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post #4066 of 9363
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Originally Posted by playitloud View Post

At this moment I have the Black widow. I bought it based on the general consensus that the Sennheiser HD800 needs a copper cable. Well, in my system this is not the case. I think that it also depends on your reference. For instance, my other headphone is the AKG K1000. That phone has a less extended bass than the Sennheiser. As such, the focus is more on midrange and treble. To address this 'leanness' i have equipment that is already on the warm side, to get the max. out of the AKG K1000. The treble of the Sennheiser is smoother than the treble of the AKG K1000. Some will disagree, but that is what I hear. The combination of more bass and a smoother treble of the Sennheiser HD800 compared to the AKG K1000, means there is no real need to warm things  up. At this moment I am experimenting with tubes to get that extra clarity out of the Sennheiser HD800.  

 

I use a speaker amplifier and I do not have a headphone amplifier. As such I never heard the stock cable of the HD800. My only reference is the black widow. Most of you compare the silver widow to the stock cable, that makes it hard for me to find out what the silver widow brings to the table compared to the black widow. Maybe if you compare the black widow to the stock cable you get similar improvements as mentioned with the silver cable. That is why I would like to know whether some of you really have compared both the black widow and the silver widow preferably with the Sennheiser HD800. Not trying to offense anyone, but spare me the standard silver versus copper sound advice. I am well aware of that. I am only interested in a real comparison between the black widow and the silver widow. I have already spend quite a lot of money on a cable, I am willing to take another plunge with the silver widow, but only if i get a good idea of the differences i can expect changing form a black widow to a silver widow from someone who really compared them....Thank you.

I understand your concern.  I own two HD800s and one of them is now using 18AWG Scorpion which I think has very similar sonic quailty as BW.  As I said before I also think HD800 should pair better with pure copper cables and thus I placed my order with Frank a BW for my other HD800 (which is now using Oyaide PCOCC-A cable).  However having seen many GOOD comments here and Frank also said SW copes with HD800 very well I eventually changed my order from a BW to a SW.  As I have two HD800s when the SW arrives I can make a A/B test between the 18AWG Scorpion and the SW.   I will post something about the test result when I have done the comparison.


Edited by inter voice - 7/4/13 at 1:13am
post #4067 of 9363

That is good news. Any idea when your silver widow will be shipped?


Edited by playitloud - 7/4/13 at 1:19am
post #4068 of 9363
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Originally Posted by playitloud View Post

That is good news. Any idea when your silver widow will be shipped?

I ordered it many months ago (I think it was in Feb) and it should arrive by end of the month I hope rolleyes.gif

post #4069 of 9363

Well I think your hope is reasonable. I ordered my BW in January and received it exactly 20 weeks later. Looking forward to your impressions.

post #4070 of 9363
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Originally Posted by inter voice View Post

I understand your concern.  I own two HD800s and one of them is now using 18AWG Scorpion which I think has very similar sonic quailty as BW.  As I said before I also think HD800 should pair better with pure copper cables and thus I placed my order with Frank a BW for my other HD800 (which is now using Oyaide PCOCC-A cable).  However having seen many GOOD comments here and Frank also said SW copes with HD800 very well I eventually changed my order from a BW to a SW.  As I have two HD800s when the SW arrives I can make a A/B test between the 18AWG Scorpion and the SW.   I will post something about the test result when I have done the comparison.

I would love to read this review! I have a difficult time choosing between BW or SW. I do not want my HD800 to be warmer but at the same time I read a lot of people enjoying the duo HD800-Copper cable. 

post #4071 of 9363

I am anxiously awaiting my SW's and BW's from Frank for my HD800's....It will be fun to compare them.

post #4072 of 9363

I'm sure the silver widows will not disappoint, whoever receives them!!

post #4073 of 9363
Anyone using Silver Widow with LCD3? Amp is Schiit Mjolnir which is very neutral and powerful (exactly what I want) and Gungnir dac. I ordered a Silver Widow some time back so prolly have a lot longer time to wait for it to arrive. Don't really recall seeing any reviews of the SW with LCD3. With 2.2s supposed to be a really nice improvement. User feedback on SW with LCD3 appreciated.
post #4074 of 9363
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I am anxiously awaiting my SW's and BW's from Frank for my HD800's....It will be fun to compare them.

It seems that I am not the only one owing two HD800s tongue_smile.gif Now I have company. 

post #4075 of 9363
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Originally Posted by commtrd View Post

Anyone using Silver Widow with LCD3? Amp is Schiit Mjolnir which is very neutral and powerful (exactly what I want) and Gungnir dac. I ordered a Silver Widow some time back so prolly have a lot longer time to wait for it to arrive. Don't really recall seeing any reviews of the SW with LCD3. With 2.2s supposed to be a really nice improvement. User feedback on SW with LCD3 appreciated.

 

I have the SWs for my LCD-3 and it is indeed a match made in heaven. In the process of writing up a proper review for the SWs and LCD-3 combo. Stay tuned.

post #4076 of 9363
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Originally Posted by inter voice View Post

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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I am anxiously awaiting my SW's and BW's from Frank for my HD800's....It will be fun to compare them.

It seems that I am not the only one owing two HD800s tongue_smile.gif Now I have company. 

No, I just have the one pair. I'll switch the cables as needed. 

post #4077 of 9363
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

No, I just have the one pair. I'll switch the cables as needed. 

 

A bit of a tangent, but the HD800s are about the only headphone where I detest changing cables. Always seems like I am really close to dent/scratch that silvery foil. Now that I think of it, I will probably use some protection surface just underneath the headphone jack, like some carton/foam/felt to avoid this risk. I wonder what anyone else thinks/does about this.

 

It has to be said though that Frank's connectors are much better at this than the stock ones, the latter being horrific.


Edited by negura - 7/5/13 at 2:10pm
post #4078 of 9363

i really wana order Virus but i know that i will have to wait for like 20 weeks maybe :/ 

post #4079 of 9363

I don't know what the guidelines are with the HD800s but for HD650s I think you were limited in the number of times you should swap cables. However I can't find this info in the manual so I don't remember where I got this from.

post #4080 of 9363

You should not switch cables too much because it wears out the pins on the headphones. 

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