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kiteki said:

recessed bass and narrow sound-stage is trademark HiFiMAN, the RE0, RE252 and RE272 are all like that, seems like bass and sound-stage is not for audiophiles.

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So the RE-0 isn't perfect? For <100$ they should have no flaws?
I'm neutral about the RE-Zero's soundstage. It's not wide, but average. Their only big flaw to me is build construction, which is much more common than a random occurrence.

The RE0 is nice, the RE272 much nicer.
 
Vsonic is discontinuing the R04 flagship version oh well, and maybe the normal version...
 
In early June they're releasing an updated GR07.  In 2012 GR07 is the new RE0 and it's worth the extra $.

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In early June they're releasing an updated GR07.

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Explain yourself 
 
...are you referring to the GR08, Kiteki?

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...are you referring to the GR08, Kiteki?

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"GR07旗舰版小改款 预计上市时间在6月初。本次主要针对线材进行再一次强力升级。售价维持原价 999元。"
 
= GR07 upgrade shipping in early June.

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kiteki said:

 
"GR07旗舰版小改款 预计上市时间在6月初。本次主要针对线材进行再一次强力升级。售价维持原价 999元。"
 
= GR07 upgrade shipping in early June.

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Wow. This is exciting, yet worrying news. I'm PM'ing you.

I owned the RE-ZERO, which I think are tons better than the RE-0.  I am getting the VSonic GR-06 pretty soon here.  I think they will easily beat both of those IEMS.

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I'm going to agree with you for the most part...  However, many haven't been going the route of lots of bass amplitude (volume/dB), instead, they are going after span in my mind.  They want the deepest digging bass.  Things like the A161s don't have a lot of bass volume-wise, but dig deeper than I could have imagined.  Same goes for hte ASG-1, both of which are actually really bass-soft.  The Moshi Clarus, and the Vortex Pro. 
 
However, the Etymotic EtyKids is a prime example that not all the companies have walked away from the anemic sounds of analytics. 
 
To answer the OP the RE0 is still a worth-while buy at 80 bucks, although the competitions catching up, they tend to have a different signature.  If you want analytic sound for under 100, RE0 or EtyKids...  The only reason why I wouldn't recommend the RE0 is the build quality as mine died out on me after 2 months of use.  It's been over a year now, so I'm not sending them in (I didn't want to send them in before ).  Still a great sounding IEM. 

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Another thing I've noticed is more attention to soundstage and that having none at all is no longer acceptable. Soundstage size/presence seems to correlate with driver size (true?)
 
One thing the GR07 has made me realize is I want more sub-bass than bass. The "bass" the GR07 produces is hardly bass at all because we are so used to the low-end of most headphones interacting or blooming in some way. Its bass is unobtrusive and becomes part of the music.

My first quality IEM and I think they are still worth the price. Mine sat for a while but recently they have been my bedside listeners.  I did have a small build issue with the casing on one side, but I glued it back together and no issues yet. I have the 2nd version I think.
 
Awesome IEMs.
 

I think you should get the 2012 product that suggested..
I think its gr07 maybe?

By the way, the RE0 started seling for $200, then went down to $79
 
The RE252 started at $200, went down to $100
 
The RE262 started at $250, went down to $150
 
The RE272 is $250...
 
Everyone thinks the RE272 is overpriced, just like the Yuin PK1/OK1.  Hifiman should sell it for a lot less, it's a nice IEM.

RE262 was never sold at $250. It was announced to be sold at $250, but reduces to $150 when it actually hit the market.

Oh ok thanks for the correction.
 
btw I think the RE272 is still a nice product for $250.

did any actually recable re-zero ? need to read the tutorial before mine broken

I used to be a big fan of RE0, but recently I stopped using them altogether mostly because of terrible build quality on this IEM - the sound constantly stops working in one or both channels and the cable is prone to hardening from exposure to sweat. However, I also tend to favor the sharper, better defined and vivid sound of good single balance armatures these days and thus listen to Phonak PFE (single driver), or Etymotic HF and ER4 instead of RE0. I find the Etys or Phonaks do pretty much everything that RE0 can do, but offer better speed, separation, clarity and a more precise imaging which to my ears provides a more realistic listening experience overall.
 
I highly recommend Etymotic HF (2, 3, or 5 doesn't matter since they are all identical sounding) first and Audeo PFE second if you are an analytical listener looking for an IEM on a budget. HF is more controlled than PFE with better imaging, higher resolution, especially in the bass and midrange and more natural timbre. PFE is better if you prefer a bit more bass than a neutral response of the Etymotic provides and more impact to it while sacrificing a bit of control and definition. PFE is also more dynamic than HF5 and perhaps a tad smoother as well in the lows and mids, although HF5 has smoother and more linear highs. HF5 doesn't really have any flaws to my ears though, while PFE has a noticeable resonance peak in the treble than can make it sound somewhat edgy and harsh, especially with the grey filters. Both are preferable to RE0 for analytical listening IMO as RE0 tends to round off the edges of sounds more and is not as precise as the balanced armature based IEMs.

And the DBA-02 is supposed to beat all 3, but I haven't tried it so I don't really know. I'll agree that the RE-0's strong point isn't to be the best analytical IEM, but the best for its price. It's almost always compared to models a lot more expensive. And yes, the build quality is a huge issue that should really be addressed.