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post #3706 of 9483
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

oh ok...i thought the toxic copper (or copper hybrid) cables were best combo with the hd800...well..u see...even i learn a thing or two.. biggrin.gif

maybe i have to try one silver widow or arsenic one day on my he500 as well...to see if it will be better pair then the black widow to my ears k701smile.gif
 

 

I just received my SWs for HE-500 a few days ago and they do work extremely well together already although there's not too many hours burn-in in them. You had your doubts when I ordered these for my HiFiMans, but luckily that seems to be a really goo match. Well, maybe it's not luck after all since I ended up ordering the SW after Frank recommended it after hearing my preferences.

So thanks again Frank, you do know your business. smile.gif

post #3707 of 9483
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Originally Posted by LPP6 View Post

 

I just received my SWs for HE-500 a few days ago and they do work extremely well together already although there's not too many hours burn-in in them. You had your doubts when I ordered these for my HiFiMans, but luckily that seems to be a really goo match. Well, maybe it's not luck after all since I ended up ordering the SW after Frank recommended it after hearing my preferences.

So thanks again Frank, you do know your business. smile.gif

Glad you like it and sorry for the extremely long wait. The SW does pair very well with the HE-500, depending on what you are after.


Edited by Toxic Cables - 5/22/13 at 10:01pm
post #3708 of 9483
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Originally Posted by LPP6 View Post

I just received my SWs for HE-500 a few days ago and they do work extremely well together already although there's not too many hours burn-in in them. You had your doubts when I ordered these for my HiFiMans, but luckily that seems to be a really goo match. Well, maybe it's not luck after all since I ended up ordering the SW after Frank recommended it after hearing my preferences.
So thanks again Frank, you do know your business. smile.gif
In the end it all depends on what rig u have and what preferences u have to decide which cable u need..in ur case its the silver widow. For others its black widow or arsenic. Its not back and white.

And as frank said..its all about prefences..for some its better to get one cable..for the other another cable.....and if frank recommended the sw to u then u can count on it its good advice..
he once recommended me to get the black widow 22awg (i was first one to get one) for my he500 in my rig...and i never looked back. wink.gif
Congrats on ur cable! And enjoy.
post #3709 of 9483

Hi Frank,

 

Just sent you a PM about the BW.

post #3710 of 9483
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Originally Posted by Kalmooso View Post

I finally received my silver widows for hd800. I was surprised how sleek and light the cable was. Build qualitity is ofc top notch as stated many times in this thread.

 

Bit about the sound quality:

 

For me it was clear from the start that these cables let you hear everything that is put into a record. Been listening to early Genesis albums and let me tell you that vocals and instruments sound so

real. It's like a layer of veil was removed compared to stock cables. Still it manages to sound so smooth and not any hard on ears. Everything sounds balanced from highs to bass and not any exaggerated.

 

Albums listened so far:

 

Genesis: Selling England by the pound

Genesis: Lamb lies down on the broadway

Genesis: Nursery cryme

Genesis: Foxtrot

Dead can dance: Anastasis

Ian Boddy: Liverdelphia

 

And my gear:

 

Sennheiser hd800

Brinkmann Integrated

Heavily modified Sony cdp-d12

 

+1 same experience with my HD800 + Silver Widow.

 

Nice biggrin.gif

post #3711 of 9483

place a small review x cable Donghi Frank, aka Toxic cables ... I bought from him a silver cord for my widow audeze lcd2 .. finally, after finishing the running of this wonderful craft cable, I can give my subjective point of view ... outstanding! point! joking aside, it is built with painstaking care .. completely finished with expensive French silk and a splitter for the final a y beautiful.really, I had to wait up to 14 weeks, but I have to say that the wait will is worth .the esthetic factor, it seems to have a small work of art in your hands, the sound is incredibly open and everything has improved nettamente.anche the soundstage of audeze, his little Achilles' heel, it is improved.all is much more 'airy and open, bass even more' dry, precise and definite, the senior most 'airy and dynamic ... Frank with this cable has created a small masterpiece and my heartfelt thanks audeze ... In short, if you want to a cable permanently, short of best headphones on the market, but by spending much less, this is what makes' x you.il price of this cable x 2.50 meters is around 300 pounds, shipping included, but includes a coating in French silk expensive, about £ 40, and a splitter from the cost of 10 euro .. wanting the cable it can also do more 'short and without coating and splitters spending much less certain .... and 14 weeks of waiting are not few, but you'll be rewarded with a truly definitive improvement mr.Donghi .. thanks! P.S. now it seems to have in my hands a Audeze LCD 3, x heard only a few hours since the double price compared to my ...google translate from italian..

post #3712 of 9483

Bravo Mauro.........:).........Well Written....

