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I'm using the Black Dragon V2 with my HD650. Can I get some comments on how the Toxic Cable offerings compare to that?

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I never tried the Black Dragon, but I love the Silver Widows!

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Originally Posted by raddle View Post
 

I'm using the Black Dragon V2 with my HD650. Can I get some comments on how the Toxic Cable offerings compare to that?

 

Since I review cable and other audio, I'll just say this. You will not be disappointed on Frank's offerings whatsoever.

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Guys I am considering buying a cable from Toxic to improve my LCD-3's, non veiled version. Frank doesn't have a demo set that I can try at this time so if I'm going to buy it's going to be blind, there's not much else that I would spend that kind of money on without auditioning so I'm looking for a bit of feedback. Does anyone have experience of the unveiled LCD-3 with either the Toxic Widow or Poison, Frank is recommending the Widow. What I am looking to do is tighten the bass, open out the soundstage and achieve greater detail and separation at the upper mid and top end without edginess or sibilance which I have always associated with silver cable. This is where I feel my 3's could be improved. Any real world feedback would be appreciated. Also does anyone have a link to the various alternatives for connectors etc that Frank offers, there only seems to be a limited selection on his website and I'm wondering what other options are open to me.

Thanks all.
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Originally Posted by sam1e View Post

Guys I am considering buying a cable from Toxic to improve my LCD-3's, non veiled version. Frank doesn't have a demo set that I can try at this time so if I'm going to buy it's going to be blind, there's not much else that I would spend that kind of money on without auditioning so I'm looking for a bit of feedback. Does anyone have experience of the unveiled LCD-3 with either the Toxic Widow or Poison, Frank is recommending the Widow. What I am looking to do is tighten the bass, open out the soundstage and achieve greater detail and separation at the upper mid and top end without edginess or sibilance which I have always associated with silver cable. This is where I feel my 3's could be improved. Any real world feedback would be appreciated. Also does anyone have a link to the various alternatives for connectors etc that Frank offers, there only seems to be a limited selection on his website and I'm wondering what other options are open to me.

Thanks all.
Am sure frank meant the silver widow..it improves exactly what u just wrote u want to be improved..i dont have a longterm experience with a lcd3 but i know some of the guys here who own a lcd3 with a silver widow who can advice u better... tongue.gif
Good luck!
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Yes Frank did recommend the Silver Widow, not the Poison. I just want to be fairly sure they do what I want before taking the plunge and buying and there's nothing better than a head-fi opinion in that respect. I guess I'm concerned that they may be too bright with the LCD-3's as most of the reviews I have found relate to the LCD-2's and the great improvement they give at the top end.
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Yes Frank did recommend the Silver Widow, not the Poison. I just want to be fairly sure they do what I want before taking the plunge and buying and there's nothing better than a head-fi opinion in that respect. I guess I'm concerned that they may be too bright with the LCD-3's as most of the reviews I have found relate to the LCD-2's and the great improvement they give at the top end.

Improvement in this case is not related to brightness. You will probably get more detail and a more extended, natural top end.
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Hey Frank, see what happens when you let Axel listen to your awesome cables! Suddenly cables matter! Who knew?  :D

 

http://en-de.sennheiser.com/news/the-ultimate-in-listening-pleasure-the-new-sennheiser-high-end-cables-

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Hey Frank, see what happens when you let Axel listen to your awesome cables! Suddenly cables matter! Who knew?  biggrin.gif

http://en-de.sennheiser.com/news/the-ultimate-in-listening-pleasure-the-new-sennheiser-high-end-cables-
I think it would be much cheaper for them to just let frank make cables for them..and better! Bet then frank had to get another 4 men to help him with the xtra orders biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

Hey Frank, see what happens when you let Axel listen to your awesome cables! Suddenly cables matter! Who knew?  biggrin.gif

http://en-de.sennheiser.com/news/the-ultimate-in-listening-pleasure-the-new-sennheiser-high-end-cables-
I think it would be much cheaper for them to just let frank make cables for them..and better! Bet then frank had to get another 4 men to help him with the xtra orders biggrin.gif

Let's see how fast they could crank out balanced 8 wire BW's.....

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the only reason sennheiser released that cable was so it would work with the balanced outputs on the hdvd800 amp...has nothing to do about being impressed about Frank's cable during Munich event.

 

Leaving the "cables matter because they change the sound of a headphone" aside, they actually do when the internal of an amp benefits from balanced connection which will benefit from a full balanced setup. That's really the only thing sennheiser is stating.

 

 

on the side note: still waiting for my ordered iems which I bought my toxic silver for.


Edited by LifeAspect - 11/16/13 at 10:01am
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I think the distinction between "bright" and "extended on top" is important. To me, having more extension on top feels like it fills in the top-end detail without actually making the sound brighter. It feels like more of the harmonics are there. If that's what the Silver Widow does, I'm interested. Is there an HD650 version?

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Originally Posted by raddle View Post

I think the distinction between "bright" and "extended on top" is important. To me, having more extension on top feels like it fills in the top-end detail without actually making the sound brighter. It feels like more of the harmonics are there. If that's what the Silver Widow does, I'm interested. Is there an HD650 version?


When I refer to brightness from my experience with older silver cables I'm talking about those nasty top end artefacts that they used to produce, how can I describe it, scratchy, broken high notes, a lack of smoothness or control at the very top end that creates a sound that is unpleasant to listen to with certain recordings and fatiguing with headphones. My understanding is that the Silver Widow may resolve this whilst offering openness and greater detail giving me what I'm after to improve my LCD-3's but I'd sure like to hear from a headfier that has hands on listening experience with this set up, AManAnd88keys said that "you will probably get" which, although welcome, is a bit ambiguous and not necessarily from hands on experience and may be an opinion based on advertised spec or anecdotal evidence, let me know AManAnd88keys. All feedback is welcome but I'm really hoping to hear from someone that has hands on experience of the cable with the LCD-3 and can comment from hours of listening.
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I've got the Silver Widow on order for use with LCD 3's. May arrive next month but can't comment until then.

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I take it the silver widow uses silver wire? I'm not sure I like the sound of silver I've heard in the past, but what I am taking from this thread is that the Silver Widow isn't a typical silver sound???

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