way to completely miss the point of a pretty simple short, clearly worded post.. congrats thats quite an achievement
actually no, i'm guessing you havent actually spent much time with any of the cans you mention, perhaps just read some reviews, or at a meet and you definitely havent spent much time with both HD600 and HD650 at the same time
did I compare to any of these? NO
Would you say the HD650's are faster and less dark than the HD800's: NO
no I wouldnt, thank god, the hd800 are bright and with some rigs/source material harsh and unlistenable with a completely unnatural soundstage
Would you say the HD650's are faster and less dark than the Beyer T1's: NO
yes, I would, I didnt like the t1 at all, very pretty but thats about all
Would you say the HD650's are faster and less dark than the HE6's: NO
and the point is?
Would you say the HD650's are faster and less dark than the LCD-2's: NO
faster no, but I would call hd600 pretty darn similar as far as tonality and the major difference between 600 and 650 is in text on these forums
Would you say the HD650's are faster and less dark than any Ultrasone,grado,AKG etc etc: NO
yes yes yes, faster, more natural and less dark than every single ultrasone ive ever heard including ed9, ed8, ed10, which are all tuned pretty bloody dark (with a bit of added tizz), completely meh and despite the exterior, 100% plastic. less bright than every bright AKG i've ever heard? absolutely most AKG are pretty clinical and lacking proper bass presence. the only AKG i've heard that didnt are the 240 with a proper amp
do the hd6XX have slightly more bass than completely neutral? yes they do, but so do more than half of the headphones you mention above, however driven properly extension is not bad at all and mids are all there in proper measure not recessed in the slightest, so to call them dark is false, slightly rolled off in the very upper registers? yes, but its pretty minor
Missed the point... ha don't think so.
No I haven't spent ANY time with the HD600 & HD650's at the same time BUT that is Irrelevant because that is not the point because I never referred to any comparison to the HD600's. So I think it is YOU who as missed the point.
Haven't spent much time with the cans mentioned? Seriously!
I own the T1's,LCD2.2's, and HE6. I have owened the K701 and Untrasone ALO-780's AND I have owned the HD650's twice. So please check my sig before resorting to silly misguided comments.
I have not heard the HD800's and your opinion of those mirror what I expect to to hear if I did but really do you consider the HD650's faster and brighter (less dark) than the T1's. If so then you must be in a very small minority. Whether you like the T1's or not is not the point of this discussion.
And really are you saying that you consider the HD650's (the topic of this discussion not the HD600, which I have not heard) brighter and faster than K701 or Ultrasone which have a reputation for being bright and fast.
Is this a joke? is it April fools already?
And no IMO the HD650's do not have more bass than strictly neutral. Upper bass maybe but less midbass and very little very deep bass. So overall NO
Edited by nigeljames - 8/30/12 at 3:11am