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post #1021 of 1814

thank you very much ERIC.

ill be placing an order now.

i already have the best in my collection right now - the miles davis tribute for bassy and mellow sound. the eph for that beautiful instrument separation. and now...this.

life's getting better and better!!!

I really missed that JVC-TIMBREliciousness!

 
post #1022 of 1814
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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post

thank you very much ERIC.

ill be placing an order now.

i already have the best in my collection right now - the miles davis tribute for bassy and mellow sound. the eph for that beautiful instrument separation. and now...this.

life's getting better and better!!!

I really missed that JVC-TIMBREliciousness!

 

If you love the JVC timbre, you won't be disappointed in the FXD80. You're welcome pinoyman.beerchug.gif

post #1023 of 1814

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post #1024 of 1814

So I got to a/b the FXD80 with an LCD-3 over the weekend on the O2+ODAC. Not a very fair comparison I know. But here's what I found.

 

The FXD80 has a definite v-shaped FR comparatively. The mids were very much behind the bass and treble, sounding distant and cold. The treble sounded less smooth on the FXD80 with more peaks and emphasis. I won't compare the sound stage since we're talking about a tiny iem vs a huge open headphone. The difference is what one would expect it to be, massively in favor of the LCD-3.

 

I threw the FXT90 and DBA-02 into the mix and found that the FXT90 had the most in common with the LCD-3's sound signature, but with more midbass and still less smooth treble. The LCD had a way of reproducing highs in a very clear and detailed way without being emphasized, which was very surprising to me coming from the world of iems. 

 

The DBA had less bass than the LCD-3, and a bit more in the top end, but overall held up very well when comparing realism in cymbals and other high-frequency instruments. 

 

I also heard a lot of other high end cans, and probably spent the most time with the Stax SR009, with the HD800 in close second. The overall trend imo is that high end cans have a more even frequency response than the DBA, FXT90, and FXD80, and that the FXD80 is pulling a few tricks by amping up the treble to simulate detail that it otherwise might not have. It would be very interesting to see an attempt at a more neutral carbon nanotube driver.

 

Ultimate Ears was demoing their entire line-up too, so a comparison to the UE reference monitor was in order. I wasn't able to directly a/b, but first impressions of the RM was that it sounded congested, was light on bass and light on treble. They were most like the DBA but without the spike in the highs, resulting in a much less fatiguing top end. Bass impact was similar to the DBA, but seemed to affect the mids negatively. While difficult to describe, the RM as a whole sounded artificially smooth, without much of the dynamics, peaks and impacts of a live performance. More time for comparison would be needed to confirm this, however.

 

The FXD80 in comparison is basically the total opposite of the RM. Much more bass and much more treble, with impact and peaks showing themselves though loud cymbal hits and emphasized bass. The soundstage of the FXD80 also sounds wider to me.

 

It's difficult to come to a conclusion after such a confusing experience. With so much new information it seems unfair to try and make sense of it all without prolonged exposure to each offering. I was initially very disappointed with the FXD80 after making these comparisons, but there is surely much more for me to learn about how iems differ from full-sized headphones.  

post #1025 of 1814

A good full size earphone is truly a revelation, just in terms of the scale of the sound alone. The JVC is never going to come off well in comparison. XD

 

I brought the FXD80 to the recent Sydney Head-fi meet and most people were pretty impressed by the sound, but most people also wished for a more neutral frequency response. Everyone immediately picked up on the defining characteristic of the IEM, which was the elevated bass. Pretty much everyone overwhelmingly preferred the EX1000 I brought, and I understand completely where people are coming from when they say the EX1000 sounds far more natural. (Actually, I've just ordered an MDR 7550 just to settle the EX1000 vs 7550 question for myself once and for all). I keep swapping between my IEMs myself, as I always find myself drawn to the bombastic FXD80 and then jumping back to the beautiful reproduction of the EX100 series (and the XBA-4 for a bit of bizarro world magic). 

