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post #16 of 30
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Originally Posted by underhysteria View Post

- No dedicated portable dac for android players (apple has fostex)

I'm confused by this point here as I am running my Fiio E7 via a USB OTG cable - are you meaning something else than I'm thinking?

 

Re the sound quality - unless running via DAC every now and then I have a very brief crack / pop at random points in tracks (so not attributed to clipping etc) - is this something that you've noticed?

 

Thanks for the round up, and for confirming that I am a little bit crazy (having the Sony Z and Samsung S3 and Note at the same time)...

 

Re the Note, I prefer its TouchWiz implementation compared to the S3, and its sound is warmer (more akin to the old Sony X) which is more my thing, but the S3, with its crisper SQ and its ability to run as USB OTG - and it pains me to say this - is the winner between the two Samsung flagships...

post #17 of 30

does anyone have a comparison between the cowon z2 and the galaxy s iii??  I'm looking for a new phone with the best audio quality I can get, but if I cant get that then i would just use my old nokia dumbphone and get a dedicated mp3 player, like the z2.  so help!  i would use sennheiser IE8s with them.  thanks!


Edited by sLaYDeMOn - 6/12/12 at 10:28pm
post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

I'm confused by this point here as I am running my Fiio E7 via a USB OTG cable - are you meaning something else than I'm thinking?

 

 

What im saying is that there are no high quality amp/dacs specially catered for Android Devices. Yes the fiios are compatible with them but are no way superior to the apple+fostex HP-P1 combo . I've listened to the iphone with HP-P1 and it simply sounds way better than the S3 but do the setup alone is simply $$$

post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post


 

Re the sound quality - unless running via DAC every now and then I have a very brief crack / pop at random points in tracks (so not attributed to clipping etc) - is this something that you've noticed?

 


 


  hi i hear the same crack and pop on some tracks i wonder what it is i thought my sg3 was faulty but i dont think it is ..is it a software problem?

post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by sLaYDeMOn View Post

does anyone have a comparison between the cowon z2 and the galaxy s iii??  I'm looking for a new phone with the best audio quality I can get, but if I cant get that then i would just use my old nokia dumbphone and get a dedicated mp3 player, like the z2.  so help!  i would use sennheiser IE8s with them.  thanks!

 

To help answer this, I know that the D3 (Z2 predecessor) used the Wolfson WM8960 chip.

According to this thread the S3 uses the Wolfson WM1811

Perhaps someone can tell from the specs for the Wolfsons which is better? I know that doesn't mean that one device doesn't implement the components better than the other, but would be a starting point for comparison...
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/codecs/WM8960/
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/

 

 

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Originally Posted by underhysteria View Post

 

What im saying is that there are no high quality amp/dacs specially catered for Android Devices. Yes the fiios are compatible with them but are no way superior to the apple+fostex HP-P1 combo . I've listened to the iphone with HP-P1 and it simply sounds way better than the S3 but do the setup alone is simply $$$

 

I'm still fairly new to this, but I think that the ibasso D12 would be a step in the right direction towards matching the apple+HP-P1 combo (assuming usb hosting works). The D12 is still close to 2/3 or half the cost of the HP-P1 though. Hopefully ibasso will eventually upgrade the D12 with something suitable (e.g. use what they learned from designing the DX100 and make a standalone DAC/AMP device using the ES9018 32 bit DAC chip). Or else other companies will design and release hi end portable DAC/Amp combos which work with android devices which support usb hosting.


Edited by analogue 3 - 6/14/12 at 5:03am
post #21 of 30
Thread Starter 

A point to take note: Compared to other dedicated audio players, the S3 has very little juice in it.. it has barely enough power to feed the 8.A (3/4 vol for a decent listening experience). I wouldnt advise you guys to go beyond 35ohms for this player.

post #22 of 30

The S3 headphone out is underwhelming in my book.

 

Just another proof that the brand of dac is not as important as the implementation. The birth and long life of the Wolfson myth is really curious.
 

post #23 of 30
I hope it's a software problem. However, the SQ is quite good now, and should get better after voodoo being implemented.
post #24 of 30

I'm surprised at the lack of people hearing the distortion.. not really sure what that says lol...

 

Anyway, people mentioning the weak headphone out, I agree 100%, it makes my Trumpets sound very thin, making my 'not so' portable setup mandatory for a good listening session on the train :(

 

Another +1 waiting for supercurio - got his beer money ready to send ;)

post #25 of 30

Has anyone on this thread heard the samsung galaxy wifi 4.0 or 4.2?  Wondering how that compares. 

post #26 of 30

Fix for the cracking/popping issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758633

 

Also if you use the Siyah kernel it increase the output from the headphone! There are also mods that allow you to increase the volume with other kernels but Siyah is great untill Voodoo is out 

post #27 of 30
I have a galaxy note and a japanese walkman z1070.
If I use the headphone output I like more the sony z.
I have two amp a ttvj slim and an O2 amp.
I use a fiio lod with my walkman but the result is no so god, contrary to what I aspecting the Gnote is a little bit enjoable connect to an amp respect to the Z.

At this point I have a question :
Have the Z a real line out??????????
I am a bit disappointed about the quality of line out of Z wk.
My headphone are an hd 650 and a sony ex 1000.


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post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by gattari View Post

I have a galaxy note and a japanese walkman z1070.
If I use the headphone output I like more the sony z.
I have two amp a ttvj slim and an O2 amp.
I use a fiio lod with my walkman but the result is no so god, contrary to what I aspecting the Gnote is a little bit enjoable connect to an amp respect to the Z.
At this point I have a question :
Have the Z a real line out??????????
I am a bit disappointed about the quality of line out of Z wk.
My headphone are an hd 650 and a sony ex 1000.
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Yeh the HP out on the Sony Z was really rather good...a more warm sound sig compared to the line out which I thought had a little more detail but I preferred the HP out! 

post #29 of 30
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by elfary View Post

The S3 headphone out is underwhelming in my book.

 

Just another proof that the brand of dac is not as important as the implementation. The birth and long life of the Wolfson myth is really curious.
 

 

I agree with you.. implementation is the bigger factor here. But still, it is one of the more impressive outputs i've ever heard from a phone.

post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by nonsupremous View Post

Has anyone on this thread heard the samsung galaxy wifi 4.0 or 4.2?  Wondering how that compares. 

I've got the Galaxy Player 4.0. Not sure if the internals are EXACTLY the same as the wifi 4.0 in the US but are likely to. Haven't heard the S3, only to my S2 to compare. As far as I know the galaxy Player 4.0 has the same chipset as the original Galaxy S; it is pretty good, but not spectacular. Loud enough to even drive some 50-64 Ohm impedance headphones to comfortable levels. It sounds considerably better than the iPod touch 3G using power amp (the default player doesn't sound bad but just average with some harsh highs here and there). If the S2's amp is really weak in comparison. Tiny sound that needs to go all the way up to drive ear buds (don't even consider cans). The SQ is not bad, but it's tiny!

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