Dilemma: Should I not believe any reviewers who talk about cables or just ignore that section of... - Page 102

Had a great time reading this, I think most of you will enjoy as well ;)

http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-or-sound

I saw the article a few days and couldn't force myself reading it after spotting the first comments:

Stop embarrassing yourself ...

So stop wasting your time with infidels ...

Stop the nonsense ...

I finally read the article, and what can I say, the comments were spot on. What a delusional, arrogant, *********** *******.

How 'bout this instead?

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"Lastly I swapped out the stock cable for the TWag2 cable (after three days using the stock cable) , here I will note I would not spend this much on a custom cable for an iem costing $300 but already had these for my JH16’s so was rude not to try them as they share the same connectors!

Straight away treble was really sparked with them sounding the most realistic I have heard them through the 3Ai’s all week and the cohesion between the bass to mid-range to highs was improved and decay of vocals and instruments was improved with the tinkle of ivory’s on the piano sounding more  real in the timbre of each key.  I had started to take the custom cable for granted until I went back to the stock cable for first time in a long time and is apparent good as this stock cable is it is a bottle neck restricting what the 3Ai is capable of by a fairly large margin."

From recent review of Heir 3Ai iems. Bottleneck.

I remember reading somewhere that an expensive cable makes the electrons change shape and transform into more pure electrons through the wiring system. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time!

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Originally Posted by uchihaitachi 

I remember reading somewhere that an expensive cable makes the electrons change shape and transform into more pure electrons through the wiring system. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time!

I can't stand the sound from electrons with impurities.   Simply the worst .....

My electrons are both grass-fed and free-range AND sourced from an organic region of the Big Bang.
 

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Originally Posted by uchihaitachi 

I remember reading somewhere that an expensive cable makes the electrons change shape and transform into more pure electrons through the wiring system. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time!

That is a snake oil sales pitch. We do not know if electrons "change shape" because we do not know their shape in the first place. No electron has ever been directly observed.

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Originally Posted by zorin 

That is a snake oil sales pitch. We do not know if electrons "change shape" because we do not know their shape in the first place. No electron has ever been directly observed.

It was heavily entrenched in sarcasm....

Here's a similar dillemma: looking into Meier Audio products they looked quite nice, then I came across http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/tipstricks.htm.. First point: break-in of drivers. So now I have no idea what to think of it. Is that stuff written by the engineers who make the amps? Is it sarcastic? Is it a way to attract believers?

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Originally Posted by stijn 

Here's a similar dillemma: looking into Meier Audio products they looked quite nice, then I came across http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/tipstricks.htm.. First point: break-in of drivers. So now I have no idea what to think of it. Is that stuff written by the engineers who make the amps? Is it sarcastic? Is it a way to attract believers?

I thought you meant software drivers in my first read through of your post lol, that would've been something mindblowing

some drivers can change with burn in but not all, more likely it is due to your ears getting used to the sound sig

Hi guys,

I had long been not believer in cable, but I recently ordered a toxic cable for my He-5le.

The inductance of the usual cable can be roughly 50 uH, when the cable is straight in usual length.

However the cable is twisted, which can reduce the inductance that can impede higher frequency band in the context of capacitance loading if there is any.

In short I was not believer of cable but of twisted cable to kill some inductance.

But I should confess that I become a little bit believer in cable quality in general.

If you actually measured the inductance of your magical cable vs a normal one, there won't be a difference. Even if there is, it would be negligible to the point that I don't think even a bat will be able to hear the difference.

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Originally Posted by uchihaitachi 

If you actually measured the inductance of your magical cable vs a normal one, there won't be a difference. Even if there is, it would be negligible to the point that I don't think even a bat will be able to hear the difference.

+1

No science involved in that one.  No cable twist changes reactive parameters enough to affect anything audible.

However, reducing resistance very definitely can be audible, something like changing from 18ga to 12ga over 50' or so.  Depending on the speaker load, that change could be audible.  But without much wire resistance you have to have a TON of L and C to audibly change much around an 8 ohm load with a near zero ohm source.