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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

 

 

 

Won't.

 

Will for sure.

 

Have them running from my Meier Corda Opera. The treble is simply amazing. And that is a solid state amp and dac. The treble are on the harsh side with cheap portables like the Fiio E12 but for sure not with high class solid state. I am so glad I got this amp.

 

 

 

 

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Edited by pietcux - 4/1/15 at 1:29pm
post #3272 of 7149
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I'm interested in what the HD-700's sound like with the Meier stack?  A few months ago I was visiting my friend on the big island and heard his HE-560 out of a Meier daccord/corda classic and the sound didn't impress much compared to my HE-560 paired with my Project Ember (Telefunken tube) and Teac UD-301 DAC.  The HE-560 from my setup was so much more dynamic, bass going lower with body, highs extend and smooth, mids just right.  He came to visit last week and also noticed the difference so he was going to sell his Meier gear and get the same setup as me.

 

Since he is going to sell his Meier gear cheap ($300) I was wondering if it would go with the HD-700 or some of my other headphones?

 

I'll definitely let you know...it pairs amazingly well with Beyers and Audezes...this will be the first Sennheiser it gets a hold of

post #3273 of 7149
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Will for sure.

So you're saying when you pair the 700 with a different set up it COMPLETELY changes?

 

Funny, cause when I hook mine up to the Vali or Mjolnir or Sonnet, or my TV, computers or my iPods, it still sounds like a 700.

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I'll definitely let you know...it pairs amazingly well with Beyers and Audezes...this will be the first Sennheiser it gets a hold of


The Meier stack you have should even be better than my Opera, at least regarding the DAC part, so this will be interesting.

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So you're saying when you pair the 700 with a different set up it COMPLETELY changes?

 

Funny, cause when I hook mine up to the Vali or Mjolnir or Sonnet, or my TV, computers or my iPods, it still sounds like a 700.


It does not change completely, only the treble are no longer harsh. I absolutely like the HD700 sound signature. But with this special amp it became awsome.

post #3276 of 7149
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The Meier stack you have should even be better than my Opera, at least regarding the DAC part, so this will be interesting.

 

I'm really eager to see how it does...My LCD-X sounds pretty good out of a modest source (such as the AudioEngine D1), but comes much more alive on the Meier gear. Probably not many people feel this way about mid-fi gear like Jan's stuff, but it's my end game...it just does exactly what I want it to do. I know the HD800s are pretty picky about amp pairings, and I've only heard them on that Bryston amp. I'm going to fire things up here in a couple hours. 

 

The HD700s are super comfortable, just like their big brother...still a little cheesy with the build quality, but I dont see myself getting frustrated with these like I did the Amperiors. I like having these on my head...definitely on par with the T1s, which are the most comfortable headphones I own. 

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I do not consider Jan's stuff as MidFi, let me call it resonable priced like the stuff Schiit makes. Think about their top Amp Ragnarok and the new top DAC Yggdrasil. The price is a steal compared to the effort that they put inside. Same goes for Jan Meier. He is a one man band literally and his main profession is teaching at a University as far as I know. Let me direct you to his new development:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/507835/meier-audio-quickstep-also-stepdance-and-2stepdance-discussion-and-impressions-thread/2880

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No, it's the development of a new technique to strongly reduce IMD (intermodulation distortion) in amplification using opamps. I've build myself a headamp that allows to switch between conventional operation and this new technique. The sonic results are really promising.

 

He does it for himself first of all..... I especially love the phrase..I've build myself a headamp.... That's the spirit....

 

:popcorn: 


Edited by pietcux - 4/1/15 at 2:22pm
post #3278 of 7149
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post
 


It does not change completely, only the treble are no longer harsh. 

 

Ever wonder why?

post #3279 of 7149
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post
 

 

Ever wonder why?


What do you think?

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No?

 

I think the amp has some strong characteristics if it can make a 700 not sound like a 700 anymore.

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I think you're losing yourself in semantics.

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Two words: parametric equalizer. ^_^

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only the treble are no longer harsh

 

 

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I think you're losing yourself in semantics.

 

Oh?

 

Doesn't really matter to me, I bought mine when they first came out and paid $1000 for em and use them almost daily.

post #3284 of 7149
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post
 


I do not consider Jan's stuff as MidFi, let me call it resonable priced like the stuff Schiit makes. Think about their top Amp Ragnarok and the new top DAC Yggdrasil. The price is a steal compared to the effort that they put inside. Same goes for Jan Meier. He is a one man band literally and his main profession is teaching at a University as far as I know. Let me direct you to his new development:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/507835/meier-audio-quickstep-also-stepdance-and-2stepdance-discussion-and-impressions-thread/2880

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No, it's the development of a new technique to strongly reduce IMD (intermodulation distortion) in amplification using opamps. I've build myself a headamp that allows to switch between conventional operation and this new technique. The sonic results are really promising.

 

He does it for himself first of all..... I especially love the phrase..I've build myself a headamp.... That's the spirit....

 

:popcorn: 

 

Oh trust me, I am on record many times over touting Jan as a genius. I couldn't have more satisfaction being his customer if I tried...I just meant "mid-fi" as a function of price. In head-fi terms, Jan's gear wouldn't be considered Summit-fi, per se. I'm just not a huge believer that super expensive solid state amps sound terribly different from properly designed less expensive solid state amps. So for me, Jan basically has maxed out as much as I could want out of a SS amp. Especially with the T1s and the LCD-X...the pairing puts a smile on my face every single time. If I'm still into head-fi ten years from now, I'll either still own my Meier stack or I'll have whatever Jan's new products are at the time. 

 

That's really an interesting development...thanks for the link! 

 

As for the HD700s, these are definitely different than what I expected. I think they're a little further away from the 800s than I expected, as well. I'm also noticing a slight veil, which is very odd. It wasn't present on the 800s at all...those were supremely transparent. These are clearly a notch down. Overall my impressions are positive, though...still need to spend a lot more time with them to really get a feel. Really love the comfort...that's a huge plus. 


Edited by Focker - 4/1/15 at 3:04pm
post #3285 of 7149
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I would get the HD700 if its "much" cheaper than the HE-560 and EL8.  Just remember that the HD-700 is on the bright side so pair it with a warm amp (I use a Project Ember with Bugle Boy tube or Lyr2 with Mullards) to keep the highs from becoming harsh, also, the HD-700 is the most comfortable of the three.  I don't have much electronic music but do have some EDM/techno if that's considered the same. 

 

The HE-560 presents a more balanced/neutral sound than the HD-700 and works better for a wider range of music and is less sensitive to different amps. 

 

The EL8 that I have is open back and its a strange headphone in that it doesn't scale much, sound great out of my Galaxy S5 and Fiio X1 or X3.  It doesn't have highs like the HD-700 and HE-560 and its a little to mellow for dance/techno to me.

 

Prices for me are HD700-$600, EL-8-$1000, HE-560-$1250.

 

Problem is I don't have any warm amps to pair with HD700. Such a dilemma lol.

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