 

As I said, my opinions on the JVC pretty much reflect the graphs. It's far from flat or neutral, the biggest issue probably being those scooped mids. It's a terrifically fun coloration though paired with some good technicalities, and I for one would snap up any high end version of the same driver in a heartbeat.

post #1026 of 1814

I've been offline for a little over two weeks.

 

The FXD80 is really good with action movies.

post #1027 of 1814

I agree with the black levels comments.  I think the blackness pertains to the imaging, holography or dynamics somehow, not necessarily the fault in the mids or spike in the highs.

 

The bass seems fairly even to me for a low cost IEM, I mean if you compare this to EX300, EX500 etc.

 

Someone said if this costed $400 how would we receive it?  Well that is a good question, I still prefer my Sony EX700 to it for example.

post #1028 of 1814
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I've been offline for a little over two weeks.

 

The FXD80 is really good with action movies.


LoL, after 2 weeks that's all you got for us??? MORRRRRRRR!!!

 

Expected something along the lines of a carefully crafted essay or something, mad disappoint. biggrin.gif

post #1029 of 1814

Oh, I have a small essay in my head which I'd like to write when I have time, I haven't burnt them in very much or used an amplifier with them yet so my impressions are still limited to my Xperia Ray phone, Teclast T51, laptop / RealTek, in-flight movie system.

 

I have a hunch it's an IEM which will sparkle with the right amplification.

 

p.s. looks like the S500 thread exploded, over 500 unread posts.

post #1030 of 1814
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Oh, I have a small essay in my head which I'd like to write when I have time, I haven't burnt them in very much or used an amplifier with them yet so my impressions are still limited to my Xperia Ray phone, Teclast T51, laptop / RealTek, in-flight movie system.

 

I have a hunch it's an IEM which will sparkle with the right amplification.

 

p.s. looks like the S500 thread exploded, over 500 unread posts.

Nice, Nice.

Half of those 500 posts were mine heeeeee.

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, my FXD70 finally came, gonna pick it up from friends place tomorrow. 

post #1031 of 1814

1st impression of the FXD70's with zero burn in.

 

TBH was initially a little bit underwhelmed coming from the more bassy sound of the FX40's. These FXD70's were so soft sounding when I turned the volume in which I normally listen to the FX40/101's at.  So had to crack it up couple of notches on my ipod classic/ nano.  The FX40/ 101's are pretty loud at 50 to 65 %, but these FXD70's needs to be turned up to the upper 60s to 70s to get the same level of sound. The bass of the FXD70's is definitely not as big as the 40s, so I was initially asking myself "where's DAT BASS"? Hence my initial disappointment. The bass is just slightly less then that of the FX40s but would have been great if it was bigger, hence a total upgrade. ahahaha <3 DAT BASS. 

 

BUT, as I was tip rolling and began to really listen to them, the FXD70's seems to have a slightly thicker and more lush sound as compared to the FX40s. Instrument separation and overall sound is more refined on the FXD70. And most importantly there is very little to ZERO sibilance or harsh highs. Songs that would normally rape my ears on the FX40s due to poor mastering sounds just as good as the well mastered ones. You can still hear the Ssss, Ttttt etc but it isn't as harsh (and that's at zero burn in), so the sound signature of these 70s are a lot less revealing and more forgiving.  It can basically take on anything you throw at it and makes it sound sooooo sweet.  This was what I was searching for that was lacking in the FX40s.  BIG THANKS to DannyBai for your feedback regarding sibilance/ highs on these FXD70s, you were right on the money!    

 

The stock tips provides an alright sound/ seal like a lot of you'll had mentioned, so I tired a couple of different tips. The foam tips that came with my FX40s sounds pretty good on the FXD70s, as well as the stock medium tips from the FX101s. The best fit/ sound I got was from the Auvio tips from radio shack, so thanks for the heads up on those guys. Also I found that they are most comfortable worn over the ears, cuz the big strain relief thing makes my ear sore after a short time.  Pretty damn happy with these, cuz it's exactly what I was looking for that was lacking in the FX40s, just wish MORRRR BASS. ha  But I got that area covered with the S500s. biggrin.gif

 

Thanks for all of your recs/ feedbacks!!!  Now time to beat them nanotubes down to submission, although I am already happy with the way they sound on open box. LoL

 

P.S. wish they were more chromed out, would look so much more BOSS. 


