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post #1921 of 2110
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Originally Posted by mathi8vadhanan View Post
 

It's been 2 months and I think it's safe to say, these are my endgame full-size headphones.

 

Where did you get those fancy cables?

post #1922 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Zaarin View Post
 

Any recommendations for a $100ish amp for the HD 700 from a computer? I'll be mainly listening to electronic music. I saw a lot of WA3 recommendations but that is out of my budget for an amp.

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Originally Posted by Asr View Post
 

^ Schiit Magni?

 

Schiit Vali, FiiO E12

post #1923 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post

Where did you get those fancy cables?
The cables are from eBay. I believe the seller was 'sunricky'.
post #1924 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Kyno View Post
 

Thanks for your opinion Rob80b and Madmollusk!

 

You convinced me to give it a try :) I'll already be testing an HD-600 to compare it against the HD-650 this morning, will see how it goes.

 

Piercingly and painfully bright is perfectly how I would describe the T90 :D But I LOVED how clear it was and how much details I was getting coming from the HD-650. I only wish it had a slightly warmer sound, less sibilance/harshness, and indeed a little less (fatiguing) energy, so I may just like the HD-700...

 

Quoting myself like a boss :cool: 

 

I just tried the HD-600, and I like it!

 

The HD-650 had too much bass in my liking, moreover overwhelming the rest. I was afraid the HD-600 would be lacking some after reading a few comments, but it has plenty enough for me. The AKG K701 was a different story...

 

I will be testing out the HD-700 later this month, I'm now curious. The HD-600 is fine, but I definitely wouldn't mind more details and clarity. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much I'll like losing the warmth of the HD-6x0 series, we'll see.

post #1925 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Kyno View Post
 

 

Quoting myself like a boss :cool: 

 

I just tried the HD-600, and I like it!

 

The HD-650 had too much bass in my liking, moreover overwhelming the rest. I was afraid the HD-600 would be lacking some after reading a few comments, but it has plenty enough for me. The AKG K701 was a different story...

 

I will be testing out the HD-700 later this month, I'm now curious. The HD-600 is fine, but I definitely wouldn't mind more details and clarity. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much I'll like losing the warmth of the HD-6x0 series, we'll see.

 

If you don't mind more details and clarity, try the Beyer T1 or the HD800.  ;)

post #1926 of 2110
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

If you don't mind more details and clarity, try the Beyer T1 or the HD800.  ;)

Goes a tad over budget :D

 

(HD-700, 400 € < T1, 700 € < HD-800, 1050 €)

post #1927 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Kyno View Post
 

 

'The HD-650 had too much bass in my liking, moreover overwhelming the rest. I was afraid the HD-600 would be lacking some after reading a few comments, but it has plenty enough for me. The AKG K701 was a different story...

 

I will be testing out the HD-700 later this month, I'm now curious. The HD-600 is fine, but I definitely wouldn't mind more details and clarity. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much I'll like losing the warmth of the HD-6x0 series, we'll see."

 

Well I've had these HD 700 now for 3 days and have listened to them for 30 hrs + now. I have the HD 650 and old HD 560 Ovation II's. 560 are the most detailed thing I'd ever heard, and they are still more detailed than the 650's for that reason you mention. The 650 bass I don't think is to much, it's more like it gets in the way of the clarity some. So I consider the 560's basically what the 600's probably sound like least from what I read.

 

With the HD 700's I think I'm finding it like this....I go to open my mouth to speak about what's wrong with them and then nothing comes out, I'm finding a really hard time finding something to complain about with them. The bass isn't in the way ever I don't feel. And it does go lower than the 650's even. But it stays in check the entire time. I've listened to basically every track I have and the detail is there and certainly a very very nice bass presence is as well. It just really is hard to find a complaint.

 

I think that I understand some people's complaint with the highs a little. I don't find it bothersome, I find it detailed. There is something about them I just can't put my finger on. I think maybe it has something to do with openness of them, or wideness of the soundstage maybe. They are comfy like many say but there is still nothing more comfortable than my old HD 560 II's those things are amazing for comfort, heck and sound. They still really do stack up against today's newer top dogs. But certainly the HD 700 is way more balanced HP than any of the others I've heard.

