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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post


I see, I see... well reviews on new Egg still place it high, and they are mixed

 

Cnet seems to like it

 

Build happens in 40 mins...

 

What do you mean Build happens in 40 minutes?

 

Keep in mind there is also

Corsair

Steelseries

TTe Sports 

Cyborg

 

mouses you can look at.


Edited by bowei006 - 5/24/12 at 11:25am
post #242 of 328
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post


I see, I see... well reviews on new Egg still place it high, and they are mixed

 

Overclockersclub.net reviews where positive so I'm going with it, apparently it's been tested enough already so I'd better ignore the OCN bias and stick with the mainstream opinion, that opion is why i got my Zune, does it suck... not at all. Do I wish i had a D3 for less... you betcha! Still though, worth buying after looking around. And again, Amazon is cheaper than new egg :3

 

Cnet seems to like it

 

Build happens in 40 mins...


Indeed, there where 3 boxes shipper and mom got them all! So my PC is waiting for me to go and BUILD IT, so QUICK QUICK QUICK QUICK gimmie some TIPS

post #243 of 328
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

What do you mean Build happens in 40 minutes?

 

Keep in mind there is also

Corsair


*Face palme* Corsair M60 is same price free shipping and has all the features of the G500 without the negatvei feed back, thanks going with it now

 

<.< and once again amzon has it cheaper, total order dwn by $5 on amazon! I owe you one Bowei [I should reaserach it more, but Amazon and New Egg is plenty right now, plus it has w8 like the G500 and it's sexy'r]

 

YAY $67, that leaves me with $10 left, very nice

 

but yea I'm building my pc in 25 mins! The parts are in, my work station is ready, the OS is there! The build is going down in 25mins!

 

TIPS TIPS TIPS TIPS, build is in 20 mins. Leaving school now! Cya guys at the SHOP


Edited by Mshenay - 5/24/12 at 11:38am
post #244 of 328

Short steps. Not complete or conclusive.

 

After you get your stuff. Take a deep breath! It's here. Take out all your parts from the box and FIRST....put the newegg UPS box and all the other stuff somewhere and out of the way. And then place all your parts in a place.

 

Start with the case. Open it up and take off any plastics or styrofoam or anything and then lay it flat on the ground with the case side open so you can look in. Take a look and determine what you should do from here. Some cases require you to put your PSU in first. This could be due to room or DUE TO CABLE MANAGEMENT. Look at the routing slots. Make a mental note of where and how you will route your cables.

 

Take the bag of screws and standoffs from the case and place it somewhere.

 

Then go to your motherboard. Pull it out. Do whatever you want to oogle it for a minute or read the box and go gs1000.gif.

 

Ground yourself. Then take it out of it's anti static package and lay it on it's anti static package while you take out all the other mobo stuff. 

 

Now go to the case. Take the brass standoffs out and have it on hand. Slowly take your motherboard and lower it in CORRECTLY so the perephrial side matches the case(you don't need the perephrial sheild yet). Now make a mental note. You then need to raise your mobo and slowly put the brass standoffs in the case by the holes on the mobo. Some cases have markings that tell you which one is the ATX hole and which one is for micro ATX or others but some don't. I dont' remember if this did. Anyway, after you do this and get all the standoffs snuggly in place make a mental thought. DO YOU need to put the PSU in first? The answer 80% of the time should be no. So then lower your mobo in and see if it fits and all the holes match. Does it? Yes. then take the mobo out and put on the wrap again and take the perrephiral shield out and attach it to the case's perephrial hole

Q-shiels.jpg

 

Then  take the  mobo and put it in and make sure all the stuff fits through the perephrial shield and then screw it in place. You may have to push it towards the shield as teh shield may have metal prongs that push the mobo back a bit and so you need to apply some pressure to put it snuggly into the holes while screwwing it in.

 

Then read the manual and see how to connect the case buttons to the mobo pins.

 

After that you instal your CPU following instructions

 

Then you instal your RAM. Sometimes CPU heatsinks can block RAM but in your build it won't. Placing the two RAM sticks side by side next to each other in the same slot color or dimm series is usually recommended but if your computer won't post put it in a Dimm A1 Dimm B1 config.

 

Then you instal your HDD into the slotless thing. May take a few minutes to see how it works. Then do your ASUS drive.

 

Instal your PSU. Then take out cables will be needed and plug it into PSU and start routing. Take the back panel off the case on the other side and start routing. DO NOT PLUG YOUR PSU WIRE IN YET!. The one that attaches to your house plugs.

 

Then instal your GPU. Depending on what you did, a wire may get in the way of which you may have to take out some wires to make it fit or anything or do the GPU first and then PSU. Whatever works. Remember the GPU has two power slots you have to fill. Route your cables.

