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post #1576 of 2110

That is good to hear Rob, glad you got your system back up and running how you like it.

post #1577 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Rob80b View Post
 

 

 

So far the HD700s are IMHO quite adept at realistically reproducing all genres of music, as I mentioned previously Kraftwerk’s live CD Minimum-Maximum was portrayed as I remembered the live performance,

Hey Guys

 

I'm about to eat my words as I'm off to see Kraftwerk this evening here in Toronto.:redface:

post #1578 of 2110
I am really thinking of getting the 700 but have been going back and forth between this and the 650. I cannot get the chance to hear either before buying so will have to take a leap and see. My question is about amps. I am currently using the M&M stack running from my MBP using a decent mix of quality music, all genres. Will the 700 suffer with this setup? Where the 650 is described as darker, maybe will better utilize the Schiit? I also have the hifiman HE300 which I've heard is sort close to the 650. Maybe too close so maybe the jump to the 700 would better? In a conundrum of analysis paralysis. Any suggestions?
post #1579 of 2110

Little confused here, do you own the HE300 now, or were you saying that is also under consideration. The M&M stack is just a bit on the bright side, so I'd say the 650 would maybe be better for your setup. Kind of depends how sensitive you are to treble. My hearing isn't that great so the HD700 never bothered me a bit, but on some songs they got close. You might want to look at the HE400 or 500 while they are on sale too, the 500 especially.

post #1580 of 2110

Thanks for the note. I actually own the HE300 which I have read that is very similar to the signature of the HD650. That was why I was looking into the HD700 as something a little different. The treble spikes referred to here for the HD700 might be complicated by the Schiit...that was why I asking about the HD650. I have considered the HE500. It is also up for consideration against the HD700. Just probably over-thinking this. Just need to take the dive and go for something and then see what comes. I am entertaining opinions.

post #1581 of 2110

Ok guys, my Sennheiser HD 700's finally arrived!   I have been testing them this morning and last night.

 

They are definitely a massive step up over my previous cans, the Mad Dogs with Alpha Pads, AKG K701, and HD 650's

 

I am sure I could wear these for hours on end - the comfort is unparalleled (except by the HD 800s of course), and comfort is a huge factor for me.   I want to put a set of cans on my head and forget that I have them on.   I don't know what people are talking about with the sibiliance and treble spike - I have not noticed anything yet.   Everything sounds great to me, but again - I trust my ears, and don't know much about measurements. 

 

However - as I feared, the HD 700's don't have the bass slam and bass impact of the HD 650's that I miss so much.  So I am thinking of getting a companion headphone to complement these.    At the moment I am considering Hifiman HE-400i, Hifiman HE-560and Sennheiser 650's.   The clamping force of the 650's is a bit too much for my liking, but honestly I don't think I will ever find any basshead cans as comfortable as the HD 700's.  And with the new Hifimans, the weight is supposed to be reduced, and it is supposed to be a more comfortable design.   So I think all 3 cans should be up for consideration as a bass-head complement to HD 700s.  

 

Opinions, other suggestions welcome.

 

 

 

post #1582 of 2110
I don't know what you are saying about the lack of bass slam and impact if you could say what you are driving them with?
post #1583 of 2110
My amp is burson Ha-160. Don't get me wrong, the 700s have great, articulate, detailed bass. But the bass doesnt have that visceral, subwoofer like impact of the 650s. I listen to a lot of rap and electronic, so I like headphones like Denon AD2000 and HD-650s for that style of music.

HD700s seem to me, so far, better for classical and acoustic, jazz, etc. Which is great, because I listen to those styles too.
post #1584 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Jazzkammer View Post
 

Ok guys, my Sennheiser HD 700's finally arrived!   I have been testing them this morning and last night.

 

They are definitely a massive step up over my previous cans, the Mad Dogs with Alpha Pads, AKG K701, and HD 650's

 

I am sure I could wear these for hours on end - the comfort is unparalleled (except by the HD 800s of course), and comfort is a huge factor for me.   I want to put a set of cans on my head and forget that I have them on.   I don't know what people are talking about with the sibiliance and treble spike - I have not noticed anything yet.   Everything sounds great to me, but again - I trust my ears, and don't know much about measurements. 

 

However - as I feared, the HD 700's don't have the bass slam and bass impact of the HD 650's that I miss so much.  So I am thinking of getting a companion headphone to complement these.    At the moment I am considering Hifiman HE-400i, Hifiman HE-560and Sennheiser 650's.   The clamping force of the 650's is a bit too much for my liking, but honestly I don't think I will ever find any basshead cans as comfortable as the HD 700's.  And with the new Hifimans, the weight is supposed to be reduced, and it is supposed to be a more comfortable design.   So I think all 3 cans should be up for consideration as a bass-head complement to HD 700s.  

 

Opinions, other suggestions welcome.

