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post #961 of 7101
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post
 

 

That's what I did.  ~$27 with a Neutrik.  It's a bit thin but I haven't had any problems with it yet.

 

Put a sheath over it and it'd be like a mini HD 700 cable.


I'm not totally convinced it's not the  HD212 or at least the $12 HD650 cable under that sheath! :rolleyes:

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Feels like a 650 to me. 600 is thinner and the 212 is even thinner still.
post #963 of 7101
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Feels like a 650 to me. 600 is thinner and the 212 is even thinner still.


Good to know, in which case I may order one of these.

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At least half the work is done.:smile:

post #964 of 7101
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Good to know, in which case I may order one of these.

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At least half the work is done.:smile:

I ordered one of these for about $35 a couple weeks ago, same seller as what you seem to be interested in. Seems as though what I got was the higher quality offering of theirs. I won in on auction though, as they have it for buyitnow for $90-100 (different lengths).

 

Here it is again on another auction, ending soon! http://www.ebay.com/itm/6FT-NEW-Replacement-Audio-upgrade-Cable-For-Sennheiser-HD700-HD-700-Headphone-2m-/281235429740?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item417af0196c

 

Try to snag on for ~$30-40 like I got lucky enough to do!

The cable is still stiffer than I like (due to the sheathing I suppose), but more flexible than the OEM Senn. The individual lines to each earcup are also stiff, and produce an audible metal scraping sound when the rub against my shirt/jacket zipper, or along my collar of dress shirt. Microphonics I think it is called. Because of the woven design, things that catch/scrape along that design make a noise, and it feeds up to the headphone. It is definitely louder when hearing it with the headphone being worn (not plugged in, just scraping it to compare) than with them off and scraping them along the desk's edge.


With that in mind, you may just be happier with the ebay cable you originally posted. That looks like a solid tubular plastic sleeve instead of individual wire sleeves woven together.

post #965 of 7101

So I just wanted to share the result of a headphone case I bought for my HD700s.

 

Link on Amazon for $29.99

Slappa Full Sized HardBody PRO Headphone Case (SL-HP-07)

 

Fits the HD700 about as perfect as a universal case could. I'm rather amazed. The headband area is about twice as tall/deep as the HD700 headband, so when shaken you will notice the headband moving around. But the earpieces themselves aren't going anywhere. I snapped a few pics, and recommend these to anyone wanting something reasonable priced, protective, and still portable and plain enough to blend in to your workbag, etc. Something that won't draw attention to what you are bringing in/out of the office every day with you.

 

Note: I will likely put my cable in a bag or something, as there is PLENTY of room for it to slide around in there. Bad luck could result in that tip damaging some mighty expensive "electronic stuff" as my wife generalizes most of my purchases. :)

 

Note: Picture 2 was not closed all the way for the reason of giving you a side shot on the width of the headphones vs the width of the case. The case does in fact close completely and zip, with no force or anything. Just a snug, reassuring fit.

post #966 of 7101

^^ The HD700's design is phenomenal.  It's not possible to put the HD6X0 (when the cable is plugged) to that case. 

post #967 of 7101

I recently got the HD800. I refrained from making any comparisons until now to give myself an adequate time with them. Had them for about a week now and at least 40 hours of head time. I used to have the HD700, and owned them for about 4 months before selling them. While I have no major gripes against the HD700 other the price I paid for them at the time ($1000, but that's more my own fault), I'm wondering, other than price, why some of you prefer the HD700 over the HD800. I guess I could not make a direct comparison with the HD700, as I didn't have the Quickie at the time, so the chain is different, and I've found the Quickie to really pull weight and improve upon the sound of the HD800, and be a significant improvement over HD800 + Crack alone. See my current chain in my sig. I was using the WA7 with HD700 mostly, as I slightly preferred the HD700 sound out of that over the Crack. I have sold my WA7 as well since I didn't have the HD700 anymore. For the context of this post, I will be talking about HD700 paired with WA7 when describing the HD700 sound, as it's the best sounding setup I experienced with the HD700. I will be comparing with setups mentioned in my sig.

 

At the time, the reason I bought the HD700 was because I read a lot about the difficult in finding a good amp pairing for the HD800, and also many people described the sound of the HD800 to be too analytical and sterile sounding. It was also said the HD800 was fatiguing to use for a long listening session. As a budding audiophile at the time and coming from HD598, I didn't even own an amp or DAC, so I chose the HD700 and got an O2/ODAC as well. I went on to WA7 and Crack before selling the HD700.

