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Jh 16 vs Jh 13 vs Heir 8.A

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Hey all.  I'm new here but been reading the forums and reviews for years.  Right now I have Beyerdynamic Dt880 open ear headphones and future sonics universal in ear monitors as well as rokit 8 for reference monitors/computer speakers.  I'm a drummer and looking to get a bit better of an in ear monitor.  I play alot of death metal and listen to alot as well.  I also love jazz, reggae, classical and all other sorts of music.  I've read some reviews and posts about the Jh 16, Jh13 and Heir 8.a.  I'm trying to make up my mind between them.  I have a very discerning ear and like a neutral sound which I hear the JH 13 has.  I don't like things too bassy especially for death metal as their is often alot goin on and speakers that deliver too much bass often muddy up the mix and take away from the songs. 

 

From what i've read the JH 16 has excessive bass but i'm also interested potentially because they have alot of headroom down their and often death metal has alot of bass and it destorts in many speakers because of how fast it is and how many notes coupled with very low tunings.  I'm curious as to what the differences are between the three, how excessive the jh 16 bass is since I prefer a more analytical neutral sound and how the Heir compares to them.  I will be using these for personal music listening as well as band practice, live and to play along to music with in order to practice drums.  How do these three compare for music listening and for live monitoring.  What are your preferences and why.  Price isn't so much of a concern.  Lastly how do they differ  in terms of being able to hear music accurately with alot of outside noise.  Does having the extra bass drivers of the jh 16 help?  Does having a more neutral accurate sound allow lower volumes and protect hearing?

 

Any help is appreciated!!

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Forgot to mention.  I also like having a good wide soundstage.  How do the soundstages on these three compare? 

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First off, Project86's review encompasses the comparisons and contrasts between the JH13 and the Heir Audio 8.A so you might want to check that out.  

 

And here's a quote from his review.

 

"Soundstage is really incredible when played with a decent source and quality music. It’s among the most expansive and accurate soundstage reproduction I’ve yet heard in a custom IEM. I can clearly distinguish the width and depth of the performance venue. The whole thing is just a bit less intimate than some others – again, the unique “full-size headphone” style presentation."

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First off, Project86's review encompasses the comparisons and contrasts between the JH13 and the Heir Audio 8.A so you might want to check that out.  

 

And here's a quote from his review.

 

"Soundstage is really incredible when played with a decent source and quality music. It’s among the most expansive and accurate soundstage reproduction I’ve yet heard in a custom IEM. I can clearly distinguish the width and depth of the performance venue. The whole thing is just a bit less intimate than some others – again, the unique “full-size headphone” style presentation."


Where can I find said review?

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IEMs have wide soundstages now? Compared to any other iem, yes they are relatively wider but that's splitting hairs in my opinion. My MS Pro has a wider and more expansive soundstage than the JH13 Pro.

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IEMs have wide soundstages now? Compared to any other iem, yes they are relatively wider but that's splitting hairs in my opinion. My MS Pro has a wider and more expansive soundstage than the JH13 Pro.

 

Well he probably means as wide as any IEM will get. There are fairly big differences in soundstage between different universal IEM's.

 

Obviously a headphone will have a more expansive soundstage. 

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Originally Posted by Pepito View Post

 

Well he probably means as wide as any IEM will get. There are fairly big differences in soundstage between different universal IEM's.

 

Obviously a headphone will have a more expansive soundstage. 


This is what I meant. Does anyone know which are best for death metal/metal listening and performance?

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