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post #421 of 2111

I'm still enjoying my HD700 with stock cable, it seems that every day it gets better and better, tough that may be the tube amp burning in. I'm thinking of squeezing every last drop of performance from them with an aftermarket cable. Any recommendations or is the stock cable good enough?
 

post #422 of 2111
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Originally Posted by m17xr2b View Post

I'm still enjoying my HD700 with stock cable, it seems that every day it gets better and better, tough that may be the tube amp burning in. I'm thinking of squeezing every last drop of performance from them with an aftermarket cable. Any recommendations or is the stock cable good enough?
 

I think the stock cable is good enough! Better save your money! wink.gif

post #423 of 2111

I too am enjoying the stock cable though I have found that DoubleHelix is advertising their Molecule OCC Headphone cable as being available for the HD700. Also I talked with Drew at Moon Audio and they will have ones in a few months.

post #424 of 2111
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Originally Posted by Mark-sf View Post

 I have found that DoubleHelix is advertising their Molecule OCC Headphone cable as being available for the HD700. 

 

Doublehelix Peter used my HD 700s to make his prototype.  He used his Molecule SE cable.  If for nothing else it makes for a much more user friendly cable.  I really don't like the way the stock cable twists up on itself like it does.

post #425 of 2111

After some listening to the HD700s and comparing them to the HE-6s (which I'm trying to take my time on getting a good handle on its capabilities, properties, merits and flaws, etc), the amount of detail retrieval is very obvious with the 700s. The HE-6s are a fairly detailed but much fuller sounding headphone, but its detail retrieval seems to be less than the Senns. Of course, most folks attribute a slightly harsh treble on the HE-6s for high detail but this is not the case here. 

 

Tracks used for this short audition were:

* Alison Kraus - Maybe

* Bill Evans Trio - My Foolish Heart

* Tron Soundtrack - The Game Has Changed

* Infected Mushroom - Never Mind

* John Coltrane - Blue Train (Remastered)

* Yes- Roundabout (Remastered)

 

Will post more detailed thoughts later on...

post #426 of 2111
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Originally Posted by twizzleraddict View Post

After some listening to the HD700s and comparing them to the HE-6s (which I'm trying to take my time on getting a good handle on its capabilities, properties, merits and flaws, etc), the amount of detail retrieval is very obvious with the 700s. The HE-6s are a fairly detailed but much fuller sounding headphone, but its detail retrieval seems to be less than the Senns. Of course, most folks attribute a slightly harsh treble on the HE-6s for high detail but this is not the case here. 

 

Tracks used for this short audition were:

* Alison Kraus - Maybe

* Bill Evans Trio - My Foolish Heart

* Tron Soundtrack - The Game Has Changed

* Infected Mushroom - Never Mind

* John Coltrane - Blue Train (Remastered)

* Yes- Roundabout (Remastered)

 

Will post more detailed thoughts later on...


very interesting indeed!

post #427 of 2111

Some more thoughts on the HE-6 (sorry to derail from the HD700 thread). There is definitely more layering to the mid-to-lower bass in the HD700s than the HE-6s. On Peter Gabriel's Red Rain (Remastered), this is immediately obvious. Where the HD700s sort of bother me is with its slight treble peakiness, which has been much written about before. I'm sure with a mod (like the Anax mod), this would be tamed to a certain degree.

 

There's a lot to like in the HD700s and it's not going anywhere for the time being... :D

post #428 of 2111

The HE-6 and H700 are also my two favourite cans and are surprisingly similar regarding SQ and overall signature. The HE6 is more natural and more realistic but more laidback than the HD700, which I enjoy with faster and more energetic music style. I found the HE-6 slightly more detailed though.

What amp are you using with your HE6?

post #429 of 2111
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What amp are you using with your HE6?

 

SPL Phonitor. I'm not sure if there's enough juice here for the HE-6 but they aren't as forward sounding as the HD700s with the same amp. Definitely correlates with the "laidback" impressions you have of the HE-6. The HE-6s aren't going to do energetic music well, like 80s rock. (I'm trying to listen to Police's Synchronicity and the HD700s are definitely the preferred headphone for this album.)

 

With Pink Martini though, the HE-6s are pretty intimate phones whereas there is too much treble energy going on with the HD700s on this album.


Edited by twizzleraddict - 3/4/13 at 11:04am
post #430 of 2111
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Originally Posted by twizzleraddict View Post

 I'm sure with a mod (like the Anax mod), this would be tamed to a certain degree.

 

I posted this Sept 12, 2012.  biggrin.gif

 

 

700

 

Indeed a subtle change, but I prefer it, as I do with my HD 800s.  Subtle, but noticeable enough to warrant doing it.  Not to mention how easy it is, so really no reason not to try it.

post #431 of 2111
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Originally Posted by twizzleraddict View Post

 

SPL Phonitor. I'm not sure if there's enough juice here for the HE-6 but they aren't as forward sounding as the HD700s with the same amp. Definitely correlates with the "laidback" impressions you have of the HE-6. The HE-6s aren't going to do energetic music well, like 80s rock. (I'm trying to listen to Police's Synchronicity and the HD700s are definitely the preferred headphone for this album.)

