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post #406 of 451
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Originally Posted by NoOneLt View Post

I believe it will serve You well, You won't need any amp for it, maybe in future, but amp will not make it sound better, as SB Z DAC will be Your bottleneck. I'am using ZxR for music and games, Z have 100% same software features so should be as good in games. If Yuo most into games/music don't try to go super Hi-End it is not the case, games as source for sound is rarely a very HQ source, maybe movies, but IMO movies in headphones is not as enjoyable as external set-up in any case smily_headphones1.gif

And Aune T1 won't give You game features like DolbyHeadphone or Creative SBX surround, witch is very useful in game. Only if You will send processed signal to Aune RCA inputs.

I believe only music can open external dac/amp potential, wouldn't bother with gaming..

Both games and movies can sometimes sound very good...
Much like with music it varies from piece to piece.
post #407 of 451
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Originally Posted by NoOneLt View Post
 

I believe it will serve You well, You won't need any amp for it, maybe in future, but amp will not make it sound better, as SB Z DAC will be Your bottleneck. I'am using ZxR for music and games, Z have 100% same software features so should be as good in games. If Yuo most into games/music don't try to go super Hi-End it is not the case, games as source for sound is rarely a very HQ source, maybe movies, but IMO movies in headphones is not as enjoyable as external set-up in any case :)

 

And Aune T1 won't give You game features like DolbyHeadphone or Creative SBX surround, witch is very useful in game. Only if You will send processed signal to Aune RCA inputs.

 

I believe only music can open external dac/amp potential, wouldn't bother with gaming..

 

I have not had the need to try something like this yet, however you should be able to have surround sound processing on an external dac/amp:

http://www.razerzone.com/surround

 

So, best of both worlds?  I think they are :)

post #408 of 451
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

I have not had the need to try something like this yet, however you should be able to have surround sound processing on an external dac/amp:

http://www.razerzone.com/surround

 

So, best of both worlds?  I think they are :)

Yep, with this stuff it is possible, i just don't know how good it is, have not tried it :) But somewhere in last pages of ZxR thread one guy made large comparison between different surround systems, maybe Razer soft also there.

post #409 of 451
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Originally Posted by NoOneLt View Post
 

I believe it will serve You well, You won't need any amp for it, maybe in future, but amp will not make it sound better, as SB Z DAC will be Your bottleneck. I'am using ZxR for music and games, Z have 100% same software features so should be as good in games. If Yuo most into games/music don't try to go super Hi-End it is not the case, games as source for sound is rarely a very HQ source, maybe movies, but IMO movies in headphones is not as enjoyable as external set-up in any case :)

 

And Aune T1 won't give You game features like DolbyHeadphone or Creative SBX surround, witch is very useful in game. Only if You will send processed signal to Aune RCA inputs.

 

I believe only music can open external dac/amp potential, wouldn't bother with gaming..

Hi. So you believe it's best to buy a sound card. I saw some reports that gaming is good to have Dolby / Surround sound cards that provide. Some believe so a sound card is better than amp / dac, correct?
What you say about the Xonar Essence ST? It's as good as the Sound Blaster ZXR? I found the Xonar for a better price ...
Thank you.

post #410 of 451
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

 

I have not had the need to try something like this yet, however you should be able to have surround sound processing on an external dac/amp:

http://www.razerzone.com/surround

 

So, best of both worlds?  I think they are :)

So I can have an amp / dac and surround at the same time without having a sound card? The amp / dac provides dolby headphone? Excuse my lack of understanding, I'm newcomer.

post #411 of 451
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

 

I have not had the need to try something like this yet, however you should be able to have surround sound processing on an external dac/amp:

 

So, best of both worlds?  I think they are :)

So I can have an amp/dac and surround at the same time without having a sound card? The amp/dac provides dolby headphone? Excuse my lack of understanding, I'm newcomer.

post #412 of 451
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Originally Posted by Pedrosotto View Post
 

So I can have an amp/dac and surround at the same time without having a sound card? The amp/dac provides dolby headphone? Excuse my lack of understanding, I'm newcomer.

Hey, in this case Razor software makes surround (taking 5.1 channels from game and downmixes it to 2.0, at least it SOHULD do so) and outputs it in stereo format to whatever it can output, so then your ext. AMP/DAC do his work. I bought ZxR just to save space on table and SBX surround features for games.

 

In any case i don't say it is superior over quality external amp/dac (99% it is inferior :) ) People say Xonar STX sound better out of the box then ZxR but again, there is different in surround, ASUS have DolbyHeadphone ant Creative SBX surround. 