 

Do a final check that your CPU fan is plugged in. All the fans are plugged in, hard drive and any drives are plugged into SATA and also has a power cord(need both). Make sure your main power AND 4 PIN CPU POWER. Are both plugged in along with anything else. Do a survey of how many connectors you have left and room for further upgrade.

 

Do some more checks. 

 

 

And then plug the power cable in and boot. If it doesn't boot come back and ask us.

 

If it does. press the button to access your bios and set first read or boot to your DVD drive first and THEN your HDD. Disable anything else as having floppy selected can slow times. Open up your DVd drive. Pop windows in. And then restart your computer. Just press the power button or the pwer switch. This may take multiple trials to set yourr computer UEFI settings(almost said BIOS) and popping the disk in.

 

Then wait for Windows to instal!

post #245 of 328

HOW IS THAT FOR TIPS.

 

Just saying that you should not rush. Sadly it seemed you rushed with the mouse. However problems shouldn't be huge.

 

Features aren't everything. How it feels and performs in real world situation is very important. However if the reviews for the M60(I didn't look at any) were good and you liked then go for it.

 

Remember that if a company has a 5% error or product bad...ness. Then the more products they make. The more they will get wrong even though it's still small. If corsair and Logitech both had a 5% product error. Then it would look as if Logitech had more fault even though they had the same error percentage? Why? Logitech is bigger and sells A LOT LOT LOT more than Corsair and with that you will see more "problem" reviews which is why.

 

I'm buying Logitech no matter what next time. But hey. It will be my first time. Don't take any advice after I said "im buying logitech" everything before that is stuff you should remember but everything passed that is unfounded opinion. Corsair makes great products though.

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This list was fan opinion made hah so it doesn't mean anything. But many people like me prefer Logitech. I could tell after your reading you didn't want to get one and I didn't have the experience to back or actually put my "name down" on what you were buying unlike the computer.

post #247 of 328
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-.-, people at OCN tell me Logitech mouse SUCKS, it's crappily made, the cords fall apart easy and the drivers really suck, I mean SERISOULY there is not a whole lot of positive reviews on New Egg either for the G500... granted I like that it's got w8 to be added but <.< the REVIEWS are so bad for it, and OCN agree's... it's cheapily made materials...

 

Seriously though, for those of you who like the logitech mouse, convince me :3 because New Egg and OCN both say STAY AWAY

 

Also I owned my Cullinary Exam really easy next

 

STEP BY STEP MOBO instructions! Give me some basic steps you guys, numbered ect... I like principles so include them. In addition what ever other tips you have I'll take to! I've got a good range of Philips head sizes thankfully, but NO ANTI STATIC bracelet. Various videos suggest that if your in a dry area then it's a must, but they say you can simply ground your self on your case every few mins, which I'll be doing. Plus it's awfully humid here and I don't get shocked ever really

 

STILL step by STEP you guys! Got my mom's old Phone for Pics and Vids anyways... let's reaerach a good gaming mouse for <$60 and get some steps for assembly :3

THAT IS A BUNCH OF BS. Logitech makes some great mice! What are the noobs over there doing in the mouse section?! It's becoming corrupt!

 

There are people on OCN who actually do their research on mice. Right now they're a little like "anything with the ADNS-9500 sucks" just because it has positive acceleration. I don't like acceleration which is why I prefer optical because most optical works great and doesn't have much issues with acceleration. Right now they have a problem with LOD though instead which is the tradeoff. On some mice, it can be easily fixed with tape.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Thats bias right there. Just like on head fi of bravado hipster non conforming members. The reviews for their mouse are fine. Find me a company that Doesnt have any problems! Thermaltake has a subsidiary tte sports that makes some new mouses. Look at them. I dont remember reviews(real ones)
Did it arrive? Ill post some when I get home.

This. Noobs are starting to overrun the forum and they don't know how to learn.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

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This list was fan opinion made hah so it doesn't mean anything. But many people like me prefer Logitech. I could tell after your reading you didn't want to get one and I didn't have the experience to back or actually put my "name down" on what you were buying unlike the computer.

Inaccurate right there. The DeathAdder Black Edition should be at the top with the G400, and G500. The Zowei AM should be with the Storm Spawn I believe. The Xai and Sensei are in the right spot. The Naos 5000 should be up there with the Sensei and Xai but it's a lot more expensive. You also forgot the Sensei [RAW] which is a cut-down version of the Sensei but IMO it's better than the Sensei.

post #248 of 328
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

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This list was fan opinion made hah so it doesn't mean anything. But many people like me prefer Logitech. I could tell after your reading you didn't want to get one and I didn't have the experience to back or actually put my "name down" on what you were buying unlike the computer.

 

Why did they pick only the Death Adder and the Mamba from Razer? The one I use isn't even on there!

