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post #1411 of 1996
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post


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You're gonna eat those words (I hope)!

post #1412 of 1996
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I still think you can easily surpass the HD700 in technicalities and have the euphony at the same time for not that much (<$1000) with the HD800. Now as far as having both euphony and the best technicalities out of the HD800, yeah, that probably costs a lot more. Case in point, my Bottlehead setup is less than $500 and sounds just as euphonic if not more so than when I had the HD700, and is better in details, but I can clearly tell that the mere $120 Schiit Vali brings out the details better for the HD800, but it lacks in euphony and musicality.

New HD700 owner here, I haven't had them long enough to make any worthwhile comparisons but so far so good. +2 on the crack and the 800 pairing. I've paired a number of amps with my HD800s many 3 or 4 times the cost of the Crack. The Woo WA22, Cavalli Liquid Fire, and Bijou for example, I still own these by the way. For some reason I end up listening to the Crack with the 800s 90% of the time. Admittedly, my Crack has little of the stock components installed. I'll give my impressions of the 700s when I have more time with them. By the way anyone looking for an affordable case for the 700s, here is a link to the case I bought, http://www.tagpilotsupply.com/comsafehardheadsetcase.aspx

Cheers,
Shawn
Edited by Skp44 - 2/22/14 at 3:02am
post #1413 of 1996
I just received a pair of HD700s for demo yesterday. Very, impressed with the build quality, feel and comfort. Will be trying them with Bottlehead Crack and Schiit Magni. Quick listens last night I prefered the Magni. This morning while waiting for the coffee to brew. I popped the HD700s on with an iPod Classic. Surprised how nice they sounded. I though I was done buying headphones....cool.gif
post #1414 of 1996
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Originally Posted by lextek View Post

I just received a pair of HD700s for demo yesterday. Very, impressed with the build quality, feel and comfort. Will be trying them with Bottlehead Crack and Schiit Magni. Quick listens last night I prefered the Magni. This morning while waiting for the coffee to brew. I popped the HD700s on with an iPod Classic. Surprised how nice they sounded. I though I was done buying headphones....cool.gif


You can't say you weren't warned!

post #1415 of 1996
Finally got mine yesterday.

My first impression was oh my God what did I do. The sound was very congested and it didn't play very loud. Even though I have a Fiio E 11 for an amplifier (my JDS C5d will arrive on Monday), I was surprised how high I needed to turn the amplifier volume to get a listenable output level from the HD700.

I took a deep breath put a song on repeat and walked away for a couple of hours. when I came back the sound was significantly improved. Where I had to turn the level up to seven or eight of the amplifier for a listing level I can now have it three or four for about the same with the volume. Now even my iOS and iPods can drive them directly. Although not with authority. But very listenable. I intend to break them in more on my audiophile downtime.

My first impressions are twofold. My iems have left right and center. With some soundstage. The HD700 have soundstage with left right and center. Meaning it is much more immersive and even. The other is the dynamic attack. These things can rock. The kick drums are not just dynamic but also tight with little overhang. If I am being critical, the mid bass region seems a little muddy still and the vocals are lack some separations from the rest of the music. To be fair, I am comparing them to my home speakers which are know for the soundstage and imaging.

I think with some more break-in and improved source and amplification the HD will temporarily satisfy my audiophile need.

We all know satisfaction is temporary.
Edited by psonoda - 2/22/14 at 6:04pm
post #1416 of 1996
Anybody have a channel cut out from time to time? Doesn't seem to be the amp or cable.
post #1417 of 1996
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Originally Posted by psonoda View Post

Finally got mine yesterday.

My first impression was oh my God what did I do. The sound was very congested and it didn't play very loud. ................................................

I think with some more break-in and improved source and amplification the HD will temporarily satisfy my audiophile need.
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Hi psonoda

 

Interesting as I had similar impressions right out the box, more so than any other headphone I had bought new except for the K701s bought second-hand.

After letting them play continual while at work I was pleasantly surprised upon my return where they had remarkably opened up considerably and then it was clear sailing with further improvements up to about the fifty-hour mark.

As I mentioned above, Senn are currently waiting on matched drivers to install on mine, as there was a slight dB difference between channels (not a big problem as my Bryston BHA-1 has a balance control but all the same…) so I’m expecting similar first impressions when they are returned, but we will see.

post #1418 of 1996

Have had my HD700s for about a month and a half now. When I first got them I was completely underwhelmed. I paired them first with the FiiO X3 and the E12 amp: they sounded pretty lifeless in the bass department and the highs were very sharp and over bearing. Sure, this wasn't top of the line equipment, but this setup sounded just fine with my HD650s and really shined with my Amperiors and Momentums.