Nice to read your thoughts on and that  you are enjoying your new cable......Yes the wait is long but the demand is high and so is the quality...

"So.... you like a the French Silk ehhh ....You really are an Italian....."     beerchug.gif

post #3713 of 9483

also the eye wants its part ...ehehehehehgs1000.gif

post #3714 of 9483
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

Glad you like it and sorry for the extremely long wait. The SW does pair very well with the HE-500, depending on what you are after.


Yep, it works already pretty flawlessly. It just seems to hide nothing and just gives a very detailed image throughout the frequency range, even the lowest notes do come out really naturally. Some might think it's too detailed, but it's far from the "stereotypical" harsh silver sound. It's just Toxic and I like it. biggrin.gif

Let's see if I can produce something more of a review once I have more hours and experience on the great Silver Widow.

post #3715 of 9483

Hi Frank,

 

A bit quiet here may be due to long weekends biggrin.gif

 

Yesterday sent you another PM about SW after hearing good comments with HD800.

post #3716 of 9483

Just got my batch of cables in from Frank the other day, and figured I'd post a few pics and impressions. As always, I'm exceedingly impressed with the build and everything else about Frank's cables. Just top notch in my humble opinion. Yes, the wait is long, but there's a reason for that. And do you absolutely need those cables right now when they will hopefully serve in your system for many years? Waiting a bit is worth it, just like when ordering a CIEM or other hand built custom product. 

 

 

Starting with the Silver Poison cable for custom IEMs:

 

 

 

 

Just a beautiful cable - thin and manageable, yet substantial at the same time. Love the lack of memory wire too. I didn't listen to this much as they are going to be sent out to some other folks tomorrow for demo purposes. I had another Silver Poison that someone disappeared with, so I'm being a lot more careful about who I loan things to from now on. But Frank was kind enough to replace it for me - what a class act.

 

 

 

 

Next is the completely over the top Silver Widow (OCC Cryo silver with gold) for custom IEMs. This is purely for use at home only - Frank asked if I needed it flexible or if being on the stiffer side was OK. I told him do whatever it takes for pure SQ because I'll only use this at home directly in front of my gear, so flexibility is a non-issue in this case. Subsequently this is some thicker gauge stuff compared to the Silver Poison. It's a type 2 Litz cable where every strand within each wire has its own insulation, meaning none of he strands are in direct contact until the solder joint. Termination is a Neutrik 4-pin XLR for balanced operation. I did get an adapter for XLR to 1/4" made from OCC copper, for those times when I want to use a single-ended amplifier. In any case, I'm blown away by this cable - simply the best my CIEMs have ever sounded. Running the JH13pro FreqPhase from the balanced Silver Widow, driven by an AURALiC Taurus, fed by a Resonessence Labs Invicta playing DSD tracks from its SD Card player.... holy smokes does it sound good! It probably wouldn't work so well on the go, but that isn't really the point, is it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last but certainly not least is the balanced HD800 cable - an 18AWG version of the Copper Scorpion which uses fully Cryo'd OCC Copper in a Litz configuration. Notice the special connectors made just for HD800 - very nice. I went back and forth with Frank on which cable would be best for me, and in the end he recommended this one based on my feedback. He says he isn't even sure people know he has this option for HD800 what with all the Silver Poisons and such, but it's a very viable choice - the larger gauge plus OCC Copper translates to spectacular extension on both ends. Despite being on the thicker side, this cable is by no means unwieldy or difficult to deal with. In fact I prefer it to the original Sennheiser cable, which had a tendency to twist up in sharp angles and generally make a mess of itself. Once again, I use balanced operation a lot, but use the adapter pictured above for my single ended amps. I believe it is the same cable but in a higher gauge. In any case, I'm not disappointed in the least with this cable. Frank could have upsold a Silver Widow or even his RC-4 "ultimate" HD800 cable - but he didn't. I think it's worth noting how Frank is the type of guy to figure out what you want, rather than try to sell you the most expensive option regardless of your taste. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll have more thoughts on these excellent cables as I get more time with them For now, Just wanted to post some pics and note how pleased I am with Frank's service and attention to detail. Since I do this as something of a "professional" over at InnerFidelity, I deal with a lot of manufacturers on a regular basis. If only all of them operated on the same level as Frank.... it would make my job much easier. 

