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post #1861 of 2473

Hi! 

 

Owners of HD-700, I'd have a question: 

 

I can get an almost new at a great price, but wondering if it's worth it.

I'm rather sensitive to harsh treble (AKG K701 would be hard to listen to sometimes, and I can't stand the Beyerdymanic T90 at all).

 

I currently have an HD-650, and it's kind of the opposite, I find it too veiled with a great lack of clarity in the instrumental (I barely here some I perfectly get loud and clear with the K701 and T90, for instance), and maybe a bit too much bass to my liking... I'm still not sure they can ever be what I want with a better equipement.

 

I was thinking of trying the HD-600, but just found this HD-700 for not much higher. What do you think?

 

Thanks!

post #1862 of 2473
I'll be getting an HD650 with a really good diy tube amp or and HD700 to use straight out of the Fiio X5, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. I mostly listen to classic rock (R.E.M, Eagles, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin) and Beatles
post #1863 of 2473
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Originally Posted by Kyno View Post

Hi! 

Owners of HD-700, I'd have a question: 

I can get an almost new at a great price, but wondering if it's worth it.
I'm rather sensitive to harsh treble (AKG K701 would be hard to listen to sometimes, and I can't stand the Beyerdymanic T90 at all).

I currently have an HD-650, and it's kind of the opposite, I find it too veiled with a great lack of clarity in the instrumental (I barely here some I perfectly get loud and clear with the K701 and T90, for instance), and maybe a bit too much bass to my liking... I'm still not sure they can ever be what I want with a better equipement.

I was thinking of trying the HD-600, but just found this HD-700 for not much higher. What do you think?

Thanks!

I'm assuming you don't have an opportunity to audition as you are really talking about two different signatures. I have never been overly impressed with either 600 or 650 feeling they lacked detail or audiophile clarity/soundstage. On the other hand, the hd700 I am very impressed with having 90 to 95 percent the hd800 signature and performance with advantages over the hd800 for certain applications. It really comes down to what you are looking for and your desire to purchase the equipment to support. The hd700 sounds great out of your phone and scales up from their. Let's see you run your 650 directly out of your phone.
post #1864 of 2473
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Originally Posted by amirhosein View Post

I'll be getting an HD650 with a really good diy tube amp or and HD700 to use straight out of the Fiio X5, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. I mostly listen to classic rock (R.E.M, Eagles, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin) and Beatles

 

If you do decide to go the HD700 route, you might want to consider an additional amp like the E12 to go along with the X5.  I just got my X5, so I haven't sat down to see how the hd700 sounds out of it, but I know I felt there was a noticable quality boost on my X3 when I got the E12 to go with my HD700.

post #1865 of 2473
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

If you do decide to go the HD700 route, you might want to consider an additional amp like the E12 to go along with the X5.  I just got my X5, so I haven't sat down to see how the hd700 sounds out of it, but I know I felt there was a noticable quality boost on my X3 when I got the E12 to go with my HD700.
Greatly appreciated!
I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions on how your HD700 sounds out of e12 through the X5 and directly out of it smily_headphones1.gif
post #1866 of 2473
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Originally Posted by amirhosein View Post

Greatly appreciated!
I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions on how your HD700 sounds out of e12 through the X5 and directly out of it smily_headphones1.gif

It'll most likely be after the weekend before I could post those. Siriusxm is broadcasting Lollapalooza, so I'm quite audibly occupied, very pleasantly so
post #1867 of 2473
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post


I'm assuming you don't have an opportunity to audition as you are really talking about two different signatures. I have never been overly impressed with either 600 or 650 feeling they lacked detail or audiophile clarity/soundstage. On the other hand, the hd700 I am very impressed with having 90 to 95 percent the hd800 signature and performance with advantages over the hd800 for certain applications. It really comes down to what you are looking for and your desire to purchase the equipment to support. The hd700 sounds great out of your phone and scales up from their. Let's see you run your 650 directly out of your phone.

 

I actually never tried it and just put them my phone, ouch :D Voices are still quite nice though, but the rest is interesting to listen in comparaison, made you appreciate more your desktop equipement.

 

The lack of details and clarity is indeed what's killing me with the HD-650. It partly goes away if I don't listen to other headphones for a while, yet I still notice it too much. Last time I tried the T90 for 30 minutes, it kinda killed my ears with its harsh treble (granted they weren't driven with the best amp/dac for them, I read tubes were in order to soften up that issue, cause every "sss" was currently a problem), but it made me feel I was going deep under water when I put my HD-650 back on. My only thinking was that I needed clearer/more detailed headphones.

 

I find that The Lord of the Rings OST actually sound terrible with them, I don't even try to listen to it anymore. The fact that the music usually stays low, the lack of details and clarity is a deal-breaker.