 

When I got home that day, I plugged them into my Schiit Asgard2, still using the X3 as a source. They got better, but still lacked bass and the highs were still sharp, at this point I much preferred my HD650s. After A/Bing the 650s with the 700s, I could tell the 700s had a bit more detail, but the lack of bass impact and the sharp highs were killing it for me. I thought for sure I would be sending these back, but a little voice inside my head told me to not do it: "you bought $1000 headphones for nearly half that!" Totally the wrong reason to keep something, but I resolved to give em a full week's worth of use.

 

I would leave the headphones running all night, every night with the Isotek Burn In CD playing on a constant loop. About 5 days later, I had some time to A/B again. Again, the set up was computer -> X3 -> A2 -> HD650/700. This time around, the difference in detail between the two cans was very pronounced, and what became extremely apparent is the HD700s much wider soundstage. This was a real shock: I had held the 650 on such a high pedestal for those exact qualities, I couldn't believe how much more I was getting from the HD700s. Yes, I still prefered the bass kick of the 650s, and yes cartain highs were still a bit edgy and harsh, but now the good qualities where starting to over shadow the bad qualities. I decided to give the HD700s another week.

 

During that week, I ordered and received my UberBifrost from Schiit. When I got it all hooked up and blasted music from my PC, I could not beleive what I was hearing: the bass on the HD700 came alive. It still didn't kick like the HD650, but it was so tight and responsive, and did kick better than before. The highs got much more mellow, and the detail and soundstage where better than ever. A/B'ing with the HD650s finally made me a beleiver: the HD700 was a better can than the HD650. The HD650 now sounded a little rougher, a little less detailed, just a little less polished than it had sounded before: in direct comparison to the HD700s, the HD650s were not as good, overall. 

 

So officially in love with the HD700/A2/Bifrost combo. It is absolutely stunning!

post #1419 of 1996
Zot Zot. I have felt like that before, that the hd650 is a lesser headphone but I always ended up coming back to it. I just got a 5998 for my Bottlehead Crack and OMG. I still might try out the hd700 next month though. I am curious.
post #1420 of 1996
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Originally Posted by BruinAnteater View Post
 

Have had my HD700s for about a month and a half now. When I first got them I was completely underwhelmed. I paired them first with the FiiO X3 and the E12 amp: they sounded pretty lifeless in the bass department and the highs were very sharp and over bearing. Sure, this wasn't top of the line equipment, but this setup sounded just fine with my HD650s and really shined with my Amperiors and Momentums.

 

When I got home that day, I plugged them into my Schiit Asgard2, still using the X3 as a source. They got better, but still lacked bass and the highs were still sharp, at this point I much preferred my HD650s. After A/Bing the 650s with the 700s, I could tell the 700s had a bit more detail, but the lack of bass impact and the sharp highs were killing it for me. I thought for sure I would be sending these back, but a little voice inside my head told me to not do it: "you bought $1000 headphones for nearly half that!" Totally the wrong reason to keep something, but I resolved to give em a full week's worth of use.

 

I would leave the headphones running all night, every night with the Isotek Burn In CD playing on a constant loop. About 5 days later, I had some time to A/B again. Again, the set up was computer -> X3 -> A2 -> HD650/700. This time around, the difference in detail between the two cans was very pronounced, and what became extremely apparent is the HD700s much wider soundstage. This was a real shock: I had held the 650 on such a high pedestal for those exact qualities, I couldn't believe how much more I was getting from the HD700s. Yes, I still prefered the bass kick of the 650s, and yes cartain highs were still a bit edgy and harsh, but now the good qualities where starting to over shadow the bad qualities. I decided to give the HD700s another week.

 

During that week, I ordered and received my UberBifrost from Schiit. When I got it all hooked up and blasted music from my PC, I could not beleive what I was hearing: the bass on the HD700 came alive. It still didn't kick like the HD650, but it was so tight and responsive, and did kick better than before. The highs got much more mellow, and the detail and soundstage where better than ever. A/B'ing with the HD650s finally made me a beleiver: the HD700 was a better can than the HD650. The HD650 now sounded a little rougher, a little less detailed, just a little less polished than it had sounded before: in direct comparison to the HD700s, the HD650s were not as good, overall. 

 

So officially in love with the HD700/A2/Bifrost combo. It is absolutely stunning!

