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post #121 of 1792

While I agree that sadly the price of top tier headphones has become  ridiculous. I would pick the HD700 over the HD800,  T1 and GS1000 without hesitation. So there are actually quite a bargain biggrin.gif

post #122 of 1792

It's been a while since I've heard the HD800s, but I would also pick the HD700s over the HD800s, and also the T1's, which I demoed recently in my home for two weeks.

 

I sent an email to Moon Audio asking about upgrade cables for the HD700, and Drew responded, telling me that they are in the process of creating a mold for the HD700s connector.  He didn't say when it would be ready, but it's coming.  I'd like to get a Black Dragon cable for the HD700s, if I do end up buying a pair after my demo.

post #123 of 1792
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Originally Posted by jsplice View Post

I can see that as a possibility, but really I don't see the price as too much of an issue.  The HD700s is a merging of the technologies in the lower HD series and and the HD800s.  If you compare the HD650 and HD700 side by side (which I've done), it's clear that the HD700 is a much better headphone.  I don't have an HD800 on hand to compare all 3, but as far as price, I'd say they're all fairly in line.  There are a few reviews from people that have actually heard the HD700s, and from those people, the reviews seem to be positive.  There is a lot of FUD being spread about the HD700 that I just don't understand.  People complain that they aren't the HD800s, like they expect to get a pair of HD800s for $1000.  And the people who own HD600/650 complain because they expect the  HD700s to be an upgraded HD650.  The HD700 are not the HD600/650, and they aren't the HD800s; they are the HD700s.  People need to start accepting that and stop spreading the FUD, and give these headphones a chance.  The same thing happened when the HD800s came out; everyone expected them to be an enhanced HD650, and everyone was thrown for a loop once they actually heard them.

Also, don't forget, the retail price of the HD650s is still around $500.  So that puts the HD700s smack dab in the middle between the HD650s and HD800s.

I have yet to audition the HD700 and as such can't comment on it. I want to hear one though smily_headphones1.gif. I like to audition everything like the headphone whore I am. The pricing that I see is the HD600 for ~300USD, the HD650 for ~400USD and the HD800 for ~1499USD. Halfway between the last two is where the HD700 has been priced. The question is whether these sound close to a HD800 and if so, are a good bargain. As we have all read, many people complain about the brightness and some say it's worse than the HD800. That would be quite sad if it were true. Again, I need to trick someone else into buying them so I can give them a go myself!

Oh and 90% of the stuff posted on HF is complete rubbish. Nothing new here. One thing that I will say is that it is completely ok to like a headphone that very few people do not like. I like the W3000ANV. It is very coloured and does some weird stuff to vocals. I happen to like this 'weird stuff'. It makes some male vocals sound a lot younger. I will not recommend this headphone to others though and I accept all of the criticisms that other people have voiced. At the end of the day, who cares what other people think?


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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

While I agree that sadly the price of top tier headphones has become  ridiculous. I would pick the HD700 over the HD800,  T1 and GS1000 without hesitation. So there are actually quite a bargain biggrin.gif

Yeah the pricing is very high and there are numerous headphones all well into the thousands. Compare this with yesteryear and we had some stratospheric prices for only a couple of headphones.
post #124 of 1792
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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post


I'm going to take a stab at it and say the underlying issue is the price relative to the HD800, HD650 and HD600.

 

That's exact reason why people may not be interested in HD700.
I had about an hour testing session at the local store and I find that HD700 is just built on the cheap materials. Not impressive for $1000, and it's pretty small compare to HD800, looks even smaller than HD650. :(

HD800 cost $500 more, why not get HD800 instead ?
post #125 of 1792
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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post


