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Ok, now that they're 650 they have to be one of the best values out there, right!?  I'm just praying that my wife buys me a pair for Christmas....there's always hope.  But seriously, I've enjoyed my hd580's since 2006 and I'm ready for a fun upgrade.  Hope they pair well with my Burson Soloist.  Cheers!

 

IMO they're barely competitive even at $650. Just shows how much out of whack the $1000 release price was.

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The HD700s are definitely the best value headphones in the market now. 

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IMO they're barely competitive even at $650. Just shows how much out of whack the $1000 release price was.

According to Judehttp://www.head-fi.org/t/589738/sennheiser-hd-700-officially-unveiled-at-ces-2012, they were pretty great even at their original 1000 asking price.  He's got some major experience ....what's your take - what are you listening for, what kind of music do you listen to, please describe instead of just saying blanket statements.


Edited by Bigglesworth - 12/9/13 at 5:11pm
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The HD700s are definitely the best value headphones in the market now. 

 

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According to Jude, they were pretty great even at their original 1000 asking price.  He's got some major experience ....what's your take - what are you listening for, what kind of music do you listen to, please describe instead of just saying blanket statements.

 

 

Depends much on what your priorities are.

 

The HD700s are technically no better than some mid-fi headphones. Detail & Resolution are good but not great. The biggest flaw is obviously its spiky treble. People in this thread downplay this a lot.

I only like bright headphones - like the K701, HE-500, T1, DT990 that have all been criticized for being sibilant. I never really found them sibilant. But the HD700 makes my ears bleed. The two months I had the HD700 I developed a bad case of acute titinus. Maybe I listen to a lot of treble-heavy music, but that's not the point. Headphones shouldn't cause physical pain.

 

If you can't hear the treble, then good for you. But people in this thread have to realize that they are the minority.  Thus making such an objective statement as "it's the best value" is very misleading to anyone looking to buy the HD700.

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It depends where is your tolerance.
Reading all bad comments about treble on these,I expected much more troubles, actually I have no problem at all (HRT microstreamer + 02)
It's very Amp dependent. As much as it seems like it requires only 150 ohms, I found that it needs some solid power behind it to sound it's best. I use a Naim Dac v1 with it and it really tames it's peak while adding a musical quality to it.

Remains the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn.
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Originally Posted by Bigglesworth View Post
 

Ok, now that they're 650 they have to be one of the best values out there, right!?  I'm just praying that my wife buys me a pair for Christmas....there's always hope.  But seriously, I've enjoyed my hd580's since 2006 and I'm ready for a fun upgrade.  Hope they pair well with my Burson Soloist.  Cheers!


Make that $549, just send her an anonymous link to Razordog's web site and the discount code "RAZORDOG100"  and she'll save save save.;)

 

I wasn't actually looking for a bargain as I was just recently getting back into headphones, although I've worn heaphones more often than not recently for music and movies.

But going over multiple reviews of all the current top models I kept coming back to the HD700s to add to my current roster, which include the AKG k701s/501s, Senn  HD580s(w/600 grills and balanced cable and my Grado SR325is.

It was just this weekend that I made a decision to go for the 700's and it was just a coincident that I found them at the reduced price on line, here in Canada they're still listed at $1199, maybe negotiable but no where near the US pricing and the additional $100 off the $649 was just icing on the cake.

Interestingly enough when I bought my HD580s years ago they were priced at $549 here in Canada, I was about to get them for cost as a reseller at $349 but got them from Audioadvisor on sale at $100 after a $50 rebate.

Just good timing I guess.

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Depends much on what your priorities are.

 

The HD700s are technically no better than some mid-fi headphones. Detail & Resolution are good but not great. The biggest flaw is obviously its spiky treble. People in this thread downplay this a lot.

I only like bright headphones - like the K701, HE-500, T1, DT990 that have all been criticized for being sibilant. I never really found them sibilant. But the HD700 makes my ears bleed. The two months I had the HD700 I developed a bad case of acute titinus. Maybe I listen to a lot of treble-heavy music, but that's not the point. Headphones shouldn't cause physical pain.

 

If you can't hear the treble, then good for you. But people in this thread have to realize that they are the minority.  Thus making such an objective statement as "it's the best value" is very misleading to anyone looking to buy the HD700.

 

I do hear the trebles but I think you had a defected phones. Enjoy of your K701.

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Originally Posted by Bigglesworth View Post
According to Judehttp://www.head-fi.org/t/589738/sennheiser-hd-700-officially-unveiled-at-ces-2012, they were pretty great even at their original 1000 asking price.  He's got some major experience ....what's your take - what are you listening for, what kind of music do you listen to, please describe instead of just saying blanket statements.

 

Yes, Jude has a lot of headphone experience, but you should be aware that he never writes or says anything negative about any headphones either. That sort of goes with someone in his position, as he deals with sponsors & vendors all the time. So you shouldn't take too much away from Jude's posts and/or videos, he's almost always enthusiastic about everything that he talks or writes about.

