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post #3676 of 9364
Could someone PLEASE define each of the cables that are available and what they are best suited for?
I look on the Toxic Cable web site and there appears to be nothing on the White Widow, Black Widow, Dilver widow and how they compare to the Silver Poison etc? I have LCD2.2 and I would like to assess the different cables to decide on a purchase. It is almost impossible to get a response from a query made on the site and I don't want to spend several hundred not knowing anything about what I am buying.

Specifically what are the differences in White Widow, black Widow, silver Widow, and Silver Poison? Which is BEST recommended cable for LCD2.2 phones?
post #3677 of 9364
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Originally Posted by commtrd View Post

Could someone PLEASE define each of the cables that are available and what they are best suited for?
I look on the Toxic Cable web site and there appears to be nothing on the White Widow, Black Widow, Dilver widow and how they compare to the Silver Poison etc? I have LCD2.2 and I would like to assess the different cables to decide on a purchase. It is almost impossible to get a response from a query made on the site and I don't want to spend several hundred not knowing anything about what I am buying.

Specifically what are the differences in White Widow, black Widow, silver Widow, and Silver Poison? Which is BEST recommended cable for LCD2.2 phones?

 

It may help if you read the previous 2-3 pages... just saying.

post #3678 of 9364
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Originally Posted by commtrd View Post

Could someone PLEASE define each of the cables that are available and what they are best suited for?
I look on the Toxic Cable web site and there appears to be nothing on the White Widow, Black Widow, Dilver widow and how they compare to the Silver Poison etc? I have LCD2.2 and I would like to assess the different cables to decide on a purchase. It is almost impossible to get a response from a query made on the site and I don't want to spend several hundred not knowing anything about what I am buying.

Specifically what are the differences in White Widow, black Widow, silver Widow, and Silver Poison? Which is BEST recommended cable for LCD2.2 phones?

You could also PM or email Frank and ask him. He can't comment on his cables' tonal qualities in here, but he can recommend them to you based on your preferences. That's how I made my decision before ordering the cable.

And of course I first read all the 187 pages this thread then had, there are a lot of good comments and reviews by all these great Head-Fi enthusiasts.

 

-LP-


Edited by LPP6 - 5/20/13 at 12:23pm
post #3679 of 9364
I have tried repeatedly to get some feedback and finally got a reply but no answers to queries about the other cables. I guess Frank is very busy to spend time answering questions. Reading all I can would indicate the Silver Poison might fix me up but would really like to know about Silver Widow, White Widow, and Black Widow before deciding. I can't find any reviews on the White Widow but did find one on the Silver Poison. It was positive so may buy one of those.
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There was one person who referenced a Black Widow being copper Litz not sure what that means. Not what I need for LCD2.2 so strike that one. Another guy talked about Wjite Widow but nothing in depth at all and was paired with Senn HD650 IIRC. Again no help with my rig. I did find another thread on Silver Poison with Mjolnir/Gungnir and very positive. Trying to see if a cable will get me closer to a LCD3 without having to buy one. Cheapskate!
Anyway that's probably what I will end up trying.
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As stated in my first reply to you, i wanted to make your aware of the long wait times i have before proceeding with and order, and asked you to reply if this was OK and we can go ahead.

 

Silver Widow, Type 2 Litz OCC Cryo Silver + Gold 25.5AWG.

 

Virus, Type 2 Litz OCC Cryo Silver + Copper, available in both 26 and 22AWG. This cable utilises strands of both pure Silver and Copper withing the same wire, a true hybrid. Unlike the silver plated copper, many call a hybrid.

 

Black Widow, Type 2 Litz OCC Cryo Copper 22AWG. Also available in 24AWG in both Cotton and French Silk sleeving.

 

White Widow, Type 2 Litz OCC Cryo Silver plated Copper, available in both 22 and 26AWG.

