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post #46 of 71
5/13/12 at 3:46pm
Sansui is less warm than Marantz, but a bit warmer than Pioneer, which itself was just slightly warm of neutral until you get to the SX-3xxx series, which started to get bright.
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post #47 of 71
5/13/12 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post

Just wondering what a Sansui sounds like as I don't know the brand at all.And if that 990 is for sale.

Sansui 990 pictured is not for sale.

Hmm...describe Sansui sound signature without sounding pious,let's see.
Speakers reproduce the sound,amps well, amplify the signal.
What you are about to read is opinion,not fact.

Culled from the internet are categorizations such as:
-Sansui amplifiers will sound more crisp than their warm receivers
-a very 'Sansui' sound, with good separation
-Sansui will be more accurate
-resolution,detail
-Sansui has a sound not found in any other audio component of that time
-there is a certain sweetness to the Sansui sound that is undeniable
-their roots in transformers are often cited as the reason for their success,a good power transformer is the heart of a good amplifier
-with Sansui,you don't even have to turn it on,the looks alone satisfy

And so the list goes on,as much as it could for other manufacturers of that era.
Part of the fun is giving as much gear as possible a chance,if you can.
Having searched,owned and listened,I prefer the Sansui sound but that does not negate the qualities of other brands that I own,or would like to try.

Does a 125W Marantz 2325 push a 125W Sansui 990 off the shelf ?
In my mind the slightest nod would go the Sansui but doesn't mean I enjoy the Marantz any less...
My heart is in all this vintage gear,no matter how much new Accuphase et al. I could load up on.

If there is an afterlife,I'm heading straight to the listening room to hear God's Audio System.
Edited by 5aces - 5/19/12 at 11:55am
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post #48 of 71
5/16/12 at 11:34am
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Sorry, was a bit absent on HF the last two days but I managed to track down both a marantz 2330 and Sansui 990.

Now I'm negotiating with both sellers on the price.

What would be the maximum I should pay for these in Europe.

The Marantz is mint except for the case, the Sansui is even a bit better I think.

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post #49 of 71
5/16/12 at 11:52am

Cool! I'm not really sure about prices over there - best to check eBay.  Let us know what you decide.


Edited by Skylab - 5/16/12 at 11:54am
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post #50 of 71
5/16/12 at 12:13pm
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Will do, but eBay seems to have a very wide price range on those things. Basically what anyone wants to pay for it.

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post #51 of 71
5/16/12 at 12:26pm
In the USA, you would expect to pay between $400-600 for a Sansui 9090DB in good-excellent condition (but without any kind of restoration). There is currently a 9090DB for sale that is partially recapped and completely serviced for $800. Looks mint.

2330 I'm not familiar enough to say.
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post #52 of 71
5/16/12 at 12:29pm
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I was thinking of putting these RCA splitters on the outputs of my Dac to be able to run RCA cables to both the vintage amp and my other amp so I can use the one dac with both receivers and avoid having to need a second Dac.

 

Is that a bad idea?

Will I have signal loss or degradation, SQ loss, less volume, feedback loops, exploding stuff etc ...?

 

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post #53 of 71
5/16/12 at 12:35pm
Should be no problem whatsoever.
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post #54 of 71
5/16/12 at 12:43pm
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Ah, ok then, second similar question in a series of three.

 

I would also want to connect the preamp outputs on both the vintage amp and modern amp via rca to similar plugs to put the signal into a powered subwoofer.

This subwoofer has separate inputs for left and right channels and switches on automatically when it receives a signal. (a trigger cable can be uused as well but is not necessary). The sub can be programmed with different settings to match both amp/speaker combos. I don't have the sub yet, I have the older model but that one is more specifically designed for home cinema and has different inputs so I can't really test it.

 

Any problem with that?

 

Here's the info on the sub. PV1D

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post #55 of 71
5/17/12 at 2:50pm
Here is what I use to split the signal from the DAC into 4 preamplifiers:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/537704/calling-all-vintage-integrated-receiver-owners/3645#post_7988484

Something to get the signal from 1 input into 4 outputs simultaneously with no loss,hunt one down on euro auction site.

