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post #1441 of 2457
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Originally Posted by Klots View Post
 


Customs in Estonia work like this. When the price is over ~30$ I have to pay 20% VAT (from item price + shipping). So, when crack is 279$ and shipping is 72$ it makes 350$ total. Now we add 20% and that makes 420$ total. When the item price is over 200$ they also might add customs tax, depending on what item it is. But I think that it should be 0%, because they are just electronic parts and not a complete unit. Also the 12$ for paperwork in customs.

Now the Modi. When I purchase just the Modi the shipping is still ~80$. So the Modi will cost to me 180$ + 20% VAT = 204$ (+12$ for paperwork).

Usually everything I would like to order comes from US, so customs are happy to take my money I guess :biggrin:

650$ for Modi/Crack. Yesterday I thought that the total sum was larger :biggrin: But for 50$ more than modi/A2 combo, I think it is worth it.

Just in case.What to think about HRT Music Streamer II (not the plus edition)? I can have that in Estonia for the same price as Modi.

Thanks everyone who answered :beerchug:

So going with the Modi/Crack then?

post #1442 of 2457
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

So going with the Modi/Crack then?


It seems so. If I can't find a better dac for 100usd in US or 200usd in Europe. I want to decide in a few weeks. So if anyone has more recommendations in the DAC section, then shoot :popcorn: 

Edit: What about Aune T1 for dac? Can get it exactly the same price as Modi. Or will a tube dac and tube amp be a too warm combo? One + for the Aune is that it includes an amp also and it is a little unit to transport out of home. But of course sound is more important as we know :dt880smile:


Edited by Klots - 2/26/14 at 12:18am
post #1443 of 2457

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the MSII. It's very well reviewed. Mine has always worked perfectly and been very pleasant. It would tuck out of the way better than the modi. 

post #1444 of 2457
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Originally Posted by Klots View Post
 

Hello! New HD700 owner here and I need some advice. Im currently using my senns through Fiio E10, but I want to upgrade dac/amp. I have two setups in mind...

 

1) Schiit Modi/Asgard2 - about 600$ (incl. shipping + customs)

2) ODAC/Bottlehead Crack with speedball - about 800$ (incl. shipping+customs)

 

 

Max I can spend is 800$ (then of course I have to eat instant noodles for two months :D). 

 

I have heard that Crack pairs very well with senns, but is crack/odac combo 200$ better than schiiit?

Please share your opinions and findings :) 

 

I didn't like the Asgard2 for the HD700 at all. The Crack (without speedball) was quite pleasant with the HD700.  The Valhalla is also good as same as the Lyr but for the money the Valhalla is a better choice than the Lyr, IMO. 

post #1445 of 2457

How about the matching with Burson conductor?

post #1446 of 2457

ODAC is in your price range, go with it.

post #1447 of 2457
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I didn't like the Asgard2 for the HD700 at all. The Crack (without speedball) was quite pleasant with the HD700.  The Valhalla is also good as same as the Lyr but for the money the Valhalla is a better choice than the Lyr, IMO. 

I really love the Asgard2 with the Uber Bifrost (should run about $700), in fact, its the combo that finally made me fall in love with the HD700. I think A2/Bifrost work synergistically: the whole stack is greater than the sum of its part.
post #1448 of 2457

I agree.  The A2 and Bifrost Uber perform well above their price point.

post #1449 of 2457

Really? To me, it was so blatantly bad when compared to the Lyr. What about the A2 did you like with the HD 700?

post #1450 of 2457

Hello all, thought I'd chime in on this thread now that I've owned my HD700's for a few months. I bought these from my workplace at a pretty substantial discount (got them for £340 GBP) and in all honesty that was a big factor in my purchase. These are my first set of proper headphones, my usual listening having always been on a living room, full size Hi-Fi - which due to circumstances has been done away with in favour of a much smaller setup.

When I originally bought them I had demo'd them with my M-DAC (from my Hi-Fi - since sold) and was impressed but felt that the headphone out on this wasn't amazing, and that the brightness that everyone talked about on here was definitely something that stood out for me. This was almost enough over the first few days to make me regret my purchase, no matter how good the deal in question, but I soldiered on with running them in, and in the mean time bought a Matrix M-Stage HPA-2. Initially I really liked this combo, I'd read the epic thread about the original amplifier and despite it being SS, a lot of folks felt it still had a relative warmth to it, but with plenty of power to command most 'phones adequately. I found that with most of the music I listened to it had plenty of punch, was very dynamic, but over a few weeks I just liked it less and less. I felt that with reference music it excelled, but that with stuff I actually wanted to LISTEN TO, it fell apart quite quickly.