 

However, I've found none of this to be true. And my current amp setup for the HD800 is only around $400. I found myself getting almost exclusive head time to the HD800 this week, even over HE-500, when I should be spending the time comparing the two more. I've been losing sleep as I've been going to bed past 4AM for 5 nights in a row now because I just can't take these things off! I've progressed through many headphones in my journey (HD700, T90, HE-500, ESP950), but none have had this much addiction. The HE-500 was the closest, as I may have stayed up that late a night or two (I think only 3:30AM though). All the knocks against the HD800, I have not experienced yet. I can keep them on for hours, and I've found them to be quite musical and engaging with my chain, and I predominately listen to rock/pop music, which is supposedly a weakness for the HD800.

 

While I know sound is a very subjective thing, anyone with experience with both the HD700 and HD800, could you explain what you personally found better on the HD700? Because, from memory, I cannot think of anything the HD700 does better than the HD800, other than the amount of hurt your wallet takes. Actually for me, I paid less for the HD800 than HD700. I sold the HD700 because I found the HE-500 to do everything the HD700 did, but better. I think compared to the T90, the HD700 did bass and soundstaging better, but the HE-500 was better in bass, and also soundstaging after adding the Quickie to my chain. The soundstage of the HD800 is obviously better than the HD700, and the bass is at least about the same, but if I want bass, I'll switch to my HE-500. Other than the current price at the time, my only gripe against the HD700 would be its slight veiling and graininess compared to other headphones like T90, HE-500, and HD800. The ESP950 also has a transparency problem as well, probably worse than HD700, if memory serves.

 

So why do you prefer the HD700 over HD800?

post #968 of 7101

In overall the HD800s are better phones but almost three times more expensive than the HD700s.

 

IMHO, other than the price tag the advantages of the HD700s over the HD800s could be:

 

   1) Punchier bass

   2) PRaT factor

   3) Easier to drive 

post #969 of 7101
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

In overall the HD800s are better phones but almost three times more expensive than the HD700s.

 

IMHO, other than the price tag the advantages of the HD700s over the HD800s could be:

 

   1) Punchier bass

   2) PRaT factor

   3) Easier to drive 


Bass maybe. I felt the HD700's strong point was its bass. Idk about PRat, I felt the veiling took away from that. As for easier to drive, that's likely true, but $400 for my amp setup for the HD800 is not that much. Of course caveat is DIY. Yeah I really got burned buying the HD700 at the time for $1000 lol.

post #970 of 7101
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Bass maybe. I felt the HD700's strong point was its bass. Idk about PRat, I felt the veiling took away from that. As for easier to drive, that's likely true, but $400 for my amp setup for the HD800 is not that much. Of course caveat is DIY. Yeah I really got burned buying the HD700 at the time for $1000 lol.

 

Instead, you got a good deal on the HD800. ;)

post #971 of 7101
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Instead, you got a good deal on the HD800. ;)


Yeah I guess I broke even compared to buying both during the recent holiday pricing.

post #972 of 7101

Despite my own comments, if someone just asked me out of the blue "what is the best headphone" I would answer HD-800.  Yes, I haven't heard all the other top dogs out there, but to me it would be the most practical choice given the established brand, availability, etc...and the large number of folks out there who would seem to put it in the top two or three.

 

For me, coming from Q701, I was very nervous about falling in love with a few things that are extraordinary, like image detail and sense of midrange speed... and then suffering from things I know still mean a lot to me, like solid bass, seamless transition from upper bass to lower mids to mids etc... so I wanted something that reminded me of a well balanced speaker first and foremost, and to my ears that is exactly what the HD-700 gets right off the starting line.  For some, there is graininess and/or a treble spike, but for me it is organic and balanced with nice extension into the highs.  Once in a while, on some songs, I hear the validity in the criticisms, but rarely.

 

For me, the HD-800 just feels too big physically, and throws a soundstage that seems too big, too stretched out.  To be fair, that is probably just a personal bias of wanting to stay closer to what I feel is "normal" having come from the Q701, which to me started to sound more and more abnormal over time from a spatial perspective.  And as you mentioned, the equipment chain does play a role here, as the HD-800 never (not that many hours of auditioning I must confess...) gave me any hint of warmth, and that is an important quality to me.  I don't need to hear deep into a recording, to see the skeletal structure of every musician and instrument, I want to feel the flesh a bit and feel like we are in a comfortable room just hanging out and not in a lab getting scanned.  Weird descriptions I know, and very highly subjective meaning it is more about how I like to listen than anything else.  I guess for me, there is in fact a limit as to how much detail I really want at the end of the day.  Go figure.

