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A few quick impressions.  Mostly I listen to electrostats but I wanted to have one efficient and manageable dynamic rig, which consists of HD600s through a Gilmore Lite and Luxman DAC.  It sounds nice, but was curious about the difference a cable would make and also about Toxic in particular.  Within the limits I'd set, I wanted to push this combo to its edges.  The Silver Poison arrived yesterday, and I've been burning it in for the past 24 hours, and the ensemble has opened up incredibly--I feel like I'm now getting the most out of each component.  The soundstage is much wider and I hear the music from all directions; fuller body than before and am able to take better advantage of the Gilmore Lite's neutrality, as well as the 600's.  The overall sound is detailed and clean, what I was after.  I feel the SP even gets more from the limited DAC.  Very happy with this addition.

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Frank has returned my SW after re-termination (from HD800 to LCD-X connectors) and I must say the workmanship is of first class and the turn-around time is quick.

My new Audeze LCD-X and the SW cable have burn-in for more than 150 hrs and 50 hrs respectively and it is therefore time for me to report on my impression on the performance of the SW with that of the stock cable.

The test is simple and I just used my ears for the judgement (based on my impression)wink.gif . I listened to a number of my favourite CDs and compared the SQ of the two cables track by track. I spent almost three hrs on the comparisons.cool.gif

I can now confirm that with the SW cable on, the transparency of the music has much improved and there is no more veil when compared with the stock cable. I also found the music separation has also improved and the background is much cleaner. However the HF has only extended by very small amount and I believe it is due to the characteristics of the LCD-X and as such using a silver cable can only boost the HF by a small margin. My conclusion is that with the SW connected to the LCD-X there is noticeably positive improvement in the SQ when compared with the stock cable.

I also have two pairs of HD800s (one with a BW while the other with 18AWG Scorpion) and I am going to provide my impression of HD800 with that of LCD-X. I found the lower midrange and bass of LCD-X is exceptionally good and therefore using it for jazz vocals will certainly beat HD800. As a whole LCD-X is more musical and the music is with a lot more body, the music is very analogue and warmer than HD800. On the other hand HD800 is excellent in revealing all the musical details in particular the HF and high midrange areas as well as the excellent sound staging where LCD-X is unable to compete. The bass of HD800 is not lean at all to my ears but not as tight and extended when compared with LCD-X. IMHO HD800 performs excellent when listening to classical and jazz music. I am pleased to have bought both HD800 and LCD-X for use with different types of music.

Lastly I must thank Frank for making various types of excellent Toxics to work with different types of headphones. There is no doubt that without the excellent Toxic cables connected to my headphones they cannot perform their best of their performance. beerchug.gif
Edited by inter voice - 1/7/14 at 3:22am
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Inter Voice, thanks for your impressions.  I have the LCD 2.2s, how would you compare the LCD-Xs to these?  I also have the HD800s now with a Silver Poison Cable as well as a Balanced Silver Widow cable on the LCDs.  The cables are too new to really come to any conclusions but  I am pleased so far.  Those who say different cables don't change the sound are obviously wrong.  Mark.

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Frank you got PM ^^

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Inter Voice, thanks for your impressions.  I have the LCD 2.2s, how would you compare the LCD-Xs to these?  I also have the HD800s now with a Silver Poison Cable as well as a Balanced Silver Widow cable on the LCDs.  The cables are too new to really come to any conclusions but  I am pleased so far.  Those who say different cables don't change the sound are obviously wrong.  Mark.

Mark@ Yes I did audition 2.2s, 3 and XD before I bought my X smily_headphones1.gif

I found 2.2s is a bit dull and the bass is too heavy to my ears. It also lacks all the details in the HF. IMHO X is a different headphone from 2.2s or 3 as it has a wider sound staging, more extended HF (though not as detail as HD800) but with lesser bass than 2.2s. X is more dynamic and fast and is particularly good at its midrange. It sounds very warm to my ears and I love its sonic signature.

Just to take this opportunity to mention that between X and XD I prefer X more as XD sounds not natural to me thoght it has a bit more bass and HF (but that is only my impression wink.gif). It might be due to its closed cup design.