Now my listening tastes, as most peoples tend to be, are quite varied - favourite genres being Ambient, Dub Techno, Modern Classical, anything of the above sort of ilk, but also Jazz, Pop (in the generic sense) etc, and my favourite artists in a general sense are Bob Dylan & Radiohead. In particular the Dylan side of things is a big part of my listening, has been for many years now and given that some of his albums sound like complete crap in a technical sense (even barring peoples preference on the man himself!!) I found that I was shying away from really listening properly and for very long.

RIGHT - so, having checked back through this thread the same thing kept cropping up over and over - VALVE / TUBE AMPS. I've always wanted to dip my toe in these waters but never had - until now! I bought myself a Little Dot MK3 and a couple of new tubes (couldn't help myself) and after a weeks worth of burning in, swapping bits in, swapping bits out etc I can honestly say that I am completely bowled over by the sound I now get. The albums that were previously torture sessions with the M-Stage were now my absolute favourites once more, everything was how I'd hoped it would be when I set out to do this - it sounded more like my £5000 Hi-Fi rather than my use-to-get-to-work iPod and cheapo buds setup.

Bass was plentiful where before it had been lacking, that wild top end that reared it's head at the worst moments is tamed, but not at the expense of clarity. The separation of instruments was never a huge issue before, but now it seems more pronounced again - and these are showing themselves to be exceptional headphones. Despite being my first proper pair I've owned, I have the chance to demo on a daily basis the HD800, Beyer T50, Grado RS-1's PS1000's and I feel in their own way they sit more than comfortably alongside this type of phone.

I suppose, in a very long winded way, what I'm trying to say, and this will come as no surprise to anyone really (rending all of this spiel completely pointless!! :wink_face:) is that the SYNERGY of a system is so very important to get right, and that personal preferences on sound aside, that a good matchup of ancillary components can make or break any set of headphone, or anything else for the matter I suppose.

See I told you everybody already knew this and it was a pointless post!!

TL:DR - I didn't like these much and now I do!

:L3000:

post #1451 of 2457

Hello, I currently use the HD700 with a Little Dot MK3 & HRT Music Streamer II and am extremely happy with the sound I am getting. If you only need USB (I did) then it's highly recommended for the cash. The plus seems to split people down the middle as to whether it's worth the extra so maybe have a look at a few comparison reviews first if you are thinking between the two - otherwise I recommend the II.

Cheers

post #1452 of 2457
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Originally Posted by Klots View Post
 


Customs in Estonia work like this. When the price is over ~30$ I have to pay 20% VAT (from item price + shipping). So, when crack is 279$ and shipping is 72$ it makes 350$ total. Now we add 20% and that makes 420$ total. When the item price is over 200$ they also might add customs tax, depending on what item it is. But I think that it should be 0%, because they are just electronic parts and not a complete unit. Also the 12$ for paperwork in customs.

Now the Modi. When I purchase just the Modi the shipping is still ~80$. So the Modi will cost to me 180$ + 20% VAT = 204$ (+12$ for paperwork).

Usually everything I would like to order comes from US, so customs are happy to take my money I guess :biggrin:

650$ for Modi/Crack. Yesterday I thought that the total sum was larger :biggrin: But for 50$ more than modi/A2 combo, I think it is worth it.

Just in case.What to think about HRT Music Streamer II (not the plus edition)? I can have that in Estonia for the same price as Modi.

Thanks everyone who answered :beerchug:




 


Sorry my above post was in reply to this previous post - doh.

post #1453 of 2457
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Sorry my above post was in reply to this previous post - doh.

Thank you for your answer! I have googled a lot of info in the last few days and I think I am going with Aune T1 for  DAC. If I get Schiit modi or HRT MSII for the same price as Aune T1, then I think that Aune will offer more ( amp + tube glow :D). There ain't lots of info about Aune T1 DAC + BH Crack, but there is some and it is not negative. Headfonias review about Magni&Modi says that Modi and T1 dac almost sound the same, so the amp in T1 is like a free gift. 

post #1454 of 2457
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Originally Posted by cbf123 View Post
 

Hello, I currently use the HD700 with a Little Dot MK3 & HRT Music Streamer II and am extremely happy with the sound I am getting. If you only need USB (I did) then it's highly recommended for the cash. The plus seems to split people down the middle as to whether it's worth the extra so maybe have a look at a few comparison reviews first if you are thinking between the two - otherwise I recommend the II.

Cheers

 

I used to have this exact setup (but before I owned the HD 700) It's quite a warm combo, which would tame the high end of the HD 700 if that's the sound you're after. I upgraded to the HRT MS II+ which is a decidedly brighter DAC, but is also noticeably more detailed with a much deeper soundstage. I find it very energetic and musical with the HD 700.

post #1455 of 2457

I have to agree, the Little Dot MkIII seems to work very well with the HD700's. In fact with most Sennheiser phones. I am very happy with mine in that combo along with a Modi dac. I know a BIfrost Uber would be even better and I intend to do that upgrade soon but his isn't at all a bad sounding setup.

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