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post #61 of 81

The HD 700 are pretty good! http://www.head-fi.org/t/612250/comparing-some-of-the-finest-headphones-sennheiser-hd-600-hd-700-hd-800-hd-25-1-and-the-amperior-audio-technica-ath-m50s-audeze-lcd-2-rev-2-and-the-lcd-3

post #62 of 81

lcd 2's 

post #63 of 81
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Back OT, I'd highly recommend the AD2000 or the Pro 2900 which imo are a step above the DT 880 and K70x, quite a step I might add for a fraction of the price.

 

-Daniel

I agree!!! The Pro 2900s are great headphones. I'd say you can't go wrong with em. They are very inexpensive considering they can outperform or match any headphone under $1000. 

post #64 of 81
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I agree!!! The Pro 2900s are great headphones. I'd say you can't go wrong with em. They are very inexpensive considering they can outperform or match any headphone under $1000. 

I don't know about "any" (because I haven't heard "every") but they certainly hold their own with the ESPs and stand above a lot of other stuff in or around their price range (either MSRP or street). Very impressive imho.

Random question (since I see you're an owner) - what's the clamp force on your pair like, versus the HD 650? (I'm asking because the pair of PRO2900s I had on loan a while ago to try out felt like they wanted to crush my skull into powder).
post #65 of 81
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I don't know about "any" (because I haven't heard "every") but they certainly hold their own with the ESPs and stand above a lot of other stuff in or around their price range (either MSRP or street). Very impressive imho.
Random question (since I see you're an owner) - what's the clamp force on your pair like, versus the HD 650? (I'm asking because the pair of PRO2900s I had on loan a while ago to try out felt like they wanted to crush my skull into powder).
Great question.. My 2900s are not as comfortable as my hd650s only because of the weight. On the other hand the clamping force on the hd 650s is insane. Literally they feel like a vice. 2900s are not nearly as bad.
Now I only noticed this after using my Ed 10s for a week then dropping back down.

If you thought the 2900s were bad then the hd650s must be torture.
post #66 of 81
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Flagships are cheap, given the fact that the company need to survive, and there are development cost in count. I also believe the profit margin from flagships aren't like that much from lower model.

Flagships exist because they can - there are people willing to pay for them and there's a very sweet profit margin for the manufacturer. For companies like AKG and Sennheiser who have a strong product portfolio at all price points and markets they are not at all a question of survival but one of prestige. It's different for companies like Stax.

post #67 of 81
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Great question.. My 2900s are not as comfortable as my hd650s only because of the weight. On the other hand the clamping force on the hd 650s is insane. Literally they feel like a vice. 2900s are not nearly as bad.
Now I only noticed this after using my Ed 10s for a week then dropping back down.
If you thought the 2900s were bad then the hd650s must be torture.

Not at all, the 650/600/580s were very comfortable and provided an acceptable amount of grip, but they were clampier than the HFI-2400 (if memory serves). Tells me the 2900s I had were probably not "to spec" and it might be worth further investigation as something to own.

Thanks for the info. You beat Ultrasone in replying too (ironically I actually have been communicating with Ultrasone to get a line on this, since I've never handled another pair of 2900s, but every other HFI/PRO I've used in the last few years was nowhere near as aggressively fitting - I suspected a fault, but figured "well, maybe they don't want them to come off while you're doing "pro stuff" (rolleyes.gif) with them...").
post #68 of 81
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Not at all, the 650/600/580s were very comfortable and provided an acceptable amount of grip, but they were clampier than the HFI-2400 (if memory serves). Tells me the 2900s I had were probably not "to spec" and it might be worth further investigation as something to own.
Thanks for the info. You beat Ultrasone in replying too (ironically I actually have been communicating with Ultrasone to get a line on this, since I've never handled another pair of 2900s, but every other HFI/PRO I've used in the last few years was nowhere near as aggressively fitting - I suspected a fault, but figured "well, maybe they don't want them to come off while you're doing "pro stuff" (rolleyes.gif) with them...").
If you're looking to get a new set of ultrasones then why not get the signature pros? They're suppose to make the 2900s sound like beats.
post #69 of 81
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If you're looking to get a new set of ultrasones then why not get the signature pros? They're suppose to make the 2900s sound like beats.

I don't like leather/pleather/"sealed" pads or closed headphones. redface.gif

Very uh...unscientific. I know.
post #70 of 81

Could I get a Stax setup with a DAC for $550 used?

post #71 of 81
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Could I get a Stax setup with a DAC for $550 used?
STAX SRS-005S
That's your best bet. Happy hunting. It's $650 new
post #72 of 81
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STAX SRS-005S
That's your best bet. Happy hunting. It's $650 new

$650 for that???

post #73 of 81
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$650 for that???
You 're talking about getting into stax you better get ready to spend some money. I priced out one for myself and I'd have to spend $8,000-15,000.
post #74 of 81
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Could I get a Stax setup with a DAC for $550 used?

 

A while back I sold my Stax SR-202 with adapter for around $400 used (I got it for $450), so it's certainly not unfeasible.  Then again, there was a reason I sold it (sounded like K601 with no bass).

 

As for OP's question:

 

ATH-AD900 and up

K601 and up

DT880

HD600

AH-D5K

Various lambda style Stax if that's your thing

 

These would probably all be closest to neutral within HD-800 realm depending on what you're looking for, and as shown earlier the DT880 is close enough to the T1 to call them kissing cousins in FR.

post #75 of 81
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A while back I sold my Stax SR-202 with adapter for around $400 used (I got it for $450), so it's certainly not unfeasible.  Then again, there was a reason I sold it (sounded like K601 with no bass).

 

As for OP's question:

 

ATH-AD900 and up

K601 and up

DT880

HD600

AH-D5K

Various lambda style Stax if that's your thing

 

These would probably all be closest to neutral within HD-800 realm depending on what you're looking for, and as shown earlier the DT880 is close enough to the T1 to call them kissing cousins in FR.

Or just get a Hifiman HE-500wink.gif

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