I have yet to audition the HD700 and as such can't comment on it. I want to hear one though smily_headphones1.gif. I like to audition everything like the headphone whore I am. The pricing that I see is the HD600 for ~300USD, the HD650 for ~400USD and the HD800 for ~1499USD. Halfway between the last two is where the HD700 has been priced. The question is whether these sound close to a HD800 and if so, are a good bargain. As we have all read, many people complain about the brightness and some say it's worse than the HD800. That would be quite sad if it were true. Again, I need to trick someone else into buying them so I can give them a go myself!
Oh and 90% of the stuff posted on HF is complete rubbish. Nothing new here. One thing that I will say is that it is completely ok to like a headphone that very few people do not like. I like the W3000ANV. It is very coloured and does some weird stuff to vocals. I happen to like this 'weird stuff'. It makes some male vocals sound a lot younger. I will not recommend this headphone to others though and I accept all of the criticisms that other people have voiced. At the end of the day, who cares what other people think?
Yeah the pricing is very high and there are numerous headphones all well into the thousands. Compare this with yesteryear and we had some stratospheric prices for only a couple of headphones.

 


Well to me the sound quality of HD700 is one step down from HD800. I say same league as DT990, HE500, etc but definitely not the top tier headphone.

But there are other people who find differently, and that's ok, everyone has preferences.
You really have to see HD700 other than judging by the pictures, when I was holding it, I felt like I can easily break it in half with one finger, complete turn off for me.
post #126 of 1792

I got a chance to audition HD700 and HD800/650/600 today.

The comfortable is lacking compare to HD700 is lacking compare to HD800. I feel that they are lacking of padding. However, it is slightly more comfortable than HD650/600 because I feel it's lighter, and the headband forced is more relaxed. Overall, HD700 is still very comfortable for long listening period.

The sound stage is also slightly bigger than HD650/600, but it's about 60-70% of what the HD800 can offer in sound stage. The trebe of the HD700 is sparking, it makes me feel like something is prickling my ear. While the HD800 have a very smooth trebe, HD650 is punching and HD600 is balance. 

My ranking for all 4 headphones is: HD800 >>>>>> HD650 >> HD600 >>>>>>>>>>>>> HD700. 

I would rather buy the HD650/600 for leisure listening than the HD700.

post #127 of 1792

 mad.gifThis is an appreciation thread! How dare you...mad.gif

Joking. Nice impressions.

post #128 of 1792

Auditioned HD700 few days ago. Like Canadian411 said, I too am turned off by it's build quality. The plastic feels weak, especially the part that connect/holding the headband and the cups together.

 

However I like the sound of HD700, I find it's a nice change from my DT880. I especially like the bass quantity and decay while having good amount of treble. I can live with the mids, it's not as thin as DT880. As for the hot treble peak people have claimed I found none of them, though a friend of mine complained about it. The comfort on HD700 is probably the best I've ever experienced though I haven't tried HD800 myself. If there's any kind of complain I could bring up in terms of sound quality I find it to be somewhat...scratchy? I hope that will be gone with burn in.

 

Currently I am looking for an upgrade and I'm liking HD700 a lot but there are some factors that are holding me back from purchasing it. First; the build quality as I mentioned earlier. Second; the price. Over here HD700 is only $60 cheaper than T1 and the T1 have way better build quality and more micro details (everything else is probably on par with HD700, maybe except the bass). I wish HD700 to be slightly cheaper (maybe by $100) or have better build quality as I really like them. Though right now I am more inclined to purchase the HD700.

 

The next time I visit the local audio store (sometime this or next week) I'm going to audition the HD700 and T1 again. I hope the HD700 will win me over.

post #129 of 1792
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Originally Posted by madriz View Post

Auditioned HD700 few days ago. Like Canadian411 said, I too am turned off by it's build quality. The plastic feels weak, especially the part that connect/holding the headband and the cups together.

 

However I like the sound of HD700, I find it's a nice change from my DT880. I especially like the bass quantity and decay while having good amount of treble. I can live with the mids, it's not as thin as DT880. As for the hot treble peak people have claimed I found none of them, though a friend of mine complained about it. The comfort on HD700 is probably the best I've ever experienced though I haven't tried HD800 myself. If there's any kind of complain I could bring up in terms of sound quality I find it to be somewhat...scratchy? I hope that will be gone with burn in.

 

Currently I am looking for an upgrade and I'm liking HD700 a lot but there are some factors that are holding me back from purchasing it. First; the build quality as I mentioned earlier. Second; the price. Over here HD700 is only $60 cheaper than T1 and the T1 have way better build quality and more micro details (everything else is probably on par with HD700, maybe except the bass). I wish HD700 to be slightly cheaper (maybe by $100) or have better build quality as I really like them. Though right now I am more inclined to purchase the HD700.