 

 

A little different for me. The 650's to me couldn't be beat when I ordered the 700's.  I felt the 700's right out of the box were better.  Now with aprx. 30 hours on them I think the 700's are amazing. Still love those 650's too though.

post #1421 of 1996
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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post

Zot Zot. I have felt like that before, that the hd650 is a lesser headphone but I always ended up coming back to it. I just got a 5998 for my Bottlehead Crack and OMG. I still might try out the hd700 next month though. I am curious.

The HD 650 with BH Crack/Speedball + Tung-Sol 5998 tube is a STUNNING combo. I have the same set-up and it's used pretty much exclusively for my HD 650 ;)

The HD 700 also sounds great with it, but still lacks a touch in sparkle and energy compared to running it on my Darkvoice 3322.

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A little different for me. The 650's to me couldn't be beat when I ordered the 700's.  I felt the 700's right out of the box were better.  Now with aprx. 30 hours on them I think the 700's are amazing. Still love those 650's too though.


+1 for me as well- it was pretty clear that the HD 700 was an upgrade to the HD 650 right out of the box. Though, I fell in love with both of their sound signatures at the very beginning even before burn-in. They are very different in presentation but both have extremely addicting qualities that compliment each other depending on my mood. Both are good "all around" headphones that play well with many different genres.


Edited by dxanex - 2/23/14 at 5:32pm
post #1422 of 1996
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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post

Zot Zot. I have felt like that before, that the hd650 is a lesser headphone but I always ended up coming back to it. I just got a 5998 for my Bottlehead Crack and OMG. I still might try out the hd700 next month though. I am curious.

Almost seems the Crack was designed for the TS5998 they go together so well. Too bad the 5998 has been hunted to near extinction, I have 4 and guard them closely. I run a Phillips E80CC SQ in the other position, have not rolled tubes for a while. Sennheiser should have a link to the Crack on their HD650 product page, the two pair so well. I've got the 700s hooked to a ss amp running 24/7 breaking in, I had trouble listening to them. The treble seemed overly harsh, hopefully they will smooth out after some run time.

Cheers,
Shawn
post #1423 of 1996
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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post

Zot Zot. I have felt like that before, that the hd650 is a lesser headphone but I always ended up coming back to it. I just got a 5998 for my Bottlehead Crack and OMG. I still might try out the hd700 next month though. I am curious.

I love it when Anteaters find each other! The HD700s are definitely worth it at the right price. Whether or not they are better than the HD650s, they are definitely different. The HD650s are my oldest headphones, and I have bought a descent amount since first getting the HD650s, nothing ever really made me doubt where the HD650s stood...until the HD700s the the right equipment showed up!

post #1424 of 1996
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Originally Posted by shultzee View Post
 

 

 

A little different for me. The 650's to me couldn't be beat when I ordered the 700's.  I felt the 700's right out of the box were better.  Now with aprx. 30 hours on them I think the 700's are amazing. Still love those 650's too though.

I absolutely still love my HD650s. Let me put it in this perspective: At their MSRP of $1000, the HD700s, I feel are a bit overpriced, but at $650, they are priced correctly and I wouldn't mind buying these again. By comparison, I think that at the MSRP of $500, the HD650s are priced correctly, but at $360, which is what I got them for originally, they are a steal and cannot be beat by anything near that price.

 

I still love my HD650s and would never consider selling them, and I would still prefer them over the 700s for certain genres of music, but now I feel like the HD700s are the better overall headphone. Which they should be, since they cost so much more than the 650s, still the 650s are a much better bargain than the 700s.

post #1425 of 1996
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Originally Posted by Skp44 View Post


Almost seems the Crack was designed for the TS5998 they go together so well. Too bad the 5998 has been hunted to near extinction, I have 4 and guard them closely. I run a Phillips E80CC SQ in the other position, have not rolled tubes for a while. Sennheiser should have a link to the Crack on their HD650 product page, the two pair so well. I've got the 700s hooked to a ss amp running 24/7 breaking in, I had trouble listening to them. The treble seemed overly harsh, hopefully they will smooth out after some run time.

Cheers,
Shawn

Here's something that might help. If you listen to music on your comp, try firing up the graphic equalizer and set the 6khz a tick or two lower than whatever its set to now. I've done this on JRiver and it's tamed the treble harshness well enough. Seems like the treble harshness of the HD700 happens at one very specific frequency: 6kHz. By just turning this frequency down a tiny bit, you tame that harshness without messing up the sound of the music.

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