post #3717 of 9483
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

Just got my batch of cables in from Frank the other day, and figured I'd post a few pics and impressions. As always, I'm exceedingly impressed with the build and everything else about Frank's cables. Just top notch in my humble opinion. Yes, the wait is long, but there's a reason for that. And do you absolutely need those cables right now when they will hopefully serve in your system for many years? Waiting a bit is worth it, just like when ordering a CIEM or other hand built custom product. 

 

 

Starting with the Silver Poison cable for custom IEMs:

 

 

 

 

Just a beautiful cable - thin and manageable, yet substantial at the same time. Love the lack of memory wire too. I didn't listen to this much as they are going to be sent out to some other folks tomorrow for demo purposes. I had another Silver Poison that someone disappeared with, so I'm being a lot more careful about who I loan things to from now on. But Frank was kind enough to replace it for me - what a class act.

 

 

 

 

Next is the completely over the top Silver Widow (OCC Cryo silver with gold) for custom IEMs. This is purely for use at home only - Frank asked if I needed it flexible or if being on the stiffer side was OK. I told him do whatever it takes for pure SQ because I'll only use this at home directly in front of my gear, so flexibility is a non-issue in this case. Subsequently this is some thicker gauge stuff compared to the Silver Poison. It's a type 2 Litz cable where every strand within each wire has its own insulation, meaning none of he strands are in direct contact until the solder joint. Termination is a Neutrik 4-pin XLR for balanced operation. I did get an adapter for XLR to 1/4" made from OCC copper, for those times when I want to use a single-ended amplifier. In any case, I'm blown away by this cable - simply the best my CIEMs have ever sounded. Running the JH13pro FreqPhase from the balanced Silver Widow, driven by an AURALiC Taurus, fed by a Resonessence Labs Invicta playing DSD tracks from its SD Card player.... holy smokes does it sound good! It probably wouldn't work so well on the go, but that isn't really the point, is it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last but certainly not least is the balanced HD800 cable - an 18AWG version of the Copper Scorpion which uses fully Cryo'd OCC Copper in a Litz configuration. Notice the special connectors made just for HD800 - very nice. I went back and forth with Frank on which cable would be best for me, and in the end he recommended this one based on my feedback. He says he isn't even sure people know he has this option for HD800 what with all the Silver Poisons and such, but it's a very viable choice - the larger gauge plus OCC Copper translates to spectacular extension on both ends. Despite being on the thicker side, this cable is by no means unwieldy or difficult to deal with. In fact I prefer it to the original Sennheiser cable, which had a tendency to twist up in sharp angles and generally make a mess of itself. Once again, I use balanced operation a lot, but use the adapter pictured above for my single ended amps. I believe it is the same cable but in a higher gauge. In any case, I'm not disappointed in the least with this cable. Frank could have upsold a Silver Widow or even his RC-4 "ultimate" HD800 cable - but he didn't. I think it's worth noting how Frank is the type of guy to figure out what you want, rather than try to sell you the most expensive option regardless of your taste. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll have more thoughts on these excellent cables as I get more time with them For now, Just wanted to post some pics and note how pleased I am with Frank's service and attention to detail. Since I do this as something of a "professional" over at InnerFidelity, I deal with a lot of manufacturers on a regular basis. If only all of them operated on the same level as Frank.... it would make my job much easier. 

nice reviews.etysmile.gif

post #3718 of 9483
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

Just got my batch of cables in from Frank the other day, and figured I'd post a few pics and impressions. As always, I'm exceedingly impressed with the build and everything else about Frank's cables. Just top notch in my humble opinion. Yes, the wait is long, but there's a reason for that. And do you absolutely need those cables right now when they will hopefully serve in your system for many years? Waiting a bit is worth it, just like when ordering a CIEM or other hand built custom product. 

 

 

Starting with the Silver Poison cable for custom IEMs:

 

 

 

 

Just a beautiful cable - thin and manageable, yet substantial at the same time. Love the lack of memory wire too. I didn't listen to this much as they are going to be sent out to some other folks tomorrow for demo purposes. I had another Silver Poison that someone disappeared with, so I'm being a lot more careful about who I loan things to from now on. But Frank was kind enough to replace it for me - what a class act.

