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post #16 of 26
6/3/12 at 6:20am
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narrowing the field further (as you have to do!)

 

It seems to be between the Fischer Audio DBA mk II's and the J-Phonic K2 DSP's.

 

From what I've been reading, these both seem to offer pretty much what I'm after at a decent price.

 

Question though; how on earth do I get hold of J-Phonics? The Sensaphonics site doesn't seem to work based on the links I've clicked.

 

re the Sony's mentioned; great though they presumably are, I have a feeling they're not aimed at the "pro" market really... remember, I don't need a "great" sound, I need an "honest" sound;

I'm mostly mixing and evaluating my own multitacks rather than listening for pleasure.

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post #17 of 26
6/3/12 at 6:43am
I have original DBA-02s and they are false sounding through treble peak and lack of bass. They do have great clarity an speed though.

J-Phonics are only their japenese site and I am not sure if they ship worldwide. Best bet is second hand.

Sony EX are aimed at pro market, the 7550 especially which is confirmed by their poor packaging compared to 1000 and 600. However they are still their pro earphones compared to the XBA series which is consumer targeted.
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post #18 of 26
6/3/12 at 8:07am

You would need to use a Japanese proxy in order to get a hold of them, that or second hand.  :D

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post #19 of 26
6/3/12 at 8:16am
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so, probably looking like my list is down to the DBA mk II's (given that I really haven't the time to go through the process of finding the J-phonics...)

 

Plus, they're cheaper!

 

Is there anything else to compete with the DBA's at around this price that I should be looking at?

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post #20 of 26
6/3/12 at 8:24am
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Originally Posted by coosticks View Post

so, probably looking like my list is down to the DBA mk II's (given that I really haven't the time to go through the process of finding the J-phonics...)

 

Plus, they're cheaper!

 

Is there anything else to compete with the DBA's at around this price that I should be looking at?

 

There is a Brainwavz B2 on the market in the for sale forum in Head-Fi, unopened.

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post #21 of 26
6/3/12 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Anything above 100 ohms will need and amp.
Also I really think you should check out Sonys.

Impedance doesn't always mean you need an amp or not. Sensitivity also has a huge factor and also the natural reaction to electric current in IEMs play a major role as well. A perfect example is the AKG Q701s. They do not exceed 100 ohms, but they need quite a bit of juice. Another example are my Sennheiser HD-25-1. They are 75 ohms, but they sound good with just my iPhone.
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post #22 of 26
6/3/12 at 11:47am
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Impedance doesn't always mean you need an amp or not. Sensitivity also has a huge factor and also the natural reaction to electric current in IEMs play a major role as well. A perfect example is the AKG Q701s. They do not exceed 100 ohms, but they need quite a bit of juice. Another example are my Sennheiser HD-25-1. They are 75 ohms, but they sound good with just my iPhone.

Yeh i know but its a rough guide to use. You will not find many Headphones and IEMs especially that have more than 100 ohms impedance and do not really need and amp to go.

 

Also sensitivity is a huge part and their are anomalies, my EX1000s need so much more juice than every other IEM i own while they  have these specs:

 

 

Which says nothing as they are harder to drive than that.

Sensitivity (dB/mW)

108

Magnet

Neodymium

Impedance (Ohm)

32
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post #23 of 26
6/3/12 at 12:00pm
Then for his uses, no more EX1000s! But if versatility is such an issue, why not buy a small portable Amp or DAC? Fiio E7, E17, Nuforce uDac-2? That way the RE272s, ER-4S, and the EX1000 can really outperform a lot of lower Impedance IEMs. Trust me, an amped EX1000 and ER-4S sounds killer
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post #24 of 26
6/3/12 at 12:09pm

Oh do you also find the need for a bit more empower with the EX1000s. They still sound great from my Cowon, just have to go from 20/40 to about 28-32/40 and they actually synergies even better from my iPhone but need 75% instead of 50% as usual. That being said pairing with my O2 amp (have not tried cMoy) makes them yet another league and same applies for a resistor and my Ety HF5.

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post #25 of 26
6/3/12 at 12:31pm
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I'm not going to be carrying anything else (i.e amp)

 

I already cart about laptop, midi keyboard and 3 drives all of which come out on the train etc for work.

 

on a completely side issue (although related to not wanting to plug anything else in), if anyone wants my almost unused Digizoid Zo 2 let me know.

 

doesn't do anything out of a laptop is all I know!

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post #26 of 26
6/3/12 at 2:58pm
I usually find that Amping IEMs and HPs, regardless if they "need" amping or not, is always an improvement. I just find the current to be more stable and cleaner. Also significant improvement across the entire sound sectrum (usually). I admit, some IEMs really don't need amping at all, but even if you amp them, there are subtle improvements.
Edited by planx - 6/3/12 at 3:20pm
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