Originally Posted by proton007
Hey, I doubt anyone here's against the iPod, and just because someone doesn't like certain aspects of iPod/iTunes doesn't make them a hater.
Why would I spend more than 3x on something if all I want is for it to play my music, and the difference is not night and day? The 8 GB nano retails for > $100 right now.
This is one of the reason why the Clip+ has a better reputation here.
If you have an iPod, no reason to change.
If you're out looking to buy a new player, the Sansa is a good option to consider, especially because it uses SDHC.
I love the fact that I can buy a 2GB Clip+ for $30 and put a $22 32GB microSDHC card in it, giving me a great $52 34GB player. One can also carry extra cards with them. Think about an extended trip with the Clip+, and bringing extra 32GB cards with audiobooks or podcasts on them.
Do I want a great 34GB player for $52, or an okay 16GB player(ipod) for $140?
Many hate using itunes, and love using the Clip+ in MSC mode.
Perhaps now some will say that the ipod Nano has 60% longer battery life than the Clip(officially listed as 24 hours vs 15 hours, although I guess people nomally get around 80% of this). Those who need longer battery life can buy a small usb battery pack to use with it. The Clip+ will play while it is charging via a usb battery pack or ac adapter. It will also play while charging from a pc if you use a power only usb cable(these come with usb battery packs).
Some interesting inexpensive usb battery packs are the Tekkeon mp1580(powered by 4 nimh AA batteries), the Veho Pebble(which has a built in lion battery), and the New Trent IMP60D(powered by a built in lion battery). The nice thing about the mp1580 is that if someone plans to be away from AC power for a long time they can bring extra sets of AA batteries to use in the Tekkeon mp1580. While others use it with alkalines, I only use mine with nimh rechargeables. I think these will all give at least 7 full charges of the Clip+ battery.