Hey nigel..i see u use ONLY silver widow on ALL ur phones..ever tried a 8wire BW..thats pricewise in the same league as ur 4wire SW..i ask u this as i once had a 4wire BW..and although it was good it was nothing super to talk about..but when i switched over to th cable i have now (8wire) i found out how good a copper cable cable can be with my higher end rig i now have...any brighter soundsignature would just be to much..i checked it with a couple of friends who ,in my opinion, have real golden ears, and they all agreed that my rig sounded pretty natural..more treble would just be overkill...maybe the SW would show more detail...could be..but for the whole listening expererience..the Bw 8wire or the copper venom (8wire or the RC4 4 wire) should be the right match with brighter phones...ofcourse its all personal..some people prefer a brighter soundsignature..or ur ears are just less sensitive to treble..in that case a brighter silver cable could be ur thing..but in the end..its all personal...
But i actually know at least one person with very very high quality stuff who has Almost all TOTL cables frank makes (kiats and sensui)..the BW and Sw and the venom and if i am not mistaken some hybrids also..and they agree with me..if u do a comparision on the hd800.. The BW 8wire or the copper venom could be a very good choice over the SW..unless u like a brighter soundsignature..i heard 2 silver cables in the past compared to my 8wire BW and for me the BW gave just more heart to the music..it did show a little bit less detail..but the music sounded like music..it was flowing... To my ears anyway..i asked frank to borrow me a SW to compare it to my Bw and the venom i am getting...to do a little comparision on my amp..that would be very interesting...
I will ask frank again if he has one SW laying around for me to use it as comparision... I am not choosing camps here my friends..we all love franks cables... And he makes one of the most wonderful cables on this world..everyone can be helped with any wish he has soundwise...
Longbowbbs..pity u live so far..i would love to compare my cables to urs..and in the proces make u buy a He5 second hand and let him being transformed by LFF into a code-x..as the more i listen to my phone the more i get a feeling it would be perfect for ur carly 80!
And guys..we are just discussing opinions right? We all believe no matter which cable frank makes it for sure is one of the better cables in its pricerange..right?
Ps..am now listening to the soundtrack of beowulf in lossless (yep again)...OMFG...the lows...the plcement of intruments..the soundstage...u can pinpoint almost every single instrument...the music vibrates as if they are playing live in front of u.... U have to hear it to believe it.. And the code-x is in a big way responsible for this... Really guys..get urself a RARE second hand HE5 (if u can get one!) and sent it to LFF to transform it into maybe one of the most musical sounding phones existing now...u wont regret it!
And nigel..just saw the game..am really sorry u guys lost..i was hoping ur team would win! Well..u still have 2games to play to make it right! So kick some butt
Unfortunately I have not listened to any other aftermarket cable on the HD800's.
I would love to listen to the BW or other quality copper cable but I generally prefer silver and loved my first Toxic cable (Silver Poison) on my HE-6's so I stuck with silver.
I don't consider the HD800's as bright with the SW. The treble is very extended but smooth and there is plenty of tight deep bass and excellent midrange.
The SW may be brighter than the BW but I would call this just more extended up high rather than more emphasized.
I have been very interested in the Venom ( Franks best Copper cable if I am not mistaken, although I do lose track! ).
Yeah disappointed with the Italy result but I thought the performance was good, at least compared to our normal level. However I am looking ahead as this is a young England team with a whole new defense and some good young players coming through.
After the Costa Rica result the group is still wide open and if we can improve and get a result against Uruguay anything can happen.
Edited by nigeljames - 6/15/14 at 4:21am