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post #811 of 823

I decided to go with the Beyerdynamic 990's in 32 ohm. I'll have them in about a week.

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The 990's just came in and they're... Different. Much more different than I was expecting. I've had them for about an hour and a half now and I'm just listing some immediate differences that I picked up.

990 Soundstage has more nuance. More room for the instruments and more depth. The depth in particular is really sweet.

Bass is, well, it feels completely different. Emphasis on the word feel. I feel more of a bass punch with the DT990's than I ever did with the Amperiors. I liked how the subbass was represented in the Amperiors, actually I loved how they were represented in the Amps. The 990's subbass is subdued in comparison. It's there, but it's not really something that sticks out.

990's midrange is good so far. Nothing to really complain about or compliment.

Treble. I wish the 990's had some more treble. Cymbals, maracas, triangles and castanets could use a little more definition and presence for my tastes. Again, they're represented but they're much more subdued in comparison to the amperiors.

Vocals. Female vocalists sound absolutely amazing through the 990's. Just tear inducing. Male vocalists sound good as well, and spoken word sounds fairly good.

I'll give some more impressions as I get more acquainted with these cans.

PS: Jazz sounds incredibly good through the 990's.



 

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would you need a dac for these amperiors? would you get a better sound if you use a dac such as fiio e07k, i've asked this question before in another thread and people said that not really, only if sound sourse is noisy and that they sound more artificial with a dac. i will be listening to them with iphone and macbook mostly. cheers

post #814 of 823

It would depend on the DAC in your source. I'd imagine that a Macbook would have a very nice DAC. I use a Fiio E18 with the Amperior.

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Originally Posted by myemaildw View Post
 

would you need a dac for these amperiors? would you get a better sound if you use a dac such as fiio e07k, i've asked this question before in another thread and people said that not really, only if sound sourse is noisy and that they sound more artificial with a dac. i will be listening to them with iphone and macbook mostly. cheers

you have gotten some really strange advice.  "only if noisy and sounding more artificial with a dac" is ridiculous.  A dac is part of your source and is used simply to convert digital bits to an analog signal that a simple gain circuit in your source then amplifies and sends to your headphone to reproduce.  While there are quality differences in dacs, the quality of the source file you are playing, the player software and the gain circuit (amplification stage if used) can alter the flavor of the sound you hear with your headphones.

 

In my experience, the iphone has a pretty darn good dac and the amperiors sound very good with the amplification built into the iphone with good lossless files as your program material.  Can it be improved, yes, but at a fairly steep cost relative to what you have now; and many folks may not notice the difference depending on file and environment.

 

As for the Macbook, I owned one years ago, the white one and the headphone out was not that great.  It may be better now.  Not bad then, but not nearly as good as the iphone.

 

hope that helps you understand the role of thee dac a bit more clearly.

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you have gotten some really strange advice.  "only if noisy and sounding more artificial with a dac" is ridiculous.  A dac is part of your source and is used simply to convert digital bits to an analog signal that a simple gain circuit in your source then amplifies and sends to your headphone to reproduce.  While there are quality differences in dacs, the quality of the source file you are playing, the player software and the gain circuit (amplification stage if used) can alter the flavor of the sound you hear with your headphones.

 

In my experience, the iphone has a pretty darn good dac and the amperiors sound very good with the amplification built into the iphone with good lossless files as your program material.  Can it be improved, yes, but at a fairly steep cost relative to what you have now; and many folks may not notice the difference depending on file and environment.

 

As for the Macbook, I owned one years ago, the white one and the headphone out was not that great.  It may be better now.  Not bad then, but not nearly as good as the iphone.

 

hope that helps you understand the role of thee dac a bit more clearly.


ye will i don't know if quality of dac on my macbook is worse than external dacs. the only i can say that iphone 3gs i have plays with more bass, than my macbook. i have macbook late 2009 white unibody, not sure if that would be of any difference. i will probably get fiio e6 for hardware bass eq, other than that i've no idea if i need an external dac

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ye will i don't know if quality of dac on my macbook is worse than external dacs. the only i can say that iphone 3gs i have plays with more bass, than my macbook. i have macbook late 2009 white unibody, not sure if that would be of any difference. i will probably get fiio e6 for hardware bass eq, other than that i've no idea if i need an external dac

I honestly agree with above. You really dont need to worry about that with the amperiors. They are meant to run straight off your ipod/iphone or smartphone, it does nt need much power. A better dac will help probably but not as much as you think, especially if your using them for portable purposes the little differences are probably not going to be audible considering the background noises. You'll be fine
post #818 of 823

thanks, they are still in the post. so i haven't even heard them

post #819 of 823

got amperiors today, here is what i think unboxing and initial impressions. i'll make more videos on them after a while of listening to them.
unboxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYlD3DmEISE
initial impressions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0s-T7405Ls

