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post #2356 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Paul Graham View Post

At the end of the day they can try and fail.

We all know better anyway.

 

Sorry if we've derailed your thread mate.

 

Once I have that custom hd25 cable I'll put a review up 

and like I said Im gonna work on the SP review very soon.

 

Lastly and most annoyingly of me to ask...

Did you send out the Pelican yet? Just getting an idea of when to stick around at home lol.

Pelican? What u use a bird for? Weird dude u are...be carefull though..black widows tend to eat birds very_evil_smiley.gif Kidding..just trying to be the funny note here after my serious post biggrin.gif

post #2357 of 9358

Umm, Frank can you possibly post an update of all the current different cables and their make up please.

I know you have done this somewhere but now you have added some new ones also.......

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And I thought I was a mad man!

Feel free to add me on facebook

I fear I tell my name and I may knock you off your crazy perch though.......

 

Snowy Floating-Budda Fluffernutterweatherman Hoskin.blink.gif

 

 

 

I'm aiming to have the longest and most random name on failbook darthsmile.gif

post #2359 of 9358
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Guys..strange things happen on this beloved forum lately...like this thingie that i feel i have to share with u my friends..

u all know i am very open and very direct and am not afraid to express what i think or feel about products i owned or owe right now or situations i get into....some of u even consider me a bit crazy (the ones who call me crazy know who i mean..lolz) .and well maybe i am.. But lately since i am a bit active on this particular thread i sometimes feel like i am a knight of the round table..defending the realm of toxic cables..redface.gif i say this..and believe me..i am totally not into company politics..but..after long thought i feel its my duty to open up to u guys about certain things that honestly bothers me more and more...

the thing is this:

 

since i am active and very direct in my way of posting i have been contacted BY PM by competitors (or indirect by affialited people) explaining me in long pm's how bad and dishonest frank must be..most recent example is a PM from someone from Headphone Lounge...why do they feel to contact me? Until now i never ever replied to any if those pm's..i only reply to personal pm's about questions I DID..i consider those pm's as unsollicited mail..and therefore read them and delete them. Honestly i think they are trying to get Franks customers (or at least the ones who are in their eyes the most loyal/active..poor me) on their side. In my opinion its really wrong that other cable makers are contacting franks most loyal  customers directly after seeing their names on his appreciation thread. Maybe its me..and maybe i am a bit paranoia..but hey..why do that in the first place..dont they know we are smart enough to have our own opinions?

after the 2nd received pm from a competitor i contacted frank..i normally dont do that as i know he is a busy man..(i prefer asking questions on the thread as u all know by now as then he can take his time to answer..lolz) so me fuzzing bout certain competitors would only maybe make him irritated i guessed.... But After 2 mails he asked me to let him know if any competitors would contact me again ( i did that last night at 4am by the way)..and him asking me that gave me a feeling they maybe also contacted others in the past?...what i respect in frank is that eventhough i told him i was contacted again..he stayed relaxed and respectfull..and said its a competitive market.NOT EVEN 1ONE BAD WORD...yes..thats frank i know from this thread.....so  i don't think this is the first time this has happened to him so i guess he stopped to worry about other cable makers messaging his customers. But i felt i had to open up..

 

anyone else contacted in this way?Am really curious bout that...if i go a bridge to far..well..i am only telling the truth here..and the truth can be harsch....sorry..but this burden was weighing to heavy on my conscience....and then i just let it out..if i offended anyone..well..u know the drill...biggrin.gif And thanks for reading.

 

edit: sorry frank..but just couldnt keep quiet anymore

 

I have had them as well....All we can and should do is reply with our honest opinions. I know I would buy from Frank again without any hesitation. I have not bought from the other vendors, I do not know how things have gone for their clients. I can only speak about my own experience which has been consistently positive.

 

Keep the good times coming Frank!  

 

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post #2360 of 9358
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Originally Posted by maguire View Post

Umm, Frank can you possibly post an update of all the current different cables and their make up please.

I know you have done this somewhere but now you have added some new ones also.......

Mwwohahahahahahahaha!.....That would be too easy! (We do keep asking...biggrin.gif )

post #2361 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

To be honest, this is getting quite tiring and old, contacting someone else's customer to talk negatively about them is something i would never to, it's just wrong in my opinion. I don't even talk negatively about competitors to my own customers, let alone go as far as to contact their.

 

I would have reported this as i have been asked to, as this has happened before, but did not want to drag my customers in to this. I hope mods will do something about this, as these people have been warned about this and using the facilities of this forum to speak of competitors.

 

I really cannot be bothered with all that anymore, i have wasted to much time on things like this already.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Guys..strange things happen on this beloved forum lately...like this thingie that i feel i have to share with u my friends..

u all know i am very open and very direct and am not afraid to express what i think or feel about products i owned or owe right now or situations i get into....some of u even consider me a bit crazy (the ones who call me crazy know who i mean..lolz) .and well maybe i am.. But lately since i am a bit active on this particular thread i sometimes feel like i am a knight of the round table..defending the realm of toxic cables..redface.gif i say this..and believe me..i am totally not into company politics..but..after long thought i feel its my duty to open up to u guys about certain things that honestly bothers me more and more...

the thing is this:

 

since i am active and very direct in my way of posting i have been contacted BY PM by competitors (or indirect by affialited people) explaining me in long pm's how bad and dishonest frank must be..most recent example is a PM from someone from Headphone Lounge...why do they feel to contact me? Until now i never ever replied to any if those pm's..i only reply to personal pm's about questions I DID..i consider those pm's as unsollicited mail..and therefore read them and delete them. Honestly i think they are trying to get Franks customers (or at least the ones who are in their eyes the most loyal/active..poor me) on their side. In my opinion its really wrong that other cable makers are contacting franks most loyal  customers directly after seeing their names on his appreciation thread. Maybe its me..and maybe i am a bit paranoia..but hey..why do that in the first place..dont they know we are smart enough to have our own opinions?

