I agree. The ODAC and O2 are definitely not the only neutral devices on the market. They're simply the ones I chose.
Unfortunately, by attempting to point out a series of misconceptions, I seem to have blasphemed against someone's "I don't know but I must be right" religious cult. Again.
What the heck are you talking about?
religious cult? A little bit over dramatic aren't we?
What's just as bad are those that think all neutral devices must sound exactly the same if they measure flat.
Then they claim they know exactly what something sounds like without actually having tried it.
FYI nobody here is claiming they're right, but just trying to figure out what causes all the changes we're hearing. Nothing wrong with that.
What's more cult-like are those that think the ODAC is so transparent that everything that sounds very slightly different must obviously be colored.
You said you're you're "just trying to figure out what causes all the changes [you're hearing]", but then reject obvious, correct explanations. To avoid future disagreements, I'll stop replying to your posts. I apologize for offending you.