 

 

 

 

Next is the completely over the top Silver Widow (OCC Cryo silver with gold) for custom IEMs. This is purely for use at home only - Frank asked if I needed it flexible or if being on the stiffer side was OK. I told him do whatever it takes for pure SQ because I'll only use this at home directly in front of my gear, so flexibility is a non-issue in this case. Subsequently this is some thicker gauge stuff compared to the Silver Poison. It's a type 2 Litz cable where every strand within each wire has its own insulation, meaning none of he strands are in direct contact until the solder joint. Termination is a Neutrik 4-pin XLR for balanced operation. I did get an adapter for XLR to 1/4" made from OCC copper, for those times when I want to use a single-ended amplifier. In any case, I'm blown away by this cable - simply the best my CIEMs have ever sounded. Running the JH13pro FreqPhase from the balanced Silver Widow, driven by an AURALiC Taurus, fed by a Resonessence Labs Invicta playing DSD tracks from its SD Card player.... holy smokes does it sound good! It probably wouldn't work so well on the go, but that isn't really the point, is it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last but certainly not least is the balanced HD800 cable - an 18AWG version of the Copper Scorpion which uses fully Cryo'd OCC Copper in a Litz configuration. Notice the special connectors made just for HD800 - very nice. I went back and forth with Frank on which cable would be best for me, and in the end he recommended this one based on my feedback. He says he isn't even sure people know he has this option for HD800 what with all the Silver Poisons and such, but it's a very viable choice - the larger gauge plus OCC Copper translates to spectacular extension on both ends. Despite being on the thicker side, this cable is by no means unwieldy or difficult to deal with. In fact I prefer it to the original Sennheiser cable, which had a tendency to twist up in sharp angles and generally make a mess of itself. Once again, I use balanced operation a lot, but use the adapter pictured above for my single ended amps. I believe it is the same cable but in a higher gauge. In any case, I'm not disappointed in the least with this cable. Frank could have upsold a Silver Widow or even his RC-4 "ultimate" HD800 cable - but he didn't. I think it's worth noting how Frank is the type of guy to figure out what you want, rather than try to sell you the most expensive option regardless of your taste. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll have more thoughts on these excellent cables as I get more time with them For now, Just wanted to post some pics and note how pleased I am with Frank's service and attention to detail. Since I do this as something of a "professional" over at InnerFidelity, I deal with a lot of manufacturers on a regular basis. If only all of them operated on the same level as Frank.... it would make my job much easier. 

Nice. Going balanced for IEMs.

post #3719 of 9483

Yes, Frank is a wonderful guy and he also made me a 6ft Scorpion with RCA plug.  The workmanship is second to none and I totally agree that the waiting is worthy.  I am really happy with this 18AWG Scorpion and I have written a short comparsion of this cable with Oyaide and Cardas in the few pages back.  Scorpion beats the two cables by a very BIG margin.

 

I owned a 2nd HD800 and I have already placed my order with Frank for a 6ft 22 AWG Black Widow but having heard a few folks here saying that HD800 also performs extremely well with Silver Window I am now seriously considering changing the BW to SW.  Still waiting for Frank's PM reply L3000.gif

post #3720 of 9483
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Originally Posted by inter voice View Post

Yes, Frank is a wonderful guy and he also made me a 6ft Scorpion with RCA plug.  The workmanship is second to none and I totally agree that the waiting is worthy.  I am really happy with this 18AWG Scorpion and I have written a short comparsion of this cable with Oyaide and Cardas in the few pages back.  Scorpion beats the two cables by a very BIG margin.

 

I owned a 2nd HD800 and I have already placed my order with Frank for a 6ft 22 AWG Black Widow but having heard a few folks here saying that HD800 also performs extremely well with Silver Window I am now seriously considering changing the BW to SW.  Still waiting for Frank's PM reply L3000.gif

 

I think the question you need to ask youyrself is 'is your system verging on being too bright with the HD800's?'

 

If the answer is yes then probably the BW would be a better choice.

If no then the SW will not add to the brightness has plenty of tight bass and extremely detailed and very fast. As the last 3 attributes are HD800 strengths anyway I assume more will be preferred.  wink_face.gif

 

P.S I have 3 SW cables for my HD800, LCD2.2 & HE6.  biggrin.gif

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