Regarding HD800 from my personal experience BW is the best companion while next to it is 18AWG Scorpion. SW is good to the ears of some people but to me I found it to be too details and the music is very analytical and not musical at all. It is good if you use it as a monitor to identify all the details in the recording but the music is not to my liking redface.gif. This is the reason I return the SW to Frank for retermination from HD800 to LCD-X tongue.gif Now I am really happy with all of my CANs gs1000.gifL3000.gif
Edited by inter voice - 1/7/14 at 7:01am
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Does Toxic do interconnects?

 

Yor Help is needed.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698810/the-interconnect-and-power-cable-thread

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Does Toxic do interconnects?

 

Yor Help is needed.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698810/the-interconnect-and-power-cable-thread

 

They most certainly do.  I have their silver poison interconnects for all my components with carbon fiber rhodium RCA connectors as well as XLR connectors.  Very nice stuff.

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Frank do you have any smaller diameter silver cable? maybe 30AWG? used for mod the internal circuit board, best if coated.

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Mark@ Yes I did audition 2.2s, 3 and XD before I bought my X smily_headphones1.gif

I found 2.2s is a bit dull and the bass is too heavy to my ears. It also lacks all the details in the HF. IMHO X is a different headphone from 2.2s or 3 as it has a wider sound staging, more extended HF (though not as detail as HD800) but with lesser bass than 2.2s. X is more dynamic and fast and is particularly good at its midrange. It sounds very warm to my ears and I love its sonic signature.

Just to take this opportunity to mention that between X and XD I prefer X more as XD sounds not natural to me thoght it has a bit more bass and HF (but that is only my impression wink.gif). It might be due to its closed cup design.

Regarding HD800 from my personal experience BW is the best companion while next to it is 18AWG Scorpion. SW is good to the ears of some people but to me I found it to be too details and the music is very analytical and not musical at all. It is good if you use it as a monitor to identify all the details in the recording but the music is not to my liking redface.gif. This is the reason I return the SW to Frank for retermination from HD800 to LCD-X tongue.gif Now I am really happy with all of my CANs gs1000.gifL3000.gif

You may be correct in regards to the SW and HD800's.  I bought the Silver Poison cables at a slight discount because of a very minor cosmetic issue...so I knew if I didn't like it I could get my investment back and purchase a Copper Toxic cable if need be.  Also there was no wait...It was shipped after payment and arrived about 2 weeks later where as the SW for the Audeze Cans came 4 months after payment.  At this point I haven't decided what to do....I actually am liking the Silver Poison with the HD 800 although I would like the sound a little warmer.  I'm looking into different tubes for my pre amp to accomplish this though.

 

The Balanced Silver Widow cable has a dramatic effect on the LCD 2.2s....I couldn't call them dark.  They are far more detailed with better/more treble extension without losing much Bass, if any.  It's a very different sound from that with the stock single ended cable with my Decware tubed Taboo MK III Amp through the CSP3 pre amp.  Mark.

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Mark@ Just to clarify that when I did the audition I used the headphones' stock cables for the comparison. During the test my ears told me that 2.2s was certainly darker than the X. According to all the feedbacks here it has been confirmed that 2.2s will have great SQ improvement with the help of SW cable biggrin.gif.
Edited by inter voice - 1/7/14 at 8:07am
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Mark@ Just to clarify that when I did the audition I used the headphones' stock cables for the comparison. During the test my ears told me that 2.2s was certainly darker than the X. According to all the feedbacks here it has been confirmed that 2.2s will have great SQ improvement with the help of SW cable biggrin.gif.

What you say is true.  I actually like the "Warm" sound or what some called "Veiled" with the LCD 2.2s especially on poorer or older recordings....I listen to a lot of Jazz from the 30's to 50's that benefit from "less" detail.  I like having all these choices and will probably just buy a Copper Toxic Cable for the HD 800 at some point and keep the poison.  Maybe I'll win a Black Widow from Frank....:rolleyes:

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I'm using the SW with the Audeze lcd 3's. There is an improvement in hf detail at the expense of a little loss of 'body' in the bass but the bass is now better defined so all in all a good trade off compared with the stock cable.

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Starting off with the first of many give aways for 2014.

 

This will be my new Silver Poison USB cable in 1m.

 

I have chosen the winner of this prize myself, rather then randomly and it will be going to my most prolific (spent the most with me) and one of the most patient customers of many from 2013.

 

The winner is Sensui123.

 

 

Thanks mate.


Edited by Toxic Cables - 1/7/14 at 8:52am
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Gratz Sensui123!!! :D 

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congrats dude!!

 

cant wait to get my SW iem

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