Denon Officially Announces Its New Headphones! - Page 60

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Originally Posted by Amperial 

 

That's how it should be.

 

Those are like Beats on audiophile marketing.

I'll rather get the Beats mixrs instead of D7100s.

 

Prices should be like 250€ for the D600 and maybe like 500€ on the D7100.

 

 

The Denon D400s Urban Raver went from 319€ to a hipster price of 159€.

That already shows how worth they are overall.

I think those prices seem a lot better and probably would make these somewhat competitive. Due to the comfort and somewhat better than apple buds SQ of the D600, I wouldn't mind picking up a pair for travel at around $150.

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Originally Posted by WiR3D 

Mmm sounds good to me, the only 2 things I am curious about is sibilance and build quality.

Sibilance is non-existent.  Some (myself) would say it is darn near impossible with this unit.  Build quality is very, very good.  The thing feels tough, like it will last, and seems reasonably shock proof as well.

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead 

Interesting.

 

I'm hardly a bass head.. but for exercising it might be okay.  I'm obviously not going to expect the best quality for working out, but something better than a cheap wired IEM might be nice.

 

Thanks for the input

The good thing about the bass is that it makes up for LF microphonics from impact sports or cardio.  So while I wouldn't necessarily say its good for just chillin' out, I can see why they went that way for exercise reasons.

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Originally Posted by Amperial 

I'll rather get the Beats mixrs instead of D7100s.

When you auditioned the two, did you use the same gear in your signal path?  Also how long did you burn-in the D7100 for?  For me, 120 hours of pink noise at -15dB changed the signature far more than I thought it would.  I haven't heard the Mixr though so I can't compare the two.

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Originally Posted by warrenpchi 

 

Sibilance is non-existent.  Some (myself) would say it is darn near impossible with this unit.  Build quality is very, very good.  The thing feels tough, like it will last, and seems reasonably shock proof as well.

 

 

The good thing about the bass is that it makes up for LF microphonics from impact sports or cardio.  So while I wouldn't necessarily say its good for just chillin' out, I can see why they went that way for exercise reasons.

 

 

When you auditioned the two, did you use the same gear in your signal path?  Also how long did you burn-in the D7100 for?  For me, 120 hours of pink noise at -15dB changed the signature far more than I thought it would.  I haven't heard the Mixr though so I can't compare the two.

My opinion on workout IEM's is they should be forgiving, energizing (hence bass heavy) and have no distracting factors like sibilance, they should also be tough.

If it has all of that, I'll dig it.

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Originally Posted by WiR3D 

My opinion on workout IEM's is they should be forgiving, energizing (hence bass heavy) and have no distracting factors like sibilance, they should also be tough.

 

If it has all of that, I'll dig it.

Then lemme just say that you'll dig these... and that they are highly "energizing". 

I read that they have connectivity issues if the transmitting unit is below one's waist.

Seems silly... I suppose it should still work for exercise though.  It's not like I'd take these HPs other places.

Almost makes you want them to sound a little subpar so they stay as your exercise phone, right ;)
 

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead 

I read that they have connectivity issues if the transmitting unit is below one's waist.

 

Seems silly... I suppose it should still work for exercise though.  It's not like I'd take these HPs other places.

 

Almost makes you want them to sound a little subpar so they stay as your exercise phone, right ;)

  So distance is not a factor, but proximity to the groin area is?  Wonder what kind of circuitry makes that happen, because I could think of a few other (more valuable uses) for such technology.

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Originally Posted by warrenpchi 

 

  So distance is not a factor, but proximity to the groin area is?  Wonder what kind of circuitry makes that happen, because I could think of a few other (more valuable uses) for such technology.

Proximity to groin area - what a way to keep your daughters boyfriend in check

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Originally Posted by WiR3D 

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Originally Posted by warrenpchi 

  So distance is not a factor, but proximity to the groin area is?  Wonder what kind of circuitry makes that happen, because I could think of a few other (more valuable uses) for such technology.

Proximity to groin area - what a way to keep your daughters boyfriend in check

See what I mean?  That - linked to a taser system - would be a best seller with dads everywhere. 

Haha, nice fellas.

Yea, I don't know if it has to do with internal body circuitry or what... but bluetooth is just a radio wave.

Users have reported that this occurs though, as well as Denon including a reminder that this is the case.

Seems strange
 

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead 

Haha, nice fellas.

 

Yea, I don't know if it has to do with internal body circuitry or what... but bluetooth is just a radio wave.

 

Users have reported that this occurs though, as well as Denon including a reminder that this is the case.

 

Seems strange
 

Maybe it has something to do with the general construction.  The unit has some serious silicone skin stuff on it - probably for g-shock protection and water-proofing.  But at the same time, it doesn't feel too bulky.  My guess is that this silicone was overmolded on top of some kind of aluminum superstructure on the inside.  Depending on where they placed the Bluetooth radio receiver on the inside, it may have a general issue with transmitters that are located below the unit?  Just a theory of course...

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Originally Posted by warrenpchi 

 

Maybe it has something to do with the general construction.  The unit has some serious silicone skin stuff on it - probably for g-shock protection and water-proofing.  But at the same time, it doesn't feel too bulky.  My guess is that this silicone was overmolded on top of some kind of aluminum superstructure on the inside.  Depending on where they placed the Bluetooth radio receiver on the inside, it may have a general issue with transmitters that are located below the unit?  Just a theory of course...

For sure.

Either way, I might bite.  It's not like my media player is in my pocket during a run

EDIT - I'm going to guess you haven't been able to reproduce these results or haven't experienced any dropout in general?

The Moto S11 looks like a really tough competitor.

I think I'm leaning hard that way....

I'll certainly place my impressions somewhere if I do end up going that route
 

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead 

 

Either way, I might bite.  It's not like my media player is in my pocket during a run

 

EDIT - I'm going to guess you haven't been able to reproduce these results or haven't experienced any dropout in general?

Yeah, I agree, an armband would be essential.  Running with a DAP in the pocket results in entirely too much something-heavy-bouncing-in-my-pocket irritation. 

I personally have not experienced a drop out... but then again, I don't think I had my phone more than two feet away during the entire audition.  So, can't use me as a representative example there.

It's really the below-the-waist thing that cracks me up.  Since it implies specific positioning rather than proximity. 

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead 

The Moto S11 looks like a really tough competitor.

Haven't heard it...

Just got me an S11 for exercise use.  I'll post some impressions somewhere as I use it for exercise and get used to its sound.

Initial impressions is that connectivity is solid.. and built-in preset EQ functions are kinda nifty

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead 

Just got me an S11 for exercise use.

  Did the Denon deal expire?