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Poll Results: Which one is better?

 
  • 48% (130)
    Hifiman HE-6
  • 51% (138)
    Audeze LCD-3
268 Total Votes  
post #211 of 405

Yep, the sound is kinda fuzzy on the pleather pad.

post #212 of 405
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

Agreed but with all other phones it's mainly a case of synergy and SQ, with the HE6's it's synergy, SQ and POWER.

 

Ok, almost 100 hours of break-in on the HE-6...

 

First of all, I am not qualified to critique or offer any advice, but my thoughts so far-

 

Bass- Both are excellent but maybe HE-6 more precise and controlled?  Both go deep but the HE-6 seems to go slighter lower?

Treble- HE-6 offers more air and sparkle, not harsh at all with my set-up.  LCD3 slightly rolled off but not by much.  

Midrange- Both headphones excellent but the HE-6 offers a more forward presentation.  LCD3 is laid back as compared.

Soundstage- LCD3 may offer a "slightly" wider sound stage.  HE-6 more focused, vocals and instruments seem to be better placed within the soundstage?. 

Detail- I feel the HE-6 offers more.  Blacker background if such a thing? 

Overall tone balance- Top to bottom, both headphones lack nothing.  I feel HE-6 offers a slightly better balance with its not so laid back midrange.

 

The LCD3 offers a sweet (syrupy) sound?  Much more forgiving to equipment and source.  Easy to drive.

I think the HE-6 are lively, more accurate and truer to the source.  If your equipment is not up to par, or the source or cd is not great, you are going to hear it! 

 

If I had to pick one over the other, it would be difficult.  Both are great. 

With the right equipment and necessary amplification on HE-6, I think it offers a more precise and accurate sound.

The LCD3 is MUCH more easily driven and with its slightly rolled off treble, will sound better with most set-ups.

 

Bottom line, I think it depends on the rest of your equipment.

 

nigeljames-  you were right on sir!  With the HE-6, its about synergy, equipment and power.


Edited by CorvetteGarage - 4/22/13 at 9:25am
post #213 of 405
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Originally Posted by CorvetteGarage View Post

 

Ok, almost 100 hours of break-in on the HE-6...

 

First of all, I am not qualified to critique or offer any advice, but my thoughts so far-

 

Bass- Both are excellent but maybe HE-6 more precise and controlled?  Both go deep but the HE-6 seems to go slighter lower?

Treble- HE-6 offers more air and sparkle, not harsh at all with my set-up.  LCD3 slightly rolled off but not by much.  

Midrange- Both headphones excellent but the HE-6 offers a more forward presentation.  LCD3 is laid back as compared.

Soundstage- LCD3 may offer a "slightly" wider sound stage.  HE-6 more focused, vocals and instruments seem to be better placed within the soundstage?. 

Detail- I feel the HE-6 offers more.  Blacker background if such a thing? 

Overall tone balance- Top to bottom, both headphones lack nothing.  I feel HE-6 offers a slightly better balance with its not so laid back midrange.

 

The LCD3 offers a sweet (syrupy) sound?  Much more forgiving to equipment and source.  Easy to drive.

I think the HE-6 are lively, more accurate and truer to the source.  If your equipment is not up to par, or the source or cd is not great, you are going to hear it! 

 

If I had to pick one over the other, it would be difficult.  Both are great. 

With the right equipment and necessary amplification on HE-6, I think it offers a more precise and accurate sound.

The LCD3 is MUCH more easily driven and with its slightly rolled off treble, will sound better with most set-ups.

 

Bottom line, I think it depends on the rest of your equipment.

 

nigeljames-  you were right on sir.  With the HE-6, Its mainly about synergy, equipment and power.

 

Whoa I finally got something right biggrin.gif

 

Seriously thanks for the review. I like my LCD2.2's but ATM I love the HE-6's. I was thinking of getting the LCD3's but now I think I will stay with the LCD2.2's.

post #214 of 405
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Originally Posted by 711er View Post

If we are not talk about the price at all, the LCD3 is a all around better headphone

however, with price in mind, HP6 is much better way to go

My opinion isn't the same. I don't know if you've owned both, but I have had them side-by-side with the HD800's for about 3 months and ultimately sold off the LCD3 and kept the two others. Yes, it depends on the user's preferences, but I won't be the first to say the HE-6 scales higher than the LCD3 and arguably the HD800's.

 

The HE-6 is very special on higher end amps; but there is not a single headphone amp that can show off its best capabilities like a higher end speaker amp; not one.

 

Also note, I'm using LCD-3 pads with the HE-6 which really opens up the sound, improves the highs extension and removes some grain, but all this at the expense of a bit of bass. With proper/synergizing amplification, it's quite special.