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also they hold up to eq very nicely. i can make them sound like beats headphones with eq and sound is much nicer. simply adjust low and high frequencies slightly and they will have the same bass as beats headphones. with nice bass, and can taking away if i don't need it. sound is very good. but my right ear hurts so i don't think i will be listening to them for a while until my ear heals. :)


Edited by myemaildw - 11/13/14 at 2:39am
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Originally Posted by myemaildw View Post
 

also they hold up to eq very nicely. i can make them sound like beats headphones with eq and sound is much nicer. simply adjust low and high frequencies slightly and they will have the same bass as beats headphones. with nice bass, and can taking away if i don't need it. sound is very good. but my right ear hurts so i don't think i will be listening to them for a while until my ear heals. :)

which beats headphones are you referring to? not a beats hater (i really like their 2nd generation headphones) (i'm just curious)

 

any chance you could screenshot your eq setting? i'm curious what you did =0

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which beats headphones are you referring to? not a beats hater (i really like their 2nd generation headphones) (i'm just curious)

 

any chance you could screenshot your eq setting? i'm curious what you did =0

 

hey ye, just to clarify not all eq are the same. different applications with eq have different eq options and eq differently. and quite frankly in general i do not like software eq, except for vox eq, that one eq's very good on the mac. i do not know if it eq the same on windows. ye so itunes eq is not very good in my opinion, distorts sound a lot and not real time sound feedback when adjusting sliders, about one second delay in each sliding of eq sliders. boom is pretty good but it does have it's own quirks. i mainly use it on my macbook to increase sound volume when some youtube videos are just too quiet so i can increase volume. as for eq boom the bass is too boomy, it even continues make boomy sound to a half a second after you stop playing music, pause song, it's very audible if bass is adjusted ie the last two, three sliders on the left which are lower frequencies as you know i'm sure. the higher frequencies seem fine on boom app on mac. none the less all eq apps on all apps vary and they do not eq the same way. now that out of the way and clarified, i am reffering to vox app on mac. the eq is pretty good. i will attach screenshot of the vox eq i have. and to beats headphones, i refer to beats solo 2 headphones. from memory at least with eq on vox the sound is either the same, or comparable or just as good or better with enough bass for me. but anyway the sound is just as bassy may be not identical in direct comparison. but it is beats like sound, and i don't think there are any audible distortions.

 

now the best bass boost that i've heard are on my sony cd walkman d-ej000 which cost me something like 20 euro when i bought it. i assume it is a hardware bass eq. this is why i am looking into fiio e6 for a bass boost although i do not have it and i cannot say if it is as good as sony cd walkman or better or not worth spending money on. and i do not know if fiio e6 has two bass options. and i don't really understand why there are no bass buttons on ipods and iphones. steve jobs omited very important option in their ipods, iphones. the eq apps on iphone are just as useless as on mac apps, distorts a lot, and as i understand software eq is just not able to give good bass. if my sony cd walkman played mp3s on a cd or dvd then i would just listen with it as a main media player. but this sony cd walkman only plays cd’s in cd format. and i wish i could feed any music from my computer to my cd player for it to bass boost but there are no options for that on my sony cd walkman, and it goes through batteries very fast, so kind of need a 5v adapter thingy.

 

anyway to anser your question it is on vox app on mac, there is screenshot of eq 

it does not have exact digits of how slider is set but kind of slide it manually and it will be like that. just to repeat this eq won't sound the same or as good on other eq apps, only on vox it sounds good, on other apps it distorts, on vox its best eq sound. anyone has fiio e6, does it make bass as good as on cd walkman players? thanks

 

just to clarify the 512 and 1k is lightly elevated to compensate for headphones recessed mids.

 

also if you are on a mac you would want to go to audio midi setup app and set output to highest quality, highest hz and highest bitrate, it’s very buggy and resets to default on my mac. sometimes the speakers on macbook stop working when pluging in and out headphones from macbook, and sometimes one channel on headphones gets lower sound or get muted. needs restart to fix it.

also now i only see 192000.0 hz with 2ch-32 bit integer being stuck and grayed out, whereas before the highest was 96000.0 hz and could choose bit rate. but still resets to default 41100.0 hz, have to reopen and set again. buggy, may be it is better on more rescent macs.

 

i had beats pro headphones for a few months so i pretty much know how beats supposed to sound. and this eq is much like beats but a lot smoother and more enjoyable almost or is like beats solo 2 or better. direct comparison needed, required which i don’t have. and i still have beats tour for microphone mainly. the aperior microphone is pointless being hanging below the chest and not next to mouth where is should be for phone calls. and that pen clip does not help either.

may be needs a shorter cable recabling with shorter cable and i don't know if there is such a cable. anyway hope that helps. cheers.


