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post #2911 of 9356
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I recommend in the oven at 350 for 30 minutes.....biggrin.gif

 

And bump it up to the max for the final 5 minutes for added crispness.

post #2912 of 9356

I put mine in the tanning bed.

 

Nice golden burn in.

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Originally Posted by mwindham08 View Post

I put mine in the tanning bed.

 

Nice golden burn in.

That is quite amusing.

 

Okay, cables, burn in, lets talk about it

 

Even if you don't believe cables burn in, letting them sit with a load going through them for hundreds of hours is not going to effect it's ability to last a long time (since virtually no wear from usage over these burn-in hours) and if it doesn't add anything, then no harm done. From this standpoint, if you have a problem with people burning in cables then talk to them directly, don't argue it here as people will do what makes them happy and it really isn't the worst thing in the world. 

 

So my personal views:

Certain metals need longer to burn in, particularly pure silver I find takes the longest. I notice small nuances that develop/become more apparent as the cable goes from brand new to burnt in. It's a very small amount I wouldn't notice other than using it day in and day out when burning in a cable/using it like normal. 

 

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With pure silver cables I've noticed changes in soundstage openness and analytics up to and past 300 hours of usage. Different cables will take different lengths of time though, but Silver is usually considered the type of metal that takes the longest to reach it's fullest potential (if you believe in burn in)


Edited by kenman345 - 4/1/13 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I recommend in the oven at 350 for 30 minutes.....biggrin.gif

 

 

30 minutes, takes less then 3 seconds with my blowtorch. biggrin.gif
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Honestly I know nothing on the matter so I will be precautious. First of all, my opinion is that it should not be a matter of belief. We are not talking about religion here. Either there are scientific reasons to advocate for it or there aren't. Second thing, I really do not know how you can audibly measure cable burn in since amps and Iems also burn in, supposedly. Which part is caused by what ? The only burn in I have clearly identified is a tube amp having less hiss with Iems after 150 hours. But that is all just my take and I know nothing beyond my simple experience.
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Originally Posted by kenman345 View Post

That is quite amusing.

Okay, cables, burn in, lets talk about it

Even if you don't believe cables burn in, letting them sit with a load going through them for hundreds of hours is not going to effect it's ability to last a long time (since virtually no wear from usage over these burn-in hours) and if it doesn't add anything, then no harm done. From this standpoint, if you have a problem with people burning in cables then talk to them directly, don't argue it here as people will do what makes them happy and it really isn't the worst thing in the world. 

So my personal views:
Certain metals need longer to burn in, particularly pure silver I find takes the longest. I notice small nuances that develop/become more apparent as the cable goes from brand new to burnt in. It's a very small amount I wouldn't notice other than using it day in and day out when burning in a cable/using it like normal. 

EDIT:
With pure silver cables I've noticed changes in soundstage openness and analytics up to and past 300 hours of usage. Different cables will take different lengths of time though, but Silver is usually considered the type of metal that takes the longest to reach it's fullest potential (if you believe in burn in)
post #2917 of 9356
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Honestly I know nothing on the matter so I will be precautious. First of all, my opinion is that it should not be a matter of belief. We are not talking about religion here. Either there are scientific reasons to advocate for it or there aren't. Second thing, I really do not know how you can audibly measure cable burn in since amps and Iems also burn in, supposedly. Which part is caused by what ? The only burn in I have clearly identified is a tube amp having less hiss with Iems after 150 hours. But that is all just my take and I know nothing beyond my simple experience.

You're completely right in this regard and many people don't believe their is any burn in effect to any devices at all. I can only go by what I've heard and read from others that I believe. Some may argue I'm crazy for it though. But this is not the place for this discussion. 

 

Only burn-in talk here should be about Franks burn-in systems or the effects of a torch to a cable.....

post #2918 of 9356

Can we take this discussion to the appropriate forum please.

 

There will always be things one believes in that others don't, that's just how it is and no matter what argument one might have, trust your own judgement/ears before anything someone else has to say and that's the end of that.  

 

If you believe in cable burn in, that's great, if you don't then that's also great. As far as i am concerned you are both right, as that's your own belief.

 

I am a firm believer, no one will ever change that opinion. God has already provided me with the best scientific equipment on this planet, my very own ears.


Edited by Toxic Cables - 4/1/13 at 11:24am
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yes, I agree..

 

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I. Agree also...this is a debate no one can win..just like believing whether cables attribute to the sound or not..u have two parties who deeply believe the opposite of the others believes..and there are other historical debates..as frank said..find the right debate thread and go wildbiggrin.gif

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yes, I agree..

 

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yes, I agree..

 

Dude, that was hilarious =))) 

post #2923 of 9356

Just a note, once the thread hits 3000 posts, i will randomly pick someone to receive one of my new true full hybrid cables.

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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

Just a note, once the thread hits 3000 posts, i will randomly pick someone to receive one of my new true full hybrid cables.

That's really generous of you Frank. Will you choose between those people who have bought your cables or have posted in this thread?

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That's really generous of you Frank. Will you choose between those people who have bought your cables or have posted in this thread?

Quick! Everyone flood his email and this thread.....

 

EDIT: Just having some fun. This sounds like a nice way to give back to those loyal to you. Will it be limited to within the country for you? Or is anyone around the world able to win?

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