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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

What did you have in mind? (Not the T1; I want cheaper and easier to drive) I had considered the T90...what else were you thinking of?
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The hd700 definitely is not v sig, and lcd2 really isn't either - they are more about thick layered texturing that you can feel and detailed lifelike sound that draws you emotionally into the music. There are a lot of v sig HPs out there that sound fun for a whole lot cheaper if that is your preferred sig.

V signatures are fun but not what I usually go for so I am not the best person to advise. The sennheiser momentum has a strong v with great bass, but was greatly outclassed by the hd700, so I didn't pay much attention. I did like the on ear (MOE) version better for better bass impact. I did like my tf10 iems with a strong v sig until I got my nt6pro CIEMs and stopped listening to them. They are now up for sale. Btw, the t1 is very balanced and neutral as well, not v sig. Anyone else have suggestions?
Edited by Barra - 8/3/14 at 8:30am
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First thing that crosses my mind for a good V sig phone is the he-400. It has some of the best bass for open headphones there is, along with the treble to compliment it. It can be found for $300 or less.
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Eh, I've tried the 500s and even on a high end rig it didn't impress me to be honest. It just sounded...boring. Also not a fan of their design, weight and fit.

Thanks for the rec though smily_headphones1.gif
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First thing that crosses my mind for a good V sig phone is the he-400. It has some of the best bass for open headphones there is, along with the treble to compliment it. It can be found for $300 or less.
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Yeah I owned the momentums, way too warm and unnatural sounding for me. Definitely looking for an open can that can best my DT770.

I'm admittedly curious about the NT6 but I hesitate to try them, I like a little bit more midbass; the JH13 has a similar focus on subbass and while its awesome, its a bit too monitor-like for me. I listen to love smily_headphones1.gif

The T1 .mostly came to mind because its a Beyer like my DT770. If I stuck with Beyers it'd probably be a DT990 250 or T90.
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post

V signatures are fun but not what I usually go for so I am not the best person to advise. The sennheiser momentum has a strong v with great bass, but was greatly outclassed by the hd700, so I didn't pay much attention. I did like the on ear (MOE) version better for better bass impact. I did like my tf10 iems with a strong v sig until I got my nt6pro CIEMs and stopped listening to them. They are now up for sale. Btw, the t1 is very balanced and neutral as well, not v sig. Anyone else have suggestions?

Edited by Gilly87 - 8/3/14 at 8:43am
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@Gilly87 Best V-sig is probably TH900. Unfortunately for you, TH600 is more neutral. You could also try hunting down one of the old Denons.
Edited by Sonido - 8/3/14 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Yeah I owned the momentums, way too warm and unnatural sounding for me. Definitely looking for an open can that can best my DT770.

I'm admittedly curious about the NT6 but I hesitate to try them, I like a little bit more midbass; the JH13 has a similar focus on subbass and while its awesome, its a bit too monitor-like for me. I listen to love smily_headphones1.gif

The T1 .mostly came to mind because its a Beyer like my DT770. If I stuck with Beyers it'd probably be a DT990 250 or T90.
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post

V signatures are fun but not what I usually go for so I am not the best person to advise. The sennheiser momentum has a strong v with great bass, but was greatly outclassed by the hd700, so I didn't pay much attention. I did like the on ear (MOE) version better for better bass impact. I did like my tf10 iems with a strong v sig until I got my nt6pro CIEMs and stopped listening to them. They are now up for sale. Btw, the t1 is very balanced and neutral as well, not v sig. Anyone else have suggestions?

The nt6pro version that I have goes deep but has real strength in mid bass as well. You can see my detailed comments throughout the pro thread, but the pro a/b against bass heavy CIEMs like the UE11 or 1964ears v8 match or beat their impact and extension easily but adds significant clarity, texturing, detail, and blackness between instruments without the added warmth. When you hear a really awesome CIEM and say wow, and then put the nt6pro back in your ears, it always seems to easily blow them away. Like I always say, it's not that the competition is bad - in fact they can be excellent - it is because the nt6pro is really that much better. I think it has a lot to do with their perfected 5way crossover.
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Eh, I've tried the 500s and even on a high end rig it didn't impress me to be honest. It just sounded...boring. Also not a fan of their design, weight and fit.