Edited by myemaildw - Yesterday at 3:07 am
post #823 of 823
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Originally Posted by myemaildw View Post
 

 

hey ye, just to clarify not all eq are the same. different applications with eq have different eq options and eq differently. and quite frankly in general i do not like software eq, except for vox eq, that one eq's very good on the mac. i do not know if it eq the same on windows. ye so itunes eq is not very good in my opinion, distorts sound a lot and not real time sound feedback when adjusting sliders, about one second delay in each sliding of eq sliders. boom is pretty good but it does have it's own quirks. i mainly use it on my macbook to increase sound volume when some youtube videos are just too quiet so i can increase volume. as for eq boom the bass is too boomy, it even continues make boomy sound to a half a second after you stop playing music, pause song, it's very audible if bass is adjusted ie the last two, three sliders on the left which are lower frequencies as you know i'm sure. the higher frequencies seem fine on boom app on mac. none the less all eq apps on all apps vary and they do not eq the same way. now that out of the way and clarified, i am reffering to vox app on mac. the eq is pretty good. i will attach screenshot of the vox eq i have. and to beats headphones, i refer to beats solo 2 headphones. from memory at least with eq on vox the sound is either the same, or comparable or just as good or better with enough bass for me. but anyway the sound is just as bassy may be not identical in direct comparison. but it is beats like sound, and i don't think there are any audible distortions.

 

now the best bass boost that i've heard are on my sony cd walkman d-ej000 which cost me something like 20 euro when i bought it. i assume it is a hardware bass eq. this is why i am looking into fiio e6 for a bass boost although i do not have it and i cannot say if it is as good as sony cd walkman or better or not worth spending money on. and i do not know if fiio e6 has two bass options. and i don't really understand why there are no bass buttons on ipods and iphones. steve jobs omited very important option in their ipods, iphones. the eq apps on iphone are just as useless as on mac apps, distorts a lot, and as i understand software eq is just not able to give good bass. if my sony cd walkman played mp3s on a cd or dvd then i would just listen with it as a main media player. but this sony cd walkman only plays cd’s in cd format. and i wish i could feed any music from my computer to my cd player for it to bass boost but there are no options for that on my sony cd walkman, and it goes through batteries very fast, so kind of need a 5v adapter thingy.

 

anyway to anser your question it is on vox app on mac, there is screenshot of eq 

it does not have exact digits of how slider is set but kind of slide it manually and it will be like that. just to repeat this eq won't sound the same or as good on other eq apps, only on vox it sounds good, on other apps it distorts, on vox its best eq sound. anyone has fiio e6, does it make bass as good as on cd walkman players? thanks

 

just to clarify the 512 and 1k is lightly elevated to compensate for headphones recessed mids.

 

also if you are on a mac you would want to go to audio midi setup app and set output to highest quality, highest hz and highest bitrate, it’s very buggy and resets to default on my mac. sometimes the speakers on macbook stop working when pluging in and out headphones from macbook, and sometimes one channel on headphones gets lower sound or get muted. needs restart to fix it.

also now i only see 192000.0 hz with 2ch-32 bit integer being stuck and grayed out, whereas before the highest was 96000.0 hz and could choose bit rate. but still resets to default 41100.0 hz, have to reopen and set again. buggy, may be it is better on more rescent macs.

 

i had beats pro headphones for a few months so i pretty much know how beats supposed to sound. and this eq is much like beats but a lot smoother and more enjoyable almost or is like beats solo 2 or better. direct comparison needed, required which i don’t have. and i still have beats tour for microphone mainly. the aperior microphone is pointless being hanging below the chest and not next to mouth where is should be for phone calls. and that pen clip does not help either.

may be needs a shorter cable recabling with shorter cable and i don't know if there is such a cable. anyway hope that helps. cheers.

 

yup i don't use eq but yes i agree they all sound very different much like how different hoeadphones sound. 

 

In regards to the fiio e6, i think its a cheap thing to try. is it going to be a revelation? not really... i've owned it for over 8 months and used it daily using my ipod touch with the line out.

 

it does colour the sound, if you want more bass and more warmth i think its nice gear to have.

 

it made my almost transparent re400, more warm and bassy for my commute, which i think was a nice added plus because the low end was a bit light for me. 

 

i used them with no eq (even with no eq it does warm up the sound)

 

and the blue eq (which bumps the treble and bass) which made for a fun experience. the bass has nice impact, but it wasn't natural sounding. the treble bump was more of a lower treble emphasis (to give a bit more energy)

 

i think its a decent addition to the amperiors (which i think are only a mildly v shape) the treble is definitely forward and same with the bass (but in terms of impact and amount) i think their fairly balanced overall. 

 

thanks for you post, i hope you enjoy those amperiors and the fiio e6

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