 

The next time I visit the local audio store (sometime this or next week) I'm going to audition the HD700 and T1 again. I hope the HD700 will win me over.

 

Agree, I would probably get HD700 if it was around $500-$700 range but again, complete turn off by the build quality.

post #130 of 1792
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

 

Agree, I would probably get HD700 if it was around $500-$700 range but again, complete turn off by the build quality.

 

I can agree with that.  I would say that the extreme high end of price for the HD700s should be $800.  Maybe over time we'll see the "street price" come down on them, kinda like what happened with the HD650/600.  No one pays retail for those headphones anymore.

post #131 of 1792

I didn't pay Canadian retail for the HD700.. but did pay US retail.. why the $200 retail differenceangry_face.gif

Doesn't everyone pay retail for the LCD2?  At least Canadian retail is the same as US retail.. except for our darn taxes angry_face.gif

On the other hand, I'm really enjoying my HD700 and don't regret spending the moneyL3000.gif

Now that the LCD2 is available in Canada, I may have made a different choice (should have done more upfront research)blink.gif

My end game is to own bothatsmile.gif

 

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Originally Posted by jsplice View Post

 

I can agree with that.  I would say that the extreme high end of price for the HD700s should be $800.  Maybe over time we'll see the "street price" come down on them, kinda like what happened with the HD650/600.  No one pays retail for those headphones anymore.

post #132 of 1792
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

I didn't pay Canadian retail for the HD700.. but did pay US retail.. why the $200 retail differenceangry_face.gif

Doesn't everyone pay retail for the LCD2?  At least Canadian retail is the same as US retail.. except for our darn taxes angry_face.gif

On the other hand, I'm really enjoying my HD700 and don't regret spending the moneyL3000.gif

Now that the LCD2 is available in Canada, I may have made a different choice (should have done more upfront research)blink.gif

My end game is to own bothatsmile.gif

 

Sorry, didn't mean to piss off anyone who has recently purchased them.  I'm sure there is some kind of price control that is going on with the LCD-2, because the retailer I bought them from has them listed specifically as an item than he can't negotiate on....you pay retail, or you don't get them.  I wouldn't have too much regret, the HD700s are good to my ears, and so are the LCD-2s.  I could be equally happy with either headphone, although I would personally pick the LCD-2 over the HD700 just based on my personal preference.  BUT, I would love to own both biggrin.gif

post #133 of 1792
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

... except for our darn taxes angry_face.gif

 

 

Taxes ! I hate Canada.

post #134 of 1792

All in fun! No apologies necessary! Just some random thoughts and ramblings on my side - not pissed off at all. Actually, although I agree that retail should be lower, I'm not at all pissed off at the price.  It was my choice to buy them after three separate nearly one hour auditions.  I really did like them that much better than my HD650, which I sold with the Black Dragon cable for $500, so, not too bad.  Agreed, if I had to do it all over again, I would have ordered the LCD2 blind, but what the heck, I should have done more research up front.  

I'll end up with both....... Schiit Bifrost + Lyr + HD700 + LCD2 .......awesome....... when I started in HeadFi, I would never have dreamed that I would end up here.

 

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Originally Posted by jsplice View Post

Sorry, didn't mean to piss off anyone who has recently purchased them.  I'm sure there is some kind of price control that is going on with the LCD-2, because the retailer I bought them from has them listed specifically as an item than he can't negotiate on....you pay retail, or you don't get them.  I wouldn't have too much regret, the HD700s are good to my ears, and so are the LCD-2s.  I could be equally happy with either headphone, although I would personally pick the LCD-2 over the HD700 just based on my personal preference.  BUT, I would love to own both biggrin.gif


Edited by MickeyVee - 9/6/12 at 6:23pm
post #135 of 1792

here taxes cause headphones to routinely get priced about X1.5 more than their US MSRP counterparts after currency conversion
thats bad angry_face.gif

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