Edited by dleblanc343 - 4/22/13 at 11:31am
post #215 of 405
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Originally Posted by 711er View Post

If we are not talk about the price at all, the LCD3 is a all around better headphone

however, with price in mind, HP6 is much better way to go

 

I think that would be personal choice and if some one does not like the LCD's character then there is no chance they would prefer the LCD3's over the HE6's.

post #216 of 405
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Originally Posted by 711er View Post

If we are not talk about the price at all, the LCD3 is a all around better headphone

however, with price in mind, HP6 is much better way to go

I dont agree.  Im not factoring in the cost of the headphones, only the sound. 

 

You really cant say one is better than the other.  The end result depends alot on the equipment used.

post #217 of 405
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

 

 

The HE-6 is very special on higher end amps; but there is not a single headphone amp that can show off its best capabilities like a higher end speaker amp; not one.

 

 

 

Listening to the 6 through a tubed high-end linestage paired with a tubed high-end speaker amp and with a TOTL hi-rez source is an exquisite listening experience.

post #218 of 405
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

My opinion isn't the same. I don't know if you've owned both, but I have had them side-by-side with the HD800's for about 3 months and ultimately sold off the LCD3 and kept the two others. Yes, it depends on the user's preferences, but I won't be the first to say the HE-6 scales higher than the LCD3 and arguably the HD800's.

 

The HE-6 is very special on higher end amps; but there is not a single headphone amp that can show off its best capabilities like a higher end speaker amp; not one.

 

Also note, I'm using LCD-3 pads with the HE-6 which really opens up the sound, improves the highs extension and removes some grain, but all this at the expense of a bit of bass. With proper/synergizing amplification, it's quite special.

I had both the LCD-3 and HE-6 side by side for several months...but in the end the HE-6s are long gone as I stopped listening to them. The LCD-3s go lower (measurements back this up), the mids are more "rea" to my ears and the imaging is about equal between the two. It was the treble energy of the HE-6s that had me selling them. I found them brighter than my HD-800s (again...measurements back this up). I enjoyed the HE-6s, but in the end they just couldn't get as much right to my ears as the LCD-3s can.

post #219 of 405

Well, the measurements I don't really trust to be honest...either that or they're being misinterpreted. The LCD2 looks like it has deeper extension than the HE6 at first glance on the graphs (Innerfidelity), but the HE6 had way more force down low. Definitely the deepest most speaker-like bass I've heard from a headphone. The LCD2 was nothing in comparison. The difference wasn't subtle.

 

The HE6 also scale much higher than the LCD2. If we're using these same measurements to "prove" that the LCD3 has better extension than the HE6, then it holds no value for me. I can offer reasons for discrepancies in the measurements but I'd be speculating.

post #220 of 405
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post

Well, the measurements I don't really trust to be honest...either that or they're being misinterpreted. The LCD2 looks like it has deeper extension than the HE6 at first glance on the graphs (Innerfidelity), but the HE6 had way more force down low. Definitely the deepest most speaker-like bass I've heard from a headphone. The LCD2 was nothing in comparison. The difference wasn't subtle.

 

The HE6 also scale much higher than the LCD2. If we're using these same measurements to "prove" that the LCD3 has better extension than the HE6, then it holds no value for me. I can offer reasons for discrepancies in the measurements but I'd be speculating.

Not just the measurements... but listening experiences too. Combined you kinda have to really believe what you're hearing. I often use this Shahrose:

 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html

 

I found both the LCD-2 and LCD-3's extended lower with more "umph". smile.gif Hey, my doctor relies on measurements every day too. tongue.gif (Inside joke BTW).

post #221 of 405

I compared the LCD3 and HE-6 back to back for days... bass with HE-6 was better defined, and went deeper than LCD3. 

 

Long story short, sold the LCD3's tonight.  Sad to see them go, but the HE-6 did everything just a notch better in my system.

 

No doubt about it, associated equipment must have a big part in the sound.  You cant judge by graphs solely.

post #222 of 405
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Originally Posted by CorvetteGarage View Post

I compared the LCD3 and HE-6 back to back for days... bass with HE-6 was better defined, and went deeper than LCD3. 

 

Long story short, sold the LCD3's tonight.  Sad to see them go, but the HE-6 did everything just a notch better in my system.

 

No doubt about it, associated equipment must have a big part in the sound.  You cant judge by graphs solely.

Glad you found what you were looking for...but wrt going deeper:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD3sn2312488.pdf

vs.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE6.pdf

 

and on Headroom:

 

 

post #223 of 405

I'm just gonna leave this graph here deadhorse.gif

 

post #224 of 405

Thanks for the graph but my audio purchase decisions are made with my ears, not my eyes. 

Well, not totally true.  The equipment has to look cool! gs1000.gif

post #225 of 405
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

I'm just gonna leave this graph here deadhorse.gif

 

Let's not forget depth vs. quality. The LCD-3s have the DT1350s hands down. That said, the DT1350s do extend down pretty low (I used to own them).  And I would agree that the DT1350s (used to own them too) also go lower than the HE-6s, but I do prefer the bass quality of the HE-6s by a good margin.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 4/22/13 at 8:26pm
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