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post #1051 of 7128
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Great choice!

 

I should have no worries about a possible decrease in soundstage, detail, separation, or decay?

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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

 

I should have no worries about a possible decrease in soundstage, detail, separation, or decay?

 

In compare to the Magni/Modi?  No, not at all.  

 

In compare to the Magni, the Lyr is warm, punchy, and very "alive", IMO. 

post #1053 of 7128

I would also recommend the RSA HR-2. It's one of the older amps around but still excellent as good as anything at its price range.

 

I have been spending a lot more time with the HD700 and the ebay cable I mentioned here:http://www.head-fi.org/t/612502/sennheiser-hd-700-appreciation-thread/975#post_10135560

 

It really is an excellent cable, and makes the H700s sound perfectly balanced. Bass is deep and tight without being overblown, the mids are excellent and the problematic treble is now completely resolved - confirming my suspicion that it was the silver in the stock cable that was to blame for the emphasised treble. These cables are quite a bargain!

post #1054 of 7128
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

In compare to the Magni/Modi?  No, not at all.  

In compare to the Magni, the Lyr is warm, punchy, and very "alive", IMO. 

How does it play with the treble, clarity, and soundstage?
Edited by roguegeek - 1/11/14 at 7:01pm
post #1055 of 7128

I found the Magni unlistenable with the HD700.  It accentuated the peaks and sounded like razors my ears.  It lasted two weeks before I sold it. I found the Lyr with Amperex Orange Globes quite nice and listenable with an amazing soundstage.  If you're looking for something to tie you over for a while, I'd definitely recommend the Vali over the Magni. This is based on my HD800 listening with the Vali and my past experience with the Magni.

post #1056 of 7128

I was definitely happy with the Lyr (with Amperex OG's) / Bifrost Uber and HD700.  There are many times that I wish that I just stopped there but upgraditis got the best of me.  With the right tubes, you should be quite happy. Detail and soundstage were amazing, vocals were to die for and bass was amazing. The other option in the same price range is the Woo WA7.

 

 

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Obviously, there's a lot to work with here and I'm trying not to overwhelm myself (too late?), but I think I'm going to go with the Lyr paired with a Bifrost for now. This would be my first foray into the tube amps, which is another thing that excites me about this option. The only thing I'm worried about is decreasing any of the traits (soundstage, detail, separation, decay) that are making me wildly attracted to the HD 700 right now. Can anyone speak to this concern and offer thoughts?
post #1057 of 7128
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Originally Posted by Ross View Post
 

I would also recommend the RSA HR-2. It's one of the older amps around but still excellent as good as anything at its price range.

 

I have been spending a lot more time with the HD700 and the ebay cable I mentioned here:http://www.head-fi.org/t/612502/sennheiser-hd-700-appreciation-thread/975#post_10135560

 

It really is an excellent cable, and makes the H700s sound perfectly balanced. Bass is deep and tight without being overblown, the mids are excellent and the problematic treble is now completely resolved - confirming my suspicion that it was the silver in the stock cable that was to blame for the emphasised treble. These cables are quite a bargain!

Ross, thanks for that link last week by the way... I pulled the trigger on one of those and looking forward to giving it a go when it arrives.

post #1058 of 7128
So I was thinking WA7 at first, but everything I was reading with it made me think it was going to warm it up a little too much for my tastes (I like my signature on the brighter side). I also was trying to stay away from amp/dac combos because it will leave me with more flexibility in the future when I decide to play around more. Thoughts!
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I found the Magni unlistenable with the HD700.  It accentuated the peaks and sounded like razors my ears.  It lasted two weeks before I sold it. I found the Lyr with Amperex Orange Globes quite nice and listenable with an amazing soundstage.  If you're looking for something to tie you over for a while, I'd definitely recommend the Vali over the Magni. This is based on my HD800 listening with the Vali and my past experience with the Magni.

 

+1

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The Lyr is an all-rounder amp and pairs well with most of the headphones. 

post #1061 of 7128

The WA7 is the most SS sounding tube amp that I have heard especially with the upgraded EH tubes.  I really wouldn't worry about it warming up the HD700 too much.  You can use an external DAC as the RCA plugs on the back are switchable from output to input. I found it, for lack of a better term, much less warm that the SchiitLyr/Bifrost stack.  In fact, my current Naim setup sounds a little warmer than the WA7.  Go figure but it works for me.

 

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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

So I was thinking WA7 at first, but everything I was reading with it made me think it was going to warm it up a little too much for my tastes (I like my signature on the brighter side). I also was trying to stay away from amp/dac combos because it will leave me with more flexibility in the future when I decide to play around more. Thoughts!

Edited by MickeyVee - 1/11/14 at 9:16pm
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How about the WA6? Kinda like a dac-less WA7?
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I have to agree on the statement that the WA7 is the least warm tube amp I've every heard, though, I felt the EH tubes to add more to the bass, but still by no means warm. I found the Crack to be a lot warmer, but I preferred the WA7 for the HD700 because the HD700 didn't really need warmth, or it starts sounding dark. Now brighter headphones like the T90, I preferred on the Crack. I'm not too impressed by the DAC of the WA7. It's a $200-$300 DAC at best. It's pretty obvious most of the money was put into the amp part of the WA7, and you'll be hard to find any complaints on that from anyone. Never heard the WA6, but it has output transformers. I think I've heard that in general, output transformer coupled tube amps are less warm than output tranformerless tube amps, but don't quote me on that.

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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

...output transformer coupled tube amps are less warm than output tranformerless tube amps ...quote me on that.

Consider yourself quoted. wink.gif
post #1065 of 7128
I think what I'll probably do is pick up the Lyr next week (seems like it would work well with other cans I'll power as well), pair it with the Modi for now, then replace it with the Bifrost soon enough. I'll keep stock tubes for a while so I can se what $449 actually buys you, but I'm sure I'll also pick up a pair of Orange Globes in time since they are mention quite a bit in reference to the HD 700.

After all of this, who knows where it goes. Good talk guys. Thanks for the direction.
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