 

Tho choice You wan't to make have many options and no correct answer as mostly depend's on Your believes.

post #413 of 451
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Originally Posted by Pedrosotto View Post
 

So I can have an amp/dac and surround at the same time without having a sound card? The amp/dac provides dolby headphone? Excuse my lack of understanding, I'm newcomer.

There is sound processing software that would work with an external dac/amp.  I have not done extensive testing, so I cannot comment on latency, etc.

 

I do not think that external dac/amps can provide Dolby alone, but there are other proprietary sound enhancers such as the one I linked above.

 

If you want Dolby specifically, can get a cheap Xonar, such as the DG, and feed you DAC/Amp through the optical transport. This reduces the number of desktop choices you have, but meh :D

post #414 of 451
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Originally Posted by NoOneLt View Post
 

Hey, in this case Razor software makes surround (taking 5.1 channels from game and downmixes it to 2.0, at least it SOHULD do so) and outputs it in stereo format to whatever it can output, so then your ext. AMP/DAC do his work. I bought ZxR just to save space on table and SBX surround features for games.

 

In any case i don't say it is superior over quality external amp/dac (99% it is inferior :) ) People say Xonar STX sound better out of the box then ZxR but again, there is different in surround, ASUS have DolbyHeadphone ant Creative SBX surround. 

 

Tho choice You wan't to make have many options and no correct answer as mostly depend's on Your believes.

Thank you. You're right, there are many options and many may be correct. I simplified my options between:
1. Yulong U100 + Razor Surround.
2. Asus DGX + O2

I think both can produce a good sound for games and movies with the ATH-A900X.

post #415 of 451
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Originally Posted by Pedrosotto View Post
 

Hi. So you believe it's best to buy a sound card. I saw some reports that gaming is good to have Dolby / Surround sound cards that provide. Some believe so a sound card is better than amp /DAC, correct?
What you say about the Xonar Essence ST? It's as good as the Sound Blaster ZxR? I found the Xonar for a better price ...
Thank you.

The Xonar Essence STX/ST and SB-ZxR use some of the same audio hardware, so any difference in audio quality is going to be very very minor.

You can replace the three op-amps (operational amplifiers) on those cards, for around $55 you could replace the op-amps on either card, so it easy to make one card sound better then the other.

Personally I prefer the Xonar cards, so if you get a really good price on a Essence ST, go for it.

What price is it?

post #416 of 451
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Originally Posted by Pedrosotto View Post
 

Thank you. You're right, there are many options and many may be correct. I simplified my options between:
1. Yulong U100 + Razor Surround.
2. Asus DGX + O2

I think both can produce a good sound for games and movies with the ATH-A900X.

 

You might consider spend a little more and getting a used  Xonar DX or D1 sound card, to go with the O2 amplifier.

The Xonar DX/D1 comes with a better DAC chip, then the DGX.

post #417 of 451
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

 

You might consider spend a little more and getting a used  Xonar DX or D1 sound card, to go with the O2 amplifier.

The Xonar DX/D1 comes with a better DAC chip, then the DGX.

I recommended Pedrosotto the DG because he can use it as an optical transport for his future DAC > Amp, as the DG will provide the Dolby effects he is looking for.  He might never even need to upgrade past the DG, and I know many people who end their journey there :) 

post #418 of 451
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

I recommended Pedrosotto the DG because he can use it as an optical transport for his future DAC > Amp, as the DG will provide the Dolby effects he is looking for.  He might never even need to upgrade past the DG, and I know many people who end their journey there :) 

In fact, I never heard Dolby Headphone, so do not know if I will like the sound. I just know people recommend Dolby for games and movies. But there are players who live well without dolby, correct? I have to listen to see if I'll like it. So first I think I'll buy a DGX and Yulong U100 or O2. If I enjoy Dolby I sell the amp / dac.

post #419 of 451
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

The Xonar Essence STX/ST and SB-ZxR use some of the same audio hardware, so any difference in audio quality is going to be very very minor.

You can replace the three op-amps (operational amplifiers) on those cards, for around $55 you could replace the op-amps on either card, so it easy to make one card sound better then the other.

Personally I prefer the Xonar cards, so if you get a really good price on a Essence ST, go for it.

What price is it?

I found a xonar essence of US200, 00 on ebay.

post #420 of 451

Anyone compare these to Fidelio X1?

 

Have the X1, thinking of getting these instead.

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