 

Litz wire, is where every strand within the wire has been individually insulated, so no two strands in the wire are making contact until the solder joint. It's very much like having a 500-1000 wire cable. biggrin.gif

post #3682 of 9364
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There was one person who referenced a Black Widow being copper Litz not sure what that means. Not what I need for LCD2.2 so strike that one. Another guy talked about Wjite Widow but nothing in depth at all and was paired with Senn HD650 IIRC. Again no help with my rig. I did find another thread on Silver Poison with Mjolnir/Gungnir and very positive. Trying to see if a cable will get me closer to a LCD3 without having to buy one. Cheapskate!
Anyway that's probably what I will end up trying.


in short...its considered to go for silver widow if u have the lcd 2 or lcd 2 ver.2 ... gs1000.gif

 

ps...no matter what cable u use...but sorry to say it..the lcd 2 will NEVER EVER COME CLOSE to the lcd3....everyone knows that. so u maybe can better start saving money for the LCD3's instead of buying a cable?..and if u do have the lcd3 then get the toxic cable silver venom..and ur in audio heaven and deadbroke.. biggrin.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 5/20/13 at 2:37pm
post #3683 of 9364
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Originally Posted by commtrd View Post

There was one person who referenced a Black Widow being copper Litz not sure what that means. Not what I need for LCD2.2 so strike that one. Another guy talked about Wjite Widow but nothing in depth at all and was paired with Senn HD650 IIRC. Again no help with my rig. I did find another thread on Silver Poison with Mjolnir/Gungnir and very positive. Trying to see if a cable will get me closer to a LCD3 without having to buy one. Cheapskate!
Anyway that's probably what I will end up trying.


in short...its considered to go for silver widow if u have the lcd 2 or lcd 2 ver.2 ... gs1000.gif

 

ps...no matter what cable u use...but sorry to say it..the lcd 2 will NEVER EVER COME CLOSE to the lcd3....everyone knows that. so u maybe can better start saving money for the LCD3's instead of buying a cable?..and if u do have the lcd3 then get the toxic cable silver venom..and ur in audio heaven and deadbroke.. biggrin.gif

You know how this works...He'll order the LCD-3's and then STILL order the White Widows!......evil_smiley.gif

 

THIS IS HEAD-FI!!!!

post #3684 of 9364
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You know how this works...He'll order the LCD-3's and then STILL order the White Widows!......evil_smiley.gif

 

THIS IS HEAD-FI!!!!


Madness! biggrin.gif

post #3685 of 9364

C'mon guys have a little faith here! I think I have it narrowed down to either the Silver Widow or the Silver Poison. I think either one will work fine with LCD3s if I ever get around to ordering those cans. I am getting set up to go full self employed again so the LCD3s will just have to wait a while so in the meantime I thought I would try a cable with my LCD2.2s even though they may not be quite as good as the 3s, they are still very nice phones (not exactly slumming here!) so will see how it goes. Frank supposed to reply with recommendations here shortly then I will get a cable ordered.

post #3686 of 9364

OK Silver Widow it is! Soon as Frank tells me what to do to finalize the order it's a done deal. I think it will be a nice addition to my little system.

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OK Silver Widow it is! Soon as Frank tells me what to do to finalize the order it's a done deal. I think it will be a nice addition to my little system.

You have made the right choice....

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You have made the right choice....
And the start of a very big hole in ur wallet...I KNOW redface.gif
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And the start of a very big hole in ur wallet...I KNOW redface.gif

Well here's some rationalization: I have a SS amp so no tube rolling! How 'bout that one!?! Besides my audio habit just means so much to me that if that's the worst I do then I am just fine. Compared to all the money I have spent on boats and trucks my headphone system is basically a tiny blip on the radar. Like not even there... And lets not start talking about my photography gear either. Although I do make money with that.

 

I have always loved music and I love it even more now. I need to figure out a way to audition the LCD3s...

post #3690 of 9364
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I need to figure out a way to audition the LCD3s...

One way to do it: http://www.thecableco.com/Product/NEW-Headphone-Lending-Library
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