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post #601 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

What is the off chance that they actually improve especially in the mid range with what the dr ordered IF it was one or two people I would dismiss this burn in. But not only myself, dweaver but cute just mentioned it as well as Flysweep and very soon Eric as well. What is the chance that all of us are just experiencing brain burn in.. I still think your pair has not changed much but mine have. They don't have scooped out mid section like how I also heard them from open box any longer.

 

Listening to these on normal volume levels I don't think will work at all. But that is how I hear my pair. I don't doubt yours still have the scooped mids. It will be like that for a very long time if no burn in is happening. It doesn't damage anything. It just makes them sound better. Mine I can say has a very nice balance now actually. Better than most earphones I have heard. Bass has improved greatly too. All of it improves imo. Even if this improves 1% of what they are on open box. Isn't that 1% worth getting on these? I think so. I suppose we all have our "break in" method we all use so I am just mentioning what has been working for the guys that actually do this. No harm in trying it is my point.

 

One of the biggest changes IMO, with agressive burn in, is how the vocals have moved closer to the listening postition, quite so on good clean recordings.  I also like how backup vocals on the FXD80 can be pinpointed in their own separate space.  I can sense a lot of instraments with more detail, harp tone and clarity is very good.  As a whole all instraments are there in quality!  Any one in itself may be better on other IEM's, but as a whole, highs inparticular excel, where many other IEM's, not so good!


Edited by cute - 7/7/12 at 5:53pm
post #602 of 1852
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Okay, I concede that tomscy2000 has a valid point about something in the sound signature is missing from the D80 (and a lesser extent the D70). The track posted below is a classic solo song by the late great Temptations lead singer David Ruffin. Throughout the track in the left channel there is a fantastic reggae-style guitar strumming. It's barely audible in the D80. You can hear it more so in the D70, but not by that much. I know this because the reggae-style guitar strumming is one of my favorite sounds within this song. Now, if I listen to this song with my ASG-1.2, the guitar strumming is quite audible and prominent. This doesn't really bother me regarding the D80 and D70, but it is a factor to consider. I don't know if that frequency range will come in more prominently after significant burn-in or not.




I don't see any track posted below? Could it be because I am viewing it from my iPad?
post #603 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Sicilian0 View Post


I don't see any track posted below? Could it be because I am viewing it from my iPad?

 Could be, because I see it in your above post. 

post #604 of 1852
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Originally Posted by cute View Post

 

ericp10,  What do you think of the custom tips on these?  I had a significant change in sound quality at a little over 80hrs....I had the low end EQ's +3db, and I started getting too much bass, when I turned the EQ off I thought the bass was just right, tight more defined, and the mids were more forward, vocals especially, very similar to the CKM500's vocals.  Soundstage has been wide for me right from the start, but I'm using the custom tips, and "crossfeed", both make a big difference, IMO.  I do think Dsnuts was right about burn in on these, they keep getting better as the diaphram gets more loose!  I am continuing to evaluate, and closely watching the impressions unfold here!

Hello cute. I haven't tried it with the custom tips yet. I seems that it would an awkward fit. Plus, wouldn't it kind of defeat the purpose of how the JVC is designed? The driver, itself, is sitting in your ear canal. With the customs the sound has to travel through some sound tube. I may try it cute, but I don't expect it to be a sound improvement.

post #605 of 1852
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Originally Posted by cute View Post

 

ericp10,  I have that track in wav format and the reggae-style guitar strumming is there on my FXD80's in the same quantity as my RE272, CKM500, and my full size modded ATH-W1000X, could be that it is a wav file, my gears resolve differently, or that the ASG-1.2 is tuned differently for that frequency!

 

Great track buddy!

 

I guess the ASG-1.2 being tuned differently could be it, cute. I was listening to a 256K mp3 in my iTunes. I can hear it but faintly in the D80. A little better in the D70. But don't get me wrong, there are  other instruments (most electric and acoustic guitars, strings, bass, male vocals, and trumpet) that sound outstanding in the D80 (and pretty darn good in the D70 too).

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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

Ah, nice to see you got yours eric :3 It's especially nice to get some more detailed comparison between the 70 and 80.

 

They aren't perfect but at this point with their price I would find it hard to recommend anything else to anyone in terms of IEM's as long as they fit. My previous universal recommendation would have been the GR07.