 

With Pink Martini though, the HE-6s are pretty intimate phones whereas there is too much treble energy going on with the HD700s on this album.

 

 

They excel in this.  Can the phonitor keep up is the question.  The HE-6 is a very fast headphone.

post #432 of 2111
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Originally Posted by twizzleraddict View Post

 

SPL Phonitor. I'm not sure if there's enough juice here for the HE-6 but they aren't as forward sounding as the HD700s with the same amp. Definitely correlates with the "laidback" impressions you have of the HE-6. The HE-6s aren't going to do energetic music well, like 80s rock. (I'm trying to listen to Police's Synchronicity and the HD700s are definitely the preferred headphone for this album.)

 

With Pink Martini though, the HE-6s are pretty intimate phones whereas there is too much treble energy going on with the HD700s on this album.

Yes, from what I understand and have read, the Phonitor is probably one of the least optimal choices for the HE-6, next to OTL tube amps.  The Phonitor, I believe, has a reasonable high working voltage and gain level, so volume may seem ok, but is primarily designed for headphone impedances over 120 ohms.  

 

Max power output increases as impedance increases, suggesting higher voltage gain with somewhat limited current. I'm honestly surprised your not hearing audible distortion at higher output levels.  The Phonitor may be under-rated from it's specs though.  I personally used an old 100wpc @ 8ohm A/V receiver speaker taps on the HE-6, which really brought it to life, even though I'm sure higher end speaker amps sound better.  

post #433 of 2111
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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post

Yes, from what I understand and have read, the Phonitor is probably one of the least optimal choices for the HE-6, next to OTL tube amps.  The Phonitor, I believe, has a reasonable high working voltage and gain level, so volume may seem ok, but is primarily designed for headphone impedances over 120 ohms.  

 

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

They excel in this.  Can the phonitor keep up is the question.  The HE-6 is a very fast headphone.

 

Yup. Have read all the posts on the sub-optimal pair of Phonitor with HE-6s and probably know (in the back of my mind) about the lack of synergy with this pairing. I'll likely have a standard amp in and connect the HE-6 to the speaker taps shortly. Orthos are an interesting comparison in that they don't react with the same characteristics as dynamic headphones so take mine with a grain of salt pls. I did want to drive both the HD700s and HE-6s with the same upstream equipment to do a more fairer comparison as the amp/source should have the same sonic signature, whereas the difference should be in how both headphones present it.

 

Still enjoying the HE-6s with intimate music on the Phonitors for some reason and they sort of do dubstep pretty OK. :D

post #434 of 2111
I've had my HD-700's for about a month and have generally been enjoying them very much. My only beef is with the mid-range spike, but I believe that can be tamed with the proper amp.
 
Right now I have the Lehmann Rhinelander, which is a brilliant amp. I used it with HD-650's, DT-880's and D2000's, and I was quite happy. I sold all those cans to buy the HD-700's, which are great with the Rhinelander at lower volumes. However, on some recordings, at my preferred listening volume, the piano in a jazz quartet recording, e.g., is so bright that it hurts my ears. 
 
My DAC is the Asus Xonar Essence ST (PCI version). I'm using stock op amps, but I *will* be rolling them sometime - after waiting nearly a month I got the envelope from China last week. 
 
I've read through much of this thread and found a variety of helpful and insightful info, but I don't believe there's any specific feedback on how the Little Dot series of amps pairs with HD-700's. 
 
If I didn't live in the UK and had more confidence in my DIY abilities, I'd have ordered a Bottlehead Crack already. Considering that my budget is about $200 (unless I sell the Rhinelander) unfortunately the Lry is out of range - especially when you factor in the cost of shipping it to the UK. While I visit family in the USA about once a year and *could* have an amp shipped there, would I really want to bring a tube amp on a plane as a carry-on? And I sure as hell wouldn't leave it with checked baggage!  
 
Thanks to everyone here who posts and shares their valuable knowledge. I'm more a musician than an audiophile, but folk like you on head-fi have been helping me narrow that gap.
post #435 of 2111

I guess that why its been so quiet here - we are all simply enjoying our HD700's biggrin.gif.  I have been listening to mine for about 10 days with the Practical Devices XM6 as both a DAC/Amp and as a standalone amp, and can say the pair makes wonderful music. Having had Stax Lamda's for years, I find the 700's to have the same clean attack and decay but far more dynamic range as well as an extended bass end. Maybe's its the range of music I listen to (don't care for rap, metal, compressed mixes, etc.) but I do not find anything to complain about regarding the upper treble.  The headphones have quite a balanced presentation similar to my large Dunlavy's which are exceptionally flat.  They also present a very natural soundstage which I can enhance a bit on some recordings with a bit of crossfeed care of the XM6. I find that I do not need the bass or treble boost, but I do use them occasionally for popular music versus classical or jazz. Of course given the driver placement and my history with Stax, this is the type of presentation I am used to. I am still awaiting my Asgaard2 to evaluate as as the driver for my main system feed.

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