after the 2nd received pm from a competitor i contacted frank..i normally dont do that as i know he is a busy man..(i prefer asking questions on the thread as u all know by now as then he can take his time to answer..lolz) so me fuzzing bout certain competitors would only maybe make him irritated i guessed.... But After 2 mails he asked me to let him know if any competitors would contact me again ( i did that last night at 4am by the way)..and him asking me that gave me a feeling they maybe also contacted others in the past?...what i respect in frank is that eventhough i told him i was contacted again..he stayed relaxed and respectfull..and said its a competitive market.NOT EVEN 1ONE BAD WORD...yes..thats frank i know from this thread.....so  i don't think this is the first time this has happened to him so i guess he stopped to worry about other cable makers messaging his customers. But i felt i had to open up..

 

anyone else contacted in this way?Am really curious bout that...if i go a bridge to far..well..i am only telling the truth here..and the truth can be harsch....sorry..but this burden was weighing to heavy on my conscience....and then i just let it out..if i offended anyone..well..u know the drill...biggrin.gif And thanks for reading.

 

edit: sorry frank..but just couldnt keep quiet anymore

 

I have been contacted by one of Frank competitors as well for something I have wrote here . It was a post that did not even contain his name or his companys' name, but he was offended. He accused me that I wrote that post on Franks behalf :)) . That is ridiculous as I did not even receive my cable yet, and never spoke with Frank about this.

 

So it seems like Frank became a too serious competitor. If they knew how to play fairly they would have given all the information needed about their products on their website and minded their own business, not trying to troll other appreciation threads as this is not the way to compete, and I think they will soon find out for themselves.

 

Instead of loosing time here with this, they should try improving their cables, as that is the solution, not reading every post from the competitions'  and take on every customer or potential customer  .


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 2/7/13 at 2:38pm
post #2362 of 9358
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Originally Posted by maguire View Post

Umm, Frank can you possibly post an update of all the current different cables and their make up please.

I know you have done this somewhere but now you have added some new ones also.......

biggrin.gif I will make a list this weekend, i promise.

 

The old list is on page 85. The White Widow prices are for 26AWG, i also have 22AWG which i forgot about biggrin.gif, i will work out the prices of all cables over the weekend.

post #2363 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

biggrin.gif I will make a list this weekend, i promise.

 

The old list is on page 85. The White Widow prices are for 26AWG, i also have 22AWG which i forgot about biggrin.gif, i will work out the prices of all cables over the weekend.

I can see it now...a 10 GB .pdf of all the varieties complete with color hi rez photos!  biggrin.gif

post #2364 of 9358
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I can see it now...a 10 GB .pdf of all the varieties complete with color hi rez photos!  biggrin.gif

biggrin.gif Pictures will come later, when i get a chance to take some. I am making 148 headphone cables in the current batch, so i will be able to take new pictures of most of my line up. Will take a picture with all 148 cables together also, will look awesome.

post #2365 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

biggrin.gif Pictures will come later, when i get a chance to take some. I am making 148 headphone cables in the current batch, so i will be able to take new pictures of most of my line up. Will take a picture with all 148 cables together also, will look awesome.

Don't get too happy guys biggrin.gif, the above cables only cover orders up to 17th December, running bit behind. The next batch will cover all orders up to 20th Jan and so on.


Edited by Toxic Cables - 2/7/13 at 2:59pm
post #2366 of 9358
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

 

 

I have been contacted by one of Frank competitors as well for something I have wrote here . It was a post that did not even contain his name or his companys' name, but he was offended. He accused me that I wrote that post on Franks behalf :)) . That is ridiculous as I did not even receive my cable yet, and never spoke with Frank about this.

 

So it seems like Frank became a too serious competitor. If they knew how to play fairly they would have given all the information needed about their products on their website and minded their own business, not trying to troll other appreciation threads as this is not the way to compete, and I think they will soon find out for themselves.

 

Instead of loosing time here with this, they should try improving their cables, as that is the solution, not reading every post from the competitions'  and take on every customer or potential customer  .

Looks like this is more widespread then i thought, oh well.

 

I don't believe i have ever spoken negatively of anyone else's product, when i am asked by customers how they compare, i always say that i don't speak of another's product. Hell, i don't even give customers impressions of my own cables and direct them to this thread instead. biggrin.gif

post #2367 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

Looks like this is more widespread then i thought, oh well.

 

I don't believe i have ever spoken negatively of anyone else's product, when i am asked by customers how they compare, i always say that i don't speak of another's product. Hell, i don't even give customers impressions of my own cables and direct them to this thread instead. biggrin.gif

Amen to that..true spoken as the light on the dark road called cable market biggrin.gif

post #2368 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Paul Graham View Post

And I thought I was a mad man!

Feel free to add me on facebook

I fear I tell my name and I may knock you off your crazy perch though.......

 

Snowy Floating-Budda Fluffernutterweatherman Hoskin.blink.gif

 

 

 

I'm aiming to have the longest and most random name on failbook darthsmile.gif

Well..i admit..u win..happy now..damn..never thought anyone would come close to my craziness...wink.gif

post #2369 of 9358
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I can see it now...a 10 GB .pdf of all the varieties complete with color hi rez photos!  biggrin.gif

Ru nuts??? Do u want frank to end up in the loony house? Give him time... But..well..plz plz plz frank..maybe a 5 GB pdf with medium res pics..u see i am sparing him a bit..biggrin.gif

post #2370 of 9358
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post
 Hell, i don't even give customers impressions of my own cables and direct them to this thread instead. biggrin.gif

 

with reviews all written by you biggrin.gif

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