 

I do think Senn made a mistake pricing the HD-700 at 1k, but I think they got everything else right.  It is the right size, it is a distinctly different sound from the HD-600/50 and the HD-800, it is a bit selective but not at all fussy, a distinctive design with a nice feel, and though it certainly doesn't win every bake off with every listener on every type of music, it hangs in there and puts up a credible fight every time.  And finally, for me, it is highly enjoyable on just about anything even though it may clearly not be optimal, hence my comfort in staying with a Dragonfly for a while rather than looking for a better DAC/amp solution anytime soon.  Even knowing I can go straight into a phone or laptop and be pretty happy was a big part of the decision process for me.  Ideally, I would love to have the HD-800 as well, and a couple of DAC/amp combos for different moods and pairings, but I am just not there yet and may never be due to finance and due to the need to keep life as simple as possible.  For some reason, the HD-700 just wins when the question I opened with is asked differently:  What would be your "deserted island pair of headphones, not knowing for sure what you could plug into?"  HD-700 no doubt about it.


Edited by Greggo - 1/5/14 at 2:46am
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And finally, for me, it is highly enjoyable on just about anything even though it may clearly not be optimal, hence my comfort in staying with a Dragonfly for a while rather than looking for a better DAC/amp solution anytime soon.  Even knowing I can go straight into a phone or laptop and be pretty happy was a big part of the decision process for me.  Ideally, I would love to have the HD-800 as well, and a couple of DAC/amp combos for different moods and pairings, but I am just not there yet and may never be due to finance and due to the need to keep life as simple as possible.  For some reason, the HD-700 just wins when the question I opened with is asked differently:  What would be your "deserted island pair of headphones, not knowing for sure what you could plug into?"  HD-700 no doubt about it.
What is your source/chain setup? I find the AQ DF needs an amp to get loud enough for me.
post #974 of 7101
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post
 

So why do you prefer the HD700 over HD800?

Having listened to the HD800s only a few times, but not with my system, they are intriguing phones and if I did not already have a fairly decent revealing stereo speaker set-up and was restricted to headphones only I may have given them more consideration and maybe still have added the HD700s.

I mentioned earlier “what I considered” were the shortcomings of the HD600 and AKG K700 series and I was looking for a phone that took the best of both, equalized the staging and maybe even threw in a bit of Grado crispness.

The HD700s as far as I can tell fit my needs to a “T” and are what I wanted, not overly revealing but retaining all the characteristics of what I expect from my speaker set-up, rightness and richness of tone, pin point imaging,  proportionate staging and depth with a hearty bass but…… in a headphone that I can stretch out with on the sofa with a cold Guinness after a hard days work and chill out. ;) 


Edited by Rob80b - 1/5/14 at 8:34am
post #975 of 7101
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What is your source/chain setup? I find the AQ DF needs an amp to get loud enough for me.

MacBook Pro > Dragonfly 1.2 > HD-700  ...  I can turn the volume to full for kicks, but never leave it there for more than about 10 or 20 seconds.  I usually just use the rough volume control driven by function keys, and keep it between 4-6 notches below full volume.  I also use a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 home studio interface and a Peachtree Nova 125 when watching movies on my TV, but both are noticeably less performant than the Dragonfly.  I do think I would enjoy a stronger amp, especially if that came with a tad bit of bass slam and warmth across the board thrown in, but not enough to open up my wallet anytime soon, especially since my two other main cans at the moment are the ATH-ESW9 and M-100, and I feel that both of them are absolutely perfect match with the Dragonfly IMHO.  Yes, the HD-700 undoubtedly scales better, but will still show you the goods.  I will admit that if Audio Technica ever made the ESW9 sound in a physical form like the B&O H6, I think it would be the perfect headphone for me as I really dig the sound of that can but it takes so long to get used to the fit and even then it is hard to keep on after 30-40 minutes....but I digress.

 

Not sure when, but right now I am thinking of eventually building a Crack/Speedball with my son, running the Dragonfly into that for a while, and then eventually doing something like an Oppo HA-1 or a Geek Pulse if they end up turning out real nice, or some other really good all in one, and then keep the Crack hooked up to that as an option just for the HD-700 and use the Dragonfly just as a portable alternative.


Edited by Greggo - 1/5/14 at 9:04am
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