 

It's all been said in here 100 times but these are damn nice headphones just very impressed with their entire range of great sound across the board. Finally something detailed that gets rid of the 650's every so slightly muddy bass presence. And don't get me wrong I mean very slight muddy, not like Senn Momentum's that were crazy bass all over the place. Those in 10 seconds I knew were not the HP's for me. That was just crazy nonsense if you ask me. Momentum's had nice high detail which I imagine the beats lack as they're probably just over bloated mess. But still Momentum's aren't where it's at for sure.

 

I am of course curious about the HD 800's supposed improved detail and what not. But the bass on HD 700 in perfect balance I don't know why anyone would give that up. I guess that's why so many have picked HD 700 over the 800's. Time will tell if I take that leap. Maybe if I sold my 700,650's I could get a pair of 800's.....will we every get to the end of the road...I won't be holding my breath, as we're all looking for that holy grail to our ears and that just ever so perfect balance.


Edited by hdtv00 - 8/8/14 at 11:19am
post #1928 of 2110
Thanks for the feedback, it surely makes me want to try the HD-700 even more :)

 

For the record, my only fear is having something too bright, I must have been traumatized by the T90 somehow :D I'll definitely come back here to give my impressions, but until I found a good offer on one new/used here, my HD-600 will surely do fine.

 

The HD-800 seems to be close to the HD-700 yet with significant differences. Harder to drive for once, and I did read a few comments saying it wasn't as pleasing as HD-700, although I probably read more of the opposite too.


Edited by Kyno - 8/8/14 at 11:49am
post #1929 of 2110
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Originally Posted by hdtv00 View Post
 

Well I've had these HD 700 now for 3 days and have listened to them for 30 hrs + now..............

 

I am of course curious about the HD 800's supposed improved detail and what not. But the bass on HD 700 in perfect balance I don't know why anyone would give that up. I guess that's why so many have picked HD 700 over the 800's. Time will tell if I take that leap. Maybe if I sold my 700,650's I could get a pair of 800's.....will we every get to the end of the road...I won't be holding my breath, as we're all looking for that holy grail to our ears and that just ever so perfect balance.

 

The HD800s are a technical wonder, and what’s funny is that I generally gravitate toward clear precise sound, my Dynaudio Special 25s speakers are the most revealing of their line-up and my Bryston electronics; head-amp, CD player and amps are known for their neutrality, but after 3 days of intense listening with the HD800s they just didn’t do it for me.

I was really hoping my initial couple impressions at my local supplier since they came out would change once hooked up to my own set-up with my music, but my decision for choosing the HD700s initially over the HD800s held fast.

Overall I found the HD800s to have an ever so slightly artificial flavor to them compared to the HD700s, which to my ears sound more grounded and natural, this was especially noticeable with violins on Gyorgy Ligeti’s “Chamber Concerto” on Deutsche Grammophon; there was also an oddity, for me, with the sound field, but that could only be a matter of getting used to.

In the end the HD700s drew me into the music, the HD800s did not.

 

Maybe if the HD700s had the touch and feel of the 800s it would justify their pricing and would receive less criticism, for me I’m very hard pressed to find any fault with the sound quality, no piercing, peeking gritty highs etc, and I continue to scratch my head for those who discover the contrary.

Like all things in life it comes down to preferences and expectations, mine really like the HD700s over the 800s, some do not.


Edited by Rob80b - 8/8/14 at 12:51pm
post #1930 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Rob80b View Post
 

mine really like the HD700s over the 800s

 

And I'm sure your wallet agrees with you :bigsmile_face: 

post #1931 of 2110

You guys ever read this thread?  

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614011/sennheiser-hd700-review

 

Kind of a contrast to this thread.  I have the 600/650/700/800 gang.  Like em each for what they bring, as different from each other as they are, I can find one I like at/for the moment.  And actually, the HD 800 is the least used.  600 the most.  700 is on my head now.  I use the 700 to play Gran Turismo driving game with.  Long term comfort, good at picking up tire and engine sounds from the car and nearby racers and the most comfortable to me by far.  Though my 600s feel like slippers cause I use them constantly if the 700s aren't on my head.

 

Something I think I've noticed here is that you newer to thread guys are probably only reading comments from the also new to this thread guys.  More praise than dislike of the 700.  It was a really rough road of reviews when they first came out.  

 

And currently, I'm probably at a point where if I had to sell one or the other, I think I'd let go of the 800 before the 700.  I even give myself the :blink: face on that one, but if based on nothing but usage, 700 is ten times more than 800.  600 is ten fold that.  Love those 600 slippers.

 

Cheers bros.  Enjoy those 700s.

post #1932 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post
 

You guys ever read this thread?  