 

Anyway, with regards to serious gaming mice; specifications are nothing, how it feels in your hand and how precisely you can control it are everything. Any modern gaming mouse has more buttons and more dpi than you need (well, you might need the buttons if you play MMORPGs competitively

). Mine only has 1800 dpi, and when I had a 4000 dpi mouse it was more than I wanted. As for accessory buttons, once you get enough on the mouse that you can't trigger them all easily and reliably without looking, the extra ones are useless in the heat of the moment.

 

On the subject of Logitech and Corsair; I've used plenty of Logitech mice over the years, and I don't like their form factors. But they don't fall apart - they are a quality product, by and large. I've never used a Corsair peripheral, but I'm always slow to trust a product which branches out radically from the core offering of the company, which for Corsair is performance computer internals.

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@Hybrid.

 

I didn't make it. I just found it on facebook and saw it revelant and found lulz to post it. Plus you should have experience with a mouse before degrading it from what you have heard.

 

@Exediron

I agree with Logitech. They may not be perfect but they are an all in one company. Like FiiO. They are quality with great prices and while they may not be perfect in all fields, they balance out and provide a mouse or products that fit a whole wide range of people.

 

You can say that branching out is bad and there are PLENTY of examples on the net but it can also work WONDERS. Sapphire is branching out into Mobo's and so far it is working well and Corsair as well. As of right now Corsair is developing a good reputation.

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I can't really agree with corsair on performance for mice. They do make some great products, but they make highly binned ram which makes their products extremely expensive sometimes. What's binning? Well, in this it's product binning.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/exceleram_explains_ram_binning_process

 

Basically it's a QC test and when binning RAM it just basically ranks memory chips. Honestly, Corsair's RAM is overpriced sometimes and the tall heatsink isn't worth it IMO. There are other highly binned RAM for less like Samsung, G.Skill, or Mushkin. The Vengeance RAM is nice and inexpensive though.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

@Hybrid.

 

I didn't make it. I just found it on facebook and saw it revelant and found lulz to post it. Plus you should have experience with a mouse before degrading it from what you have heard.

 

@Exediron

I agree with Logitech. They may not be perfect but they are an all in one company. Like FiiO. They are quality with great prices and while they may not be perfect in all fields, they balance out and provide a mouse or products that fit a whole wide range of people.

 

You can say that branching out is bad and there are PLENTY of examples on the net but it can also work WONDERS. Sapphire is branching out into Mobo's and so far it is working well and Corsair as well. As of right now Corsair is developing a good reputation.

I actually tried a lot of them at Best Buy. Great mice.

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I actually tried a lot of them at Best Buy. Great mice.

Well trying and using while playing extendedly is a bit difference. Moding it's settings to fit your needs also changes impressions.

 

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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post

I can't really agree with corsair on performance for mice. They do make some great products, but they make highly binned ram which makes their products extremely expensive sometimes. What's binning? Well, in this it's product binning.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/exceleram_explains_ram_binning_process

 

Basically it's a QC test and when binning RAM it just basically ranks memory chips. Honestly, Corsair's RAM is overpriced sometimes and the tall heatsink isn't worth it IMO. There are other highly binned RAM for less like Samsung, G.Skill, or Mushkin. The Vengeance RAM is nice and inexpensive though.

Exactly. I choose the Vengence only because it was $45 and highly competetive with other RAM, had a heat spreader that looked nice, good frequency, and most importantly of all IT WAS CHEAP AND SEXY.

post #253 of 328
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Well trying and using while playing extendedly is a bit difference. Moding it's settings to fit your needs also changes impressions.

 

Exactly. I choose the Vengence only because it was $45 and highly competetive with other RAM, had a heat spreader that looked nice, good frequency, and most importantly of all IT WAS CHEAP AND SEXY.

Honestly, I don't like the look at all. I think it might be the ugliest piece of RAM I've seen. Well then again...I've seen worse. It's at a good price though. Right on par with G.Skill which is already considered some of the best when it comes to value.

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Honestly, I don't like the look at all. I think it might be the ugliest piece of RAM I've seen. Well then again...I've seen worse. It's at a good price though. Right on par with G.Skill which is already considered some of the best when it comes to value.

ಠ_ಠ

 

You are a minimalist sleek look guy. I am the super flashy type of guy. I have bought the super value G Skill Ram multiple times. About 5 if I recount correctly. It is great but the Vengence was too sexy and cheap to say no to.

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OCN is full of noobs, they don't know better go to hardforum for the real sh1t. I got banned year's (2006) for making a review on a nvidia graphics card well just my impressions on them and I said that it offered 2-6% more performance then the ATi 1950XTX. Next few hours later my thread got praised by nvidia fanboys and swamped by ati fan boys, I got banned for insulting another member which was unethical because he said crap in a PM to me. Anyway.....

 

From that chart, I'd put the Deathadder in the god tier, it's actually better then my G9 by leaps. I'd also put in the original MX518 and G5 in the God Tier as well.

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