Thanks for the rec though smily_headphones1.gif

The 500 aims for a more tonally balanced presentation than the he-400. They're basically for two different sound sigs.
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Hmmmm...you have my attention.

 

YGPM

 

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The nt6pro version that I have goes deep but has real strength in mid bass as well. You can see my detailed comments throughout the pro thread, but the pro a/b against bass heavy CIEMs like the UE11 or 1964ears v8 match or beat their impact and extension easily but adds significant clarity, texturing, detail, and blackness between instruments without the added warmth. When you hear a really awesome CIEM and say wow, and then put the nt6pro back in your ears, it always seems to easily blow them away. Like I always say, it's not that the competition is bad - in fact they can be excellent - it is because the nt6pro is really that much better. I think it has a lot to do with their perfected 5way crossover.

 

 

Idk, I have never really been drawn to planars (none of the Audeze headphones really do it for me either), they sound empty to me for some reason and the tonality always feels a bit off.
 
I will try to give the HE400 a listen at the meet next week; maybe they will be the exception.
 
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The 500 aims for a more tonally balanced presentation than the he-400. They're basically for two different sound sigs.
 

The TH900 is great, I've really enjoyed myself when I've gotten the chance to demo them a few times, but I'm really looking for an open can; my DT770 suffices for when I need closed, and I want something that's really wide open and spacious sounding. If there was a slightly lesser, open TH900 for $700, I'd be on it ^_^

 

Tried the D2000s, they really weren't to my liking. Too warm in the mids, and an awkward peakiness somewhere in the 6-8k area to my ears; I much prefer the neutral vocal presentation and higher-up treble peak of the 770s. The Beyers have a noticeably wider soundstage to my ears as well, although the Denons might have been deeper.

 

The only reason I don't go for DT990s is because I've read so much about their bass just being out of control. I had to dampen my 770s very carefully to tighten the bass a bit, and if the 990s are like the 770s or worse, it will be too much bass for me.

 

Anyways, I'll stop threadjacking for recommendations now, but please, if something I'm saying resonates with something you've heard, please please PLEASE PM me ^_^

 

I appreciate all the responses, you guys rock :)

 

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@Gilly87 Best V-sig is probably TH900. Unfortunately for you, TH600 is more neutral. You could also try hunting down one of the old Denons.
 
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Well I've order a Bakoon current output amp, and based on some impressions from others, it's gonna make my HD800 sound V shaped just because of the nature current output amps and non linear impedance headphones like most high impedance dynamic cans. Ultimately I'm probably gonna get planars for it since those have flat impedances.
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For those who have had the HD-600, how would you compare it to the HD-700?

 

Ask Eee Pee.

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Look no further

http://www.head-fi.org/t/725127/comparison-review-a-tale-of-two-sennheisers-hd600-vs-hd700

 

In a nutshell IMHO the HD700 is a long overdue replacement for the HD600 series with newer ergonomics and more efficient drivers. The HD600s are still a highly regarded and sought after headphone but the HD700 bring better extension at both ends of the spectrum and a more natural staging (at least for me). Bass is better defined, tighter and deeper; the so-called Sennheiser veil (which some experience) has been eradicated for a clearer, crisper and livelier sound, although many still prefer the warmer and more laidback presentation of the 600s.

The down side is that the HD700s are less forgiving of bad recordings and some have reported an upper midrange spike of which I’ve yet to experience.

But overall even with all these changes Sennhieser somehow has still managed to retain their signature sound with the HD700s, which is easily discernable with direct comparison with any other phone.

Do they replace the HD600s, good question? But I like many have held onto both.;)

 

Thanks a lot for the input :)

 

I believe I'm not going to cancel the order on HD-600, because I can send them back if they don't please me, and I might try and buy the (used but almost new) HD-700 for $350, it's not much for these HPs.

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Ask Eee Pee.

 

No need cause here I am!  And I just posted this a few minutes ago in the 650 thread.

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That's exactly it, it's not well balanced.  Having all these Senns at once, it is absolutely the least balanced of them all.  I use the 600s the most often because I find it the most balanced.  And thus, the easiest to listen to.