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614011/sennheiser-hd700-review

 

Kind of a contrast to this thread.  I have the 600/650/700/800 gang.  Like em each for what they bring, as different from each other as they are, I can find one I like at/for the moment.  And actually, the HD 800 is the least used.  600 the most.  700 is on my head now.  I use the 700 to play Gran Turismo driving game with.  Long term comfort, good at picking up tire and engine sounds from the car and nearby racers and the most comfortable to me by far.  Though my 600s feel like slippers cause I use them constantly if the 700s aren't on my head.

 

Something I think I've noticed here is that you newer to thread guys are probably only reading comments from the also new to this thread guys.  More praise than dislike of the 700.  It was a really rough road of reviews when they first came out.  

 

And currently, I'm probably at a point where if I had to sell one or the other, I think I'd let go of the 800 before the 700.  I even give myself the :blink: face on that one, but if based on nothing but usage, 700 is ten times more than 800.  600 is ten fold that.  Love those 600 slippers.

 

Cheers bros.  Enjoy those 700s.

 

Of course with beer.;) Cheers!

post #1933 of 2110

I just received these and I must say, I am rather impressed at how well they do for around half the price of the HD800. Much better than the HD6X0s from memory and they are kind of a HD800/Grado hybrid lol. 

post #1934 of 2110

Oh, and here is my comparison with the HD800 that I posted in the HD800 thread. 

 

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Off the V200 and M-DAC, here is my opinion on the HD800 vs the HD700. 

 

 

 

The HD700 has more bass that punches harder but is still surprisingly fast and detailed. Mid-bass on the HD800 is not as heavy but it is cleaner and more detailed. The sub-bass is better on the HD800, it is cleaner and clearer. I do not find the HD800 bass light, it is very neutral and the HD700 are a little on the bassy side. I can see some people liking the HD700 bass more. 

 

The midrange of the HD700 is quite neutral and perhaps leans a little to the warm side. The HD800 mids are also very neutral, but IMO they are just a hair bright, which makes them very clear and detailed. The HD700 isn't like that and is much less analytical, they are both equally enjoyable, but being the detail lover I am, the HD800 is still the winner here, but it is quite competitiveness. 

 

Some people say the treble of the HD800 is overly bright, but IMO it is not. I have one of the latest pairs and the 6K spike is still there, but much less noticeable. The HD700 is bright, a fair bit brighter than the HD800. There is a little sibilance on the HD700 but I don't get bothered by it much. The HD800 is still more detailed and the treble is actually the best I have heard in any headphone I have tried. 

 

Soundstaging and imaging is no match. The HD800 is better period. There is no argument, the HD800 is simply king here. Imaging is more precise, on the HD800, but the HD700 was actually surprisingly good and not too far behind. The soundstage, however, is not that great on the HD700 and I was a bit disappointed here. 

 

The HD800 also is more detailed and has better separation as well as clarity. The HD700 is no slouch though, and it does impressively. 

 

I did not expect to like the HD700s so much, from all the negative reviews. I remember reading the flagship headphones review a while ago and saw the HD700 ranked behind the 600 and 650 and completely overlooked it. I have owned the HD600 twice and listened to the HD650 many times and I can confidently say the HD700 is much better. For me, they are not even close. They are a little better than the HE-500 IMO. I would say go and listen to them yourself before judging these, they are actually very nice, I think I will keep them (I try and a lot of stuff and sell it on), which is quite impressive. They are a great complement to the HD800 or the LCD series if you need a fun headphone that you can just enjoy the music on. 

 

The HD700s are actually a good buy, especially at the used prices. 

post #1935 of 2110
I remember reading quite a bit that the hd700 wasn't worth it, I'm so glad I got them anyways. A couple years ago when I first started paying attention to headphones, I started out with the Porta Pro, then moved quickly to the grado sr80. About a year after my next big upgrade was to the he400, which sounded amazing but was a little to far back in the mids. I spent 5 months making that decision and was strongly considering the momentum and the hd558. A year later is when I saw the deal of a lifetime on the hd700, which I had thought out of my range. During all this time when is see a sale, I'd usually bite so I could expand my horizons. Some i would like, some like the hd598 brought disappointment. This is the first headphone that out of the box I loved unconditionally, much like a fine steak, although I would not eat the hd700. It handles most genres quite well, which is important to me. It also doesn't hurt that it has an amazing look.

I'd write more, but im on a tablet.
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