Edited by sfwalcer - 8/21/12 at 5:52pm
post #1032 of 1814

Opened up my JVC HA-S500's and made a quick unboxing video.

 

So far on second song, these are not up to my expectations.

post #1033 of 1814
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Opened up my JVC HA-S500's and made a quick unboxing video.

 

So far on second song, these are not up to my expectations.

 

Yup, they're pretty raw out of the box    ....you just got to cook them properly !

post #1034 of 1814
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

1st impression of the FXD70's with zero burn in.

 

TBH was initially a little bit underwhelmed coming from the more bassy sound of the FX40's. These FXD70's were so soft sounding when I turned the volume in which I normally listen to the FX40/101's at.  So had to crack it up couple of notches on my ipod classic/ nano.  The FX40/ 101's are pretty loud at 50 to 65 %, but these FXD70's needs to be turned up to the upper 60s to 70s to get the same level of sound. The bass of the FXD70's is definitely not as big as the 40s, so I was initially asking myself "where's DAT BASS"? Hence my initial disappointment. The bass is just slightly less then that of the FX40s but would have been great if it was bigger, hence a total upgrade. ahahaha <3 DAT BASS. 

 

BUT, as I was tip rolling and began to really listen to them, the FXD70's seems to have a slightly thicker and more lush sound as compared to the FX40s. Instrument separation and overall sound is more refined on the FXD70. And most importantly there is very little to ZERO sibilance or harsh highs. Songs that would normally rape my ears on the FX40s due to poor mastering sounds just as good as the well mastered ones. You can still hear the Ssss, Ttttt etc but it isn't as harsh (and that's at zero burn in), so the sound signature of these 70s are a lot less revealing and more forgiving.  It can basically take on anything you throw at it and makes it sound sooooo sweet.  This was what I was searching for that was lacking in the FX40s.  BIG THANKS to DannyBai for your feedback regarding sibilance/ highs on these FXD70s, you were right on the money!    

 

The stock tips provides an alright sound/ seal like a lot of you'll had mentioned, so I tired a couple of different tips. The foam tips that came with my FX40s sounds pretty good on the FXD70s, as well as the stock medium tips from the FX101s. The best fit/ sound I got was from the Auvio tips from radio shack, so thanks for the heads up on those guys. Also I found that they are most comfortable worn over the ears, cuz the big strain relief thing makes my ear sore after a short time.  Pretty damn happy with these, cuz it's exactly what I was looking for that was lacking in the FX40s, just wish MORRRR BASS. ha  But I got that area covered with the S500s. biggrin.gif

 

Thanks for all of your recs/ feedbacks!!!  Now time to beat them nanotubes down to submission, although I am already happy with the way they sound on open box. LoL

 

P.S. wish they were more chromed out, would look so much more BOSS. 

 

 

 

Nice impressions. I don't think the FXD70 was designed to have as much bass as the FX40. I think it was meant to be a more neutral yet detailed  and refined IEM (and it is that). With stated, I would never call the FXD70 bass-lite. Actually there is some wonderful detailed bass that can reach deep when called for, whereas the FX40's bass seems to always be on. I do like the FX40 a lot (and for the price it's simply amazing), but the FXD70 and FXD80 has levels of refinement and details that the FX40 can't touch. All three are excellent, however, for different reasons. Thanks again for the impressions. The last couple of days the FXD70 has been in my ears. I think they are wonderful. Yet, as with the FXD80, you need tip roll and also play around with insertion depth to get the best bass (and overall sound) out of this IEM.

post #1035 of 1814
Originally Posted by Ghostfit View Post

 

Yup, they're pretty raw out of the box    ....you just got to cook them properly !

 

Haven't really experienced burn-in in the past but I'll try. ;)

 

I've only experienced break-in, like all HP's with leather pads seem to change in sound later. =)

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