 

I'd be really interested to see how much abuse these could take. I'm not putting my hands up for this, but I feel really confident just shoving these in my pocket and taking them around.

Thanks a_recording. Yeah, the D80 surpasses the GR07 clearly to my ears. I still own the GR07 though, so it's no slouch.

post #606 of 1852
Thanks Eric, that's what I thought!
post #607 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Sicilian0 View Post

Thanks Eric, that's what I thought!

 

 

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post #608 of 1852

Cute thanks for all of your tips suggestions, and for the few you have sent me. Much appreciated my friend!beerchug.gif

post #609 of 1852
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Hello cute. I haven't tried it with the custom tips yet. I seems that it would an awkward fit. Plus, wouldn't it kind of defeat the purpose of how the JVC is designed? The driver, itself, is sitting in your ear canal. With the customs the sound has to travel through some sound tube. I may try it cute, but I don't expect it to be a sound improvement.

 

ericp10,  The custom tips have worked for me better than any universal tips on every IEM that I have used them with......fit is just fine, they do stick out slightly more than with the stock tips.  I couldn't get a decent sound from the stock tips, no seal with the tips that were installed, and with the larger tips the bass was all bloated and ugly.  Custom tips gave me a thicker, richer note, better wider soundstage, 3D and separation!  I really like the CKM500's, but the instrament separation, refinement, and the highs are a step above with the FXD80.  I listen to a lot of acoustical stuff, female vocals, new age, jazz, country, rock......so some of the guys maybe wouldn't enjoy these with other genres!  They produce some of the best sound ever for me.  Going back to my RE272 after a session with these is quite a dissapointment.  I think this is what I was expecting the Sony XBA-4's to sound like, the FXD80 is so much better in the high end, IMO!  The ASG-1 that I had were a fit problem for me, the bump on the inside made them uncomfortable, really hurt after a while.  Really thought about the AS-2, sounds nice, but being a custom, they will be expensive expensive with no resale value.  I can like the CKM500 and FXD80 for quite a while, with their sound quality and price point.  Love the forward vocals on both!  Clannad, Enya, Loreena McKinnet, classical celtic music are all especially spectacular on the FXD80.  My source/gears are unlike any other and it just works for me!


Edited by cute - 7/7/12 at 11:30pm
post #610 of 1852

well, I ended up buying two IEM's that currently fit my tastes better than these, so I have put my pair up for sale along with a pair of FX40 in the FS section. Anyone interested in both pairs can PM me and I will give a discounted price for both. I must have weird ears or something because I just don't find the JVC sound to my tastes. Believe me I don't think it's the IEM's themselves, especially the FXD80 which I think is very well done. I just find them to be off for what I want in an IEM.

 

If the Phonaks I have on order don't meet my needs i may try the RE262 next unless I have decided the current roundup meets my needs.

 

As for all you JVC fans. Enjoy the heck out of these :-)

post #611 of 1852

How are the mids & instrument separation on this set?

post #612 of 1852
Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

 

I was pretty darn impressed by the ES10 when I heard it. If it had a single entry cable I'd be all over them. Did you ever try the ES88?

 

I did try the ES88, it seemed like an 'impressive' sounding headphone, which lulls you into it's enhanced sound until you notice the flaws.  So I thought it was 'just OK' from a quick listen.

post #613 of 1852

Dsnuts is this suitable for breaking-in the FXD80?  With b4ss b00st applied - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvaEmPQnbWk#t=2m54s just the last 45 seconds on repeat.

post #614 of 1852
Originally Posted by cute View Post
I really like the CKM500's, but the instrament separation, refinement, and the highs are a step above with the FXD80.  I listen to a lot of acoustical stuff, female vocals, new age, jazz, country, rock......so some of the guys maybe wouldn't enjoy these with other genres!  They produce some of the best sound ever for me.  Going back to my RE272 after a session with these is quite a dissapointment.  I think this is what I was expecting the Sony XBA-4's to sound like, the FXD80 is so much better in the high end, IMO!

 

Wait so you just said the FXD80 is a lot better than the CKM500, RE272 and XBA-4?

post #615 of 1852
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

Wait so you just said the FXD80 is a lot better than the CKM500, RE272 and XBA-4?

 

 

Yeah, I was like eek.gif  at that statement.

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