 

 

That was talking about the 700s.  Kyno, absolutely get those 600s, you'll love them.  They're a great headphone and very worthwhile LONG TERM investment.  A reference point for everything else. 

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Originally Posted by Rob80b View Post

 
Look no further
http://www.head-fi.org/t/725127/comparison-review-a-tale-of-two-sennheisers-hd600-vs-hd700

In a nutshell IMHO the HD700 is a long overdue replacement for the HD600 series with newer ergonomics and more efficient drivers. The HD600s are still a highly regarded and sought after headphone but the HD700 bring better extension at both ends of the spectrum and a more natural staging (at least for me). Bass is better defined, tighter and deeper; the so-called Sennheiser veil (which some experience) has been eradicated for a clearer, crisper and livelier sound, although many still prefer the warmer and more laidback presentation of the 600s.
The down side is that the HD700s are less forgiving of bad recordings and some have reported an upper midrange spike of which I’ve yet to experience.
But overall even with all these changes Sennhieser somehow has still managed to retain their signature sound with the HD700s, which is easily discernable with direct comparison with any other phone.
Do they replace the HD600s, good question? But I like many have held onto both.wink.gif

Thanks a lot for the input smily_headphones1.gif

I believe I'm not going to cancel the order on HD-600, because I can send them back if they don't please me, and I might try and buy the (used but almost new) HD-700 for $350, it's not much for these HPs.

Wow, $350 is great for the hd700s. If you don't get them let me know so I can tells my interested friends, or maybe I'll just get a second pair.
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No need cause here I am!  And I just posted this a few minutes ago in the 650 thread.

 

That was talking about the 700s.  Kyno, absolutely get those 600s, you'll love them.  They're a great headphone and very worthwhile LONG TERM investment.  A reference point for everything else. 

 

They should actually come in next Wednesday so I'll post my impressions then.

 

I just hope they'll have more clarity than my HD-650. The HD-650 reminds me of my former DT990 Pro I quickly got rid of. Granted they are a lot nicer and more balanced, but they also have that strong and impactful bass clouding what already sounds like a muffle sound.

I'd also say I like less bass, the one from HD-650 have a great impact that makes you feel like your chair might be shaking, and it'll always be great on some tracks, but it eventually became tiring when it's always like that. The T90 I still own have a lot less bass (maybe a bit more wouldn't hurt), less impact, yet sounds nicer to me overall.

 

My problem now: I put on my T90, feel that emotion in music as long as I don't push the sound too high, and take them off after 20 minutes because of their great brightness/harshness. Then I put on my HD-650, feel like I'm going deep underwater but still catch a good breath (paradox :D ) off my T90, and also take them off after 20 minutes cause I feel like I could become claustrophobic, to only put back the T90.

 

So I can't keep either one of them and trying to find something less extreme, just decent clarity and details without huge bass or harsh treble.

I thought maybe the HD-700 could be an option, but I read a lot about it's treble being not that smooth. The HE-500 also, but I can't have it below 600 € new (same as the T1) against 400 € for the HD-700 and 250 € for the HD-600/650, that counts too.

 

Thanks for everyone's help though, it's nice to be able to discuss it here :)

 

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Wow, $350 is great for the hd700s. If you don't get them let me know so I can tells my interested friends, or maybe I'll just get a second pair.
 
Sorry I actually meant euros (EU sale), not dollars. It's still a great price since they're retailing around 500 €, but not half of the $700 from Amazon.com.

Edited by Kyno - 8/3/14 at 12:50pm
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Has anyone tried the HD700 with both the Aune T1 and Aune x1 Pro, any comment as to which one is more preferred? I had the chance to try the HD700 with Aune x1 Pro and really loved how it sounded, but with further research I saw the Aune T1, but unfortunately my local shop does not have one for me to test. I understand that with the ability to change tubes, the T1 is quite versatile.

 

I got the chance to test some other ones amps that my local shop had (budget $300) Fubar HD, some Hifiman amp/dac's, Fiio E17, E9, but I always went back to the X1 Pro because I like the sound it produced with the HD700.

 

I was also recommended Audio-GD NFB-15 in another thread, anyone had a chance to run the HD700 with these?

 

Thanks.

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