If you get the Marantz 2330 it can be more bass heavy than the 22XX Marantz series.

You have a lot of Marantz gear,try that Sansui 990 and do tell...
Edited by 5aces - 5/17/12 at 3:09pm
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post #56 of 71
5/17/12 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by 5aces View Post

Here is what I use to split the signal from the DAC into 4 preamplifiers:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/537704/calling-all-vintage-integrated-receiver-owners/3645#post_7988484
Something to get the signal from 1 input into 4 outputs simultaneously with no loss,hunt one down on euro auction site.
If you get the Marantz 2330 it can be more bass heavy than the 22XX Marantz series.

 

Thanks for the info. I know Luxman has these splitters as well but don't think they're active.

http://luxman.co.jp/global/product/index.html#h6

If you scroll to the bottom you'll see two versions for RCA and two for speakers.

 

But I'm a bit paranoid. Apart from being worried about ground loops that have been hard to figure out in my experience I'm also the kind that likes things straight wired point to point.

 

But for the speakers and subwoofer part I think I found myself another solution and a good reason to keep an extra pair of floorstanding speakers.  :)

 

That would be:

Use my modern desktop amp with bookshelves on my desk.

Get new speakers for my living room amp.

Use my vintage living room amp's speakers in my office with the vintage amp.

 

Since I only need to split on source on two amps in my office I think I'l try the RCA splitters first and if that works fine have me a custom cable made with one RCA on the one end and 2 RCAs on the other.

If not, such an active splitter might indeed be worth a try.

 

Thanks for the tip on the Marant 2330 as well.

 

No one knows a 2385 for sale in Europe by the way?

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post #57 of 71
5/17/12 at 3:33pm
I see those coaxial selectors,usually it is only one switch selection at a time but I can't tell for certain on the Luxman site.

No issues here using the always active 4 rca audio output powered switch but I forget you are on 220V.

Not a fan of driving on the left hand side of the road either.
Edited by 5aces - 5/17/12 at 3:35pm
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post #58 of 71
5/17/12 at 3:45pm
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220V yes, but right hand side drivng here, I'm in Belgium. ;)

 

 

I wouldn't need to drive muliple amps at once though but I hate plugging the cables in and out every time.

I just like the conveniece of selecting an amp to listen to without all the hassle, as long as it doesn't hurt SQ.

 

EDIT: I see you're a biker as well. Is that your bike in your avatar?


Edited by AppleheadMay - 5/17/12 at 3:47pm
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post #59 of 71
5/18/12 at 9:26am
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This is the current ride,with the JH-13 painted up like the scooter,works great.
Yeah,I'm one of those people with stuff stored in a barn...

Belgium,I remember so many microbreweries with a bar,still have a nice mug a barkeep gave me when he found out I was from Canada.
Bruges,Market Square and canals.
Good chocolates too !
Edited by 5aces - 5/18/12 at 9:41am
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post #60 of 71
5/18/12 at 10:16am
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My Current one is a BMW K1200RS, 9 years old now. But I want to buy me another one of their Boxer engines again and am waiting for the watercooled R1200GS to come out end of the year. Much better for the country roads and the K1200RS is not healthy for my driver's license.  ;)

 

Belgium has indeed the best (and strongest) beers in the world, a few hundred different brands. Never try a beer-drinking match with a Belgian, the beer you have abroad is like soda to us (think Heineken or Bud).  ;)  Except for Guinnes, my compliments to the Irish. Did you know Michael Jackson wrote a book about Belgian beer?

 

Chocolate is another thing we are famous for as are "French Fries". God knows who got the idea to call them French because the fries in France tast like crap compared to ours. Here you can buy them on just about every corner of a street in the cities, kind of like burgers in the US I guess.

 

And taxes, all kinds of taxes and taxes upon taxes, that's another thing Belgium is well known for.  ;)

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