 

It's a better idea to get the opinions of average Head-Fiers who don't have any political interests, unlike Jude. (Sennheiser is a sponsor of Head-Fi as well.)

 

12/12 edit: wanted to correct myself and say that Jude does write negative points of gear from time to time, I'd just missed reading about those before. So my striked-out post should be disregarded since it has no factual basis. No slander against Jude was implied in my post either and "political" was clearly the wrong word for me to use too. Not really sure what point I meant to make there as I wasn't really thinking about that part when I wrote it.

 

I want to extend a serious honest apology to Jude for anyone who mis-read my post as slander, which was totally not intended, and I totally take the blame for writing such a spontaneously irresponsible post without really thinking about my wording either.


Edited by Asr - 12/12/13 at 3:12am
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I do hear the trebles but I think you had a defected phones. Enjoy of your K701.

 

Don't think so. It sounded exactly like most reviewers described them. And I'm not talking about general bright sound. The HD700's are not bright sounding over all. So one's experience with the HD700 is very much dependent on what kind of music listened to.

 

Even ignoring the treble spikes, they simple aren't much better than most mid-fi headphones. When I had the HD700 I had owned several mid-fi headphones side by side. K702 65th Anniversaries, HE-500, and the SRH1840. While the HD700 had its moments, I preferred the Annies and HE-500 in almost all cases to the HD700.

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Don't think so. It sounded exactly like most reviewers described them. And I'm not talking about general bright sound. The HD700's are not bright sounding over all. So one's experience with the HD700 is very much dependent on what kind of music listened to.

 

Even ignoring the treble spikes, they simple aren't much better than most mid-fi headphones. When I had the HD700 I had owned several mid-fi headphones side by side. K702 65th Anniversaries, HE-500, and the SRH1840. While the HD700 had its moments, I preferred the Annies and HE-500 in almost all cases to the HD700.

 

I think most of the bad reviews were based on the prototype phones. May I ask where did you buy your HD700? I know many of the prototypes are sold through ebay.  

 

I had one prototype and I know how their sound was.


Edited by pdrm360 - 12/9/13 at 5:48pm
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Bought from Amazon... and this past summer. This wasn't an early model.

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I found a same treble spike in the HD800. The HD800s are knockout headphones but the HD700s are just a little more relaxed, a bit smoother and more forgiven to the bad records.

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All interesting comments and opposing views and this appears to be the ongoing discussion from what I've been reading but l guess I'll just find out one-way or another once my pair arrives.

If they do sit somewhere between the 600 series and the HD800s then I’ll be happy, as for the so called spike or sibilance that could be an issue.

Never had a problem with my Grado SR325is or K701s sounding bright but ideally I’m looking for a phone that sounds like a hybrid K701/HD600, the HD700s may fit the bill but I won’t know till they're on my head with my set-up.

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All interesting comments and opposing views and this appears to be the ongoing discussion from what I've been reading but l guess I'll just find out one-way or another once my pair arrives.
If they do sit somewhere between the 600 series and the HD800s then I’ll be happy, as for the so called spike or sibilance that could be an issue.
Never had a problem with my Grado SR325is or K701s sounding bright but ideally I’m looking for a phone that sounds like a hybrid K701/HD600, the HD700s may fit the bill but I won’t know till they're on my head with my set-up.
The thing is everyone has different preferences and tolerances. Sound is a very subjective thing. What can't be debated though is supreme comfort - and I am sure the 700s will get loads of head time.

Enjoy your 700s!
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Never understood how the treble was piercing. It's nothing like the hot treble on the Beyerdynamic T90. Maybe my ears just happen to be dull to the exact frequency where these spike. Like viralcow said, detailing could be better. Also, while I've only driven them with O2, Crack, and WA7, I don't think these scale quite as well with amps as some other headphones in the same price range. Even with the the WA7, these still lacked the detail compared to say the HE-500. Even though around the same price range, I truly believe the HE-500 is in a league above the HD700, mainly due to the scalability of amping. When run through the Emotiva MiniX speaker amp, the HE-500 really shines, and pretty much bests the HD700 in all categories other than soundstage. Then I added a tube preamp to the Emotiva (Quickie), and the soundstage is better as well. The HD700 was my first expensive headphone purchase, and I bought it at $1000 at the time. For the $2000 I spent on the HD700 and WA7, the HE-500 + Emotiva + Quickie could be had for about half the price, and it's a good 50% better. Really as much of a difference as when I went from HD598 to HD700. For me, this combo bested even the HD800 driven through Crack. Of course I have no doubt the HD800 would easily win when paired correctly with a totl amp, but the Crack is a well regarded amp for the HD800, so that says a lot. I have since sold both the HD700 and WA7. I think at the new price of $650, it's a fair price. I view it on par with the T90 for example. The HE-500 just happens to be a steal, though only if you know how to drive them properly. Most people drive them with normal headphone amps, and it doesn't sound too special. For example, I would say the HD700, T90, and HE-500 are all in the same league when driven through the WA7. But the scalability of the HE-500 is what makes it in my mind a league above the HD700 or T90.

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