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post #1321 of 9347
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post


Totally understandable, so the new silver widow is basically an updated "better" version of the silver poison?


I'm interested in that as well. I know that Crystal Cable, Mundorf and others add 1% gold to their cables to make sure that there are no impuritites and "empty holes" inside of the wire. I don't know if more than one percent does indeed make a difference in sound quality or only sound impressive on paper... On the other hand, I trust Frank and doubt that he would introduce a new cable that doesn't sound as well or better than the other ones he's offering at the moment.

post #1322 of 9347
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Originally Posted by AManAnd88Keys View Post


I'm interested in that as well. I know that Crystal Cable, Mundorf and others add 1% gold to their cables to make sure that there are no impuritites and "empty holes" inside of the wire. I don't know if more than one percent does indeed make a difference in sound quality or only sound impressive on paper... On the other hand, I trust Frank and doubt that he would introduce a new cable that doesn't sound as well or better than the other ones he's offering at the moment.


Mundorf zendo cables have been out before toxic SP cables as far as I know and they use 1% gold content as well. Lots of companies copied the SP because of the big success of this cable.

 

I'm pretty confident though that Frank would not release a cable with a higher gold content only for marketing purposes. Gold has worse conductivity than silver according to the tables (while silver beats copper), the gold is purely added to close the gaps between the last crystals (crystal length should be around 2-3metres already with UPOCC like Frank is using). People will start comparing the cables sooner or later (rather sooner wink_face.gif) and it would only hurt him to release a cable with more gold content if it would have no use at all. If adding more gold would always just sound better Frank would also not need to keep the amount of gold in the silver widow as a secret because any other company could just add a slightly higher gold content to release a "better" version. Therefore I'm pretty confident that the silver widow will indeed outperform the SP (looking forward to it since I'm going to order one soon normal_smile%20.gif) but I also find it very unlikely that there will be another cable coming out from Frank any time in the future featuring an even higher gold content.

 

The piccolino should be an exception since there is gold between the strands but the strands themselves are similar to the SP (silver + gold, not sure about the gold content here). The only thing I could think of (depending on the amount of gold in the current piccolino) that there could possibly be an improved version of the piccolino some time in the future. I'm awfully sorry for your wallets already ... normal_smile%20.gif

post #1323 of 9347

The Silver Widow does slightly improve upon the SP, if there was no improvements, i would not be releasing another stranded silver/gold cable, especially not when this new wire costs me nearly twice as much as the SP.

 

I don't want to say much else, most of you will know that i don't like talking of the improvements you will hear with my cables, as i like to leave that to all of you.

 

I will say one thing, the detail resolution you will hear with this cable, is insane.

post #1324 of 9347
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Originally Posted by Toxic Cables View Post

The Silver Widow does slightly improve upon the SP, if there was no improvements, i would not be releasing another stranded silver/gold cable, especially not when this new wire costs me nearly twice as much as the SP.

I don't want to say much else, most of you will know that i don't like talking of the improvements you will hear with my cables, as i like to leave that to all of you.

I will say one thing, the detail resolution you will hear with this cable, is insane.

Dammit Frank! Now you're making me want the silver widow more.

I'm looking forward to some impressions of the silver widow, preferably compared to the SP, as i understand that some have already shipped.
post #1325 of 9347
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Dammit Frank! Now you're making me want the silver widow more.
I'm looking forward to some impressions of the silver widow, preferably compared to the SP, as i understand that some have already shipped.

 

If I find some spare cash in my wallet, I'll make sure to pick up a SW and compare it to my SP. redface.gif

post #1326 of 9347
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Originally Posted by DarknightDK View Post


Dammit Frank! Now you're making me want the silver widow more.
I'm looking forward to some impressions of the silver widow, preferably compared to the SP, as i understand that some have already shipped.

 Silver Widow has not started shipping yet, hopefully we will have some impressions next weekend.

post #1327 of 9347

@ Frank:

 

Can you make the silver widow cable with an iphone remote?

post #1328 of 9347
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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

@ Frank:

 

Can you make the silver widow cable with an iphone remote?

I have stopped offering cables with remote, they take too long to make.

post #1329 of 9347

Here are a couple of pictures of the final, Silver Widow prototype. The final cable i will be receiving on Monday will look exactly the same.

 

Second picture shows it next to the Silver Poison.

 

 

700 700

Beautiful!


Edited by Toxic Cables - 12/7/12 at 7:31am
post #1330 of 9347

Gosh, they do look very beautiful...

post #1331 of 9347

On that second picture- which cable is which?

post #1332 of 9347
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

Yep, one of them is posting emoticons and the other is posting essay long responses. LOL biggrin.gif
If u only knew how close u are with this post..i will tell ya..i am from portuguese blood and am now residing in the netherlands.thats why i am rightfull, hate injustice, love to find good deals, helpful,direct, honest and inspector gadget biggrin.gif and on the other hand my portuguese blood makes me passionate, talkative, deadly determined, social minded and a total weirdo...

and that all in the mix makes me the weirdo using a million emoticons posting long essays.. biggrin.gif
post #1333 of 9347
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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

On that second picture- which cable is which?
As far i can see the upper one is the silver widow..
Edited by hifimanrookie - 12/7/12 at 10:18am
post #1334 of 9347

Those silver widow cables look stunning and seem to be a thicker gauge as compared to the SPs.

post #1335 of 9347
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Originally Posted by DarknightDK View Post

Those silver widow cables look stunning and seem to be a thicker gauge as compared to the SPs.
Yummy... Indeed..biggrin.gif
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