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post #121 of 1790
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About Crystal Piccolino Cable:

Crystal uses a unique silver and gold combination which helps deliver better sound and signals.

The very pure silver Crystal uses has a crystal structure. That means by solidification of the metal, you get round-shaped crystal boundaries touching each other, buy having "bad places" where they don't touch.

These bad gaps are filled/injected with gold, which is the only metal that can be used for this.

It makes the way of the electric signal smooth and in time again.

Sorry, but... I don't know what to say, I'm at a loss for words. I'm just gonna go sit in the corner with my magic stones and give this some thought.
post #122 of 1790
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

You can get an amazing difference for $25, read my posts lol.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Etymotic-Headphones-ER4P-ER4S-75-Ohm-Convertor-Cable-/280732730536

 

Don't have an E4RP exactly. I am just trying to replace my m80 cable. Are you saying that this head would improve my m80? Would be a pleasantly cheap test.

post #123 of 1790
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Quote:
About Crystal Piccolino Cable:
Crystal uses a unique silver and gold combination which helps deliver better sound and signals.
The very pure silver Crystal uses has a crystal structure. That means by solidification of the metal, you get round-shaped crystal boundaries touching each other, buy having "bad places" where they don't touch.
These bad gaps are filled/injected with gold, which is the only metal that can be used for this.
It makes the way of the electric signal smooth and in time again.
Sorry, but... I don't know what to say, I'm at a loss for words. I'm just gonna go sit in the corner with my magic stones and give this some thought.

 

 

I'm more at a loss at how expensive it is... The marketing really does sound like a crock though lol ;).

post #124 of 1790
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Exactly, that's more audible than metal conductivity.

p.s. No use to buy a silver cable unless the 3.5mm jack is silver too, imho.
Contact resistance is different from conductivity. Silver would most likely perform worse than the most common material: brass.

Anyway, why would the material of the plug make a difference in sound quality when the traces on the PCB use a mixture of tin and lead for crying out loud.
Edited by Tilpo - 5/8/12 at 12:30am
post #125 of 1790

What's the point in crystal and gold in cables anyway?  I don't get it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity#Resistivity_of_various_materials

 

 

Wikipedia used to say silver cables are used in satellites but I can't find it right now.

 

I think Silver-plated copper is used in some kind of radio fields but doesn't offer an improved audio signal over copper.

 

A lot of headphone manufacturers use 7N (high purity) copper, for some reason.

post #126 of 1790
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

What's the point in crystal and gold in cables anyway?  I don't get it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity#Resistivity_of_various_materials

 

 

Wikipedia used to say silver cables are used in satellites but I can't find it right now.

 

I think Silver-plated copper is used in some kind of radio fields but doesn't offer an improved audio signal over copper.

 

A lot of headphone manufacturers use 7N (high purity) copper, for some reason.

 

One reason is that it's cheaper. Bottom line is profit.

post #127 of 1790

Make an RC filter to see how it makes a difference. Wont cost more than $2, and the difference will be audible.

You only need a resistor and a capacitor.


Edited by proton007 - 5/8/12 at 12:32am
post #128 of 1790
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Originally Posted by DNZGamer View Post

 

Don't have an E4RP exactly. I am just trying to replace my m80 cable. Are you saying that this head would improve my m80? Would be a pleasantly cheap test.

 

I'm not saying it'll improve it, I'm saying it'll make it sound different and you may perceive it as improved, or lessened.  You may need a portable amp to get the extra juice flowing.

post #129 of 1790
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Quote:
About Crystal Piccolino Cable:
Crystal uses a unique silver and gold combination which helps deliver better sound and signals.
The very pure silver Crystal uses has a crystal structure. That means by solidification of the metal, you get round-shaped crystal boundaries touching each other, buy having "bad places" where they don't touch.
These bad gaps are filled/injected with gold, which is the only metal that can be used for this.
It makes the way of the electric signal smooth and in time again.
Sorry, but... I don't know what to say, I'm at a loss for words. I'm just gonna go sit in the corner with my magic stones and give this some thought.

 

Sprinkle some pixie dust as well.

post #130 of 1790
Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

Anyway, why would the material of the plug make a difference in sound quality when the traces on the PCB use a mixture of tin and lead for crying out loud.

 

good luck melting silver with a soldering iron. ;)  A lot of audiophiles use lead-free 4% silver 96% copper type mix.

post #131 of 1790
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

good luck melting silver with a soldering iron. wink.gif  A lot of audiophiles use lead-free 4% silver 96% copper type mix.
If you ask me, that's just stupid.

Nothing wrong with good old lead/tin solder. If it means anything, hi-tech scientific apparatus use it, as well as the military (of which people seem so fond with the over use of the term 'military-grade').
post #132 of 1790
Originally Posted by proton007 View Post

Make an RC filter to see how it makes a difference. Wont cost more than $2, and the difference will be audible.

 

well, