rest of their LPs are a mixed bag but the 45s are all great. Leviathan doesn't have a great LP cut, for example.

 

You may be right on the time frames. I just remember that being the way they were ordered on Discogs. 

post #1281 of 2538
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That's good to hear. It as one of the first ones I ordered after I got the table. And I was reading on the Steve Hoffman forum that the 45s were kind of a mixed bag for their other CDs. And from what I saw, the 45s were the limited edition and the 33s were the regular editions. I think both were available from the start
The rest of their LPs are a mixed bag but the 45s are all great. Leviathan doesn't have a great LP cut, for example.

You may be right on the time frames. I just remember that being the way they were ordered on Discogs. 

Oh cool, I'll have to get the rest of the 45s as well in the future.

First my cartridge(I ended up getting a 10x5) and pre amp need to get here so I can set this beast up and starting spinning some vinyl
post #1282 of 2538
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Hey!
You owe me royalties! tongue.gif

BTW......good thing this thread isn't in the Science Forum......the screaming and evangelizing would never let up......rolleyes.gif

That BTW was meant with the reference to your copyrighted etc invention.

 

Well, it is a bit weird that a thing about the size of a posh ipod ( Korg MR 1 DSD recorder ) almost mops the floor with even the best turntable in absolute terms - not to mention the inconviniences of analog vinyl.

 

We have a saying :

 

ALMOST never caught  a rabitt

 

That is why I still persevere with analog - but DSD recording at 5.6 MHz will yield a barely perceptible difference between vinyl played live and/or good DSD recording. There is a minuscule top end extension/air missing on the recording - incomparably less than say with CD-R. What is for certain - if a hair worse table is used for live playback, the recording of better table will win.

 

It might lead to digitizing the entire collection - and playing vinyl only for some festive ocasion.

 

I am afraid the ones I should not mention due to royalties etc would have a field day reading this statement  - even if it is in favour of DSD they say is an overkill for music.

post #1283 of 2538
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Oh cool, I'll have to get the rest of the 45s as well in the future.

First my cartridge(I ended up getting a 10x5) and pre amp need to get here so I can set this beast up and starting spinning some vinyl

Blood Mountain is still somewhat reasonable and easy to find but Crack the Skye's price has skyrocketed. 100+ for that one. One of the few records I actually plan to buy at that price.

post #1284 of 2538
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Oh cool, I'll have to get the rest of the 45s as well in the future.

First my cartridge(I ended up getting a 10x5) and pre amp need to get here so I can set this beast up and starting spinning some vinyl

Blood Mountain is still somewhat reasonable and easy to find but Crack the Skye's price has skyrocketed. 100+ for that one. One of the few records I actually plan to buy at that price.


Wow, yeah Im not sure Ill ever spend that much on a record. Maybe for tool, eventually i will need both Lateralus and Aenima on vinyl...

 

speaking of setting this thing up, i have a dizzying number of options here

post #1285 of 2538

Lateralus is dirt cheap and is a picture disc...Aenima on the other hand...You're looking at around 400 bucks for a legit copy.

post #1286 of 2538

Man, TTVJ apparently doesnt keep any Dynavector carts in stock, and i guess the distributor in america is moving or something, so they werent gonna get any more in stock for quite a while. Called the needle doctor and they said the same thing, non in stock for a few weeks. So then i called Music direct, and then also decided to splurge a bit more, and they had the Dynavector 17D3 in stock, so hopefully ill have my cart in time for my next weekend which will start on tuesday afternoon :D

post #1287 of 2538

Welcome to analog. "WELL IF I SPEND ANOTHER 800 DOLLARS..."

post #1288 of 2538
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Welcome to analog. "WELL IF I SPEND ANOTHER 800 DOLLARS..."


LOL i rationalize it by saying thats one less piece i will have to upgrade down the road. Now all ill really need to upgrade is my ****ty phono stage to the ZP3, but i also think i want a bobs devices SUT, which is another 8-1200 bucks...

 

But i really liked the idea of the 17D3, so i figured why not tongue.gif

post #1289 of 2538

Yeah, you think you won't upgrade...but then you have nothing left to upgrade a cart seems like a good idea...

 

:)

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LOL i rationalize it by saying thats one less piece i will have to upgrade down the road. Now all ill really need to upgrade is my ****ty phono stage to the ZP3, but i also think i want a bobs devices SUT, which is another 8-1200 bucks...

 

But i really liked the idea of the 17D3, so i figured why not tongue.gif

post #1290 of 2538
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Yeah, you think you won't upgrade...but then you have nothing left to upgrade a cart seems like a good idea...

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That is definitely true, but it at least pushes my cartridge upgrade out further than before :P

And I'll be getting a new dac before I do that as well. I need a master 7...I'll be getting my zp3 first though. That's the first upgrade
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