 

 

 


Hello, Jazzkammer

 

I think you might want to audition the Focal Spirit Classic--though if you have a big noggin, or big ears, these cans will offer you no comfort whatsoever. None. Nada.  I also own the HD 650, HD 700, HD 800, and the  AKG Q702. Additionally, I own the HiFiMan HE 400 and HE 500. From what I've read thus far, I believe the HE 400i will be tuned to sound more like the HE 500, which means they will most likely have less bass-slam and presence than their predecessor.  The Focal Classic is a closed can, so it will not sound as open and airy as the HD 700, which, as you know, has an impressive sound-stage and an amazing amount of details. As for bass, the Focal is a dream if you're looking for presence or extension. By comparison, the HD 700 sounds lean, fast and transparent. The Focal Classic has considerably more bass (sub-bass and mid-bass) than even the HD 650. Yep, you read that correctly. More bass than the HD 650! And yet, the Classic's bass never bleeds into the midrange frequencies. I think you'll agree: that's an impressive feat. In many ways, the Classic reminds me of the HD 650. They both image comparably well, and both headphones, with regard to live music, give you a front-row performance; the HD 700 gives you a less intimate, perhaps more realistic performance. Anyway, audition these cans if you can. They are comfortable for me, but many folks complain about the clamp and semi-small ear cups. Cheers.  


Edited by Madmollusk - 4/3/14 at 2:25pm
post #1585 of 2110
Definitely gonna look into the Spirit Classics. Thanks!
post #1586 of 2110
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Originally Posted by Jazzkammer View Post
 

Ok guys, my Sennheiser HD 700's finally arrived!  ...............................

 

I don't know what people are talking about with the sibiliance and treble spike - I have not noticed anything yet.   Everything sounds great to me, but again - I trust my ears, and don't know much about measurements. 

 

However - as I feared, the HD 700's don't have the bass slam and bass impact of the HD 650's that I miss so much. ...............................................................

Opinions, other suggestions welcome.

 

 

 

No sibilance or treble spikes for me either and they do so sound great with all genres of music but I’d have to disagree with the bass.

Was just listening to Shriekback’s “Care” and Kraftwerk’s “Electric Café” on my current vinyl set-up, can’t really imagine having more bass, as there was more than enough bass slam and pressurization coming through those HD700s while still remaining focused and uncongested with the accompanying instrumentation even at high volume levels.

I have HD580/600s but have heard the 650’s on a few occasions but do not ever recall them having the same quality bass impact as the HD700 do, now mind you it does take a while full the HD700 to reach their full stride, more so than any can I’ve had, so give them a few weeks or so and see if your opinion remains the same.

IMHO any more bass would be an over exaggeration from what’s really on the recording as I frequently do compare my headphones with my reference speaker set-up, so far the HD700s have pulled out all the stops and are extremely delineated, but each to his own otherwise this hobby would grow old very quickly.;)

post #1587 of 2110

Haha, guys I'll say it again:  I think the Sennheiser HD 700 have great, accurate bass.  I'm not knocking them. 

 

But when I am listening to Odd Future or Burial, I want more than great, accurate bass.   That's why I think I am going to buy the V-Moda M-100, because I have been curious about them for a long time.   I am a dj as well, and in dire need of DJ cans (I have been using my 1964 Ears V6 for djing and it doesn't work that well), so the V-Moda will serve that purpose as well.   I am worried the M-100 will be too uncomfortable and have a mediocre detail retrieval and closed-in soundstage comjpared to the HD 700, but hopefully they won't be too bad.  

 

 

post #1588 of 2110

I was actually thinking that the Ultrasone Signature DJ would fit the bill more, it absolutely smokes the M100 IMO - and is built to be a DJ can. More detailed, better imaging, cleaner more powerful bass, better isolation and very durable. The M100 is a big downgrade from the HD700 - no way comparable in detail or soundstage.


Edited by UNIFi - 4/4/14 at 5:57am
post #1589 of 2110
I looked into Ultrasones but they look small and look like they sit on the ears rather than over the ears. How is the comfort? For the same reason, I am hesitant to cop the Focal Spirit Classics, because they arent big enough and clamp so much.

Definitely reconsidering the m-100s now. Would I be better off to save up for Shure Sr1540 or Fostex Th-600?

They have to be closed, have great bass, be comfortable, and be able to be driven out of an ipod essentially (dj gear does not drive hard to drive headphones)

If I can't find the perfect headphone to fit the bill, then I might just re-buy the Hd-650s for bass heavy music and buy something cheap like Sennheiser Amperiors for the occassional dj session.
Sorry to derail the topic.
Edited by Jazzkammer - 4/4/14 at 6:24am
post #1590 of 2110

Hello all,

 

This is my first post over here, so please give me a warm welcome !!!

 

Alright, so, I'm completely new to the world of hifi, and after many tests at local stores, I've bought a new HD700 that'll be arriving in 2weeks. I paid 450€ for them, the store had made a mistake to my advantage !

What I like best about them, is the comfort, compared to all others I've tested (BeyerDynamic, AKG, Philips, AudioTechnica, Fostex, Ergo...).

I enjoyed its tight bass, pretty neutral mids and softer highs (than the HD800).

 

Through amping, I'd like to give them a somewhat deeper bass without touching the mids and keeping them tight, and try to tame the sibillance a bit.

Something punchy, dynamic, but not too bright. Something that makes the sound fuller.

I listen to pop/rock, electro, acoustic, classic. No jazz, but would like to get into that some more. FLAC 44.1/16, Mp3 VBR 320kbps.

 

 

So i'm currently researching amps and DAC/amps for these cans, my budget is around 600€ new/used. The DAC I can live without for now as I have a high end sound card that'll do th trick.

 

I've looked at the Violectric 100/200, Schiit Lyr/Valhalla, Lehmann Black Cube, Burson HA160, and Musical Fidelity M1-HPA.

I know there are others, but these seem the most widely available.

 

 

What do you guys think ? What would be your recommendations considering my taste ?

 

Thanks !

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