It's a lot different than Jurassic Park theme for instance, which can go quite high, where the soft and round highs of the HD-650 make sure it doesn't become fatiguing, but it comes at a great exchange for a lot of other tracks.

 

On the other hand, I'm only afraid that the HD-700 might be really bright/on the painful side of treble. I read it was more of a U-shape than the HD-800 (more bass, don't mind, but harsher highs).

 

I'm thinking more and more that details/clarity/soft enough treble/better soundstage/less bass is sending me right on the HD-800, which is unfortunately sitting at three times the price of the HD-700 I'm looking at :D 


Edited by Kyno - 8/2/14 at 4:04pm
post #1868 of 2473
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Originally Posted by amirhosein View Post

I'll be getting an HD650 with a really good diy tube amp or and HD700 to use straight out of the Fiio X5, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. I mostly listen to classic rock (R.E.M, Eagles, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin) and Beatles
The one area that is hit or miss with the hd700s is rock. Sometimes rock sounds better muddy or smired due to a bad mastering or just the grittiness inherent in rock. In this case a 600/650 would be better in general. However, older live or more acoustic rock - especially the Beatles, the hd700 kicks ass. But things like my metal can be too revealing for its own good and often sounds like crap. I listen to rock mostly on my warmer lcd2s.
Edited by Barra - 8/2/14 at 5:36pm
post #1869 of 2473
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Originally Posted by Kyno View Post


On the other hand, I'm only afraid that the HD-700 might be really bright/on the painful side of treble. I read it was more of a U-shape than the HD-800 (more bass, don't mind, but harsher highs).

I'm thinking more and more that details/clarity/soft enough treble/better soundstage/less bass is sending me right on the HD-800, which is unfortunately sitting at three times the price of the HD-700 I'm looking at biggrin.gif  

I listened to both 800/700 side by side and found advantages to both so will probably get and keep both. However, until I get the very expensive setup to get the most out of a 800, the 700 will likely match its performance on my current desktop or portable setup. Btw, the hd700 is somewhat bright, but not overly as I am bright sensitive as well. It is about the same brightness as an 800. However, the brightness provides huge value with sound stage, clarity, and detail while coupling with the rest of the frequencies for intense textures that you can feel. It is not bright for the sake of being bright. If it was a bother, the brightness of this quality can easily be tamed by EQ or a simple hd800 style mod.
Edited by Barra - 8/2/14 at 6:50pm
post #1870 of 2473
What did you have in mind? (Not the T1; I want cheaper and easier to drive) I had considered the T90...what else were you thinking of?
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post

The hd700 definitely is not v sig, and lcd2 really isn't either - they are more about thick layered texturing that you can feel and detailed lifelike sound that draws you emotionally into the music. There are a lot of v sig HPs out there that sound fun for a whole lot cheaper if that is your preferred sig.
post #1871 of 2473
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Originally Posted by amirhosein View Post

I'll be getting an HD650 with a really good diy tube amp or and HD700 to use straight out of the Fiio X5, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. I mostly listen to classic rock (R.E.M, Eagles, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin) and Beatles

 

I would go for the HD650 with a really good tube amp. 

post #1872 of 2473
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post


The one area that is hit or miss with the hd700s is rock. Sometimes rock sounds better muddy or smired due to a bad mastering or just the grittiness inherent in rock. In this case a 600/650 would be better in general. However, older live or more acoustic rock - especially the Beatles, the hd700 kicks ass. But things like my metal can be too revealing for its own good and often sounds like crap. I listen to rock mostly on my warmer lcd2s.

 

+1  the HD700's sound signature is truly pleasant for the acoustic and the classic rock.    

post #1873 of 2473

For those who have had the HD-600, how would you compare it to the HD-700?

post #1874 of 2473
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Originally Posted by Kyno View Post
 

For those who have had the HD-600, how would you compare it to the HD-700?

Look no further

http://www.head-fi.org/t/725127/comparison-review-a-tale-of-two-sennheisers-hd600-vs-hd700

 

In a nutshell IMHO the HD700 is a long overdue replacement for the HD600 series with newer ergonomics and more efficient drivers. The HD600s are still a highly regarded and sought after headphone but the HD700 bring better extension at both ends of the spectrum and a more natural staging (at least for me). Bass is better defined, tighter and deeper; the so-called Sennheiser veil (which some experience) has been eradicated for a clearer, crisper and livelier sound, although many still prefer the warmer and more laidback presentation of the 600s.

The down side is that the HD700s are less forgiving of bad recordings and some have reported an upper midrange spike of which I’ve yet to experience.

But overall even with all these changes Sennhieser somehow has still managed to retain their signature sound with the HD700s, which is easily discernable with direct comparison with any other phone.

Do they replace the HD600s, good question? But I like many have held onto both.;)


Edited by Rob80b - 8/3/14 at 8:11am
post #1875 of 2473

I really like the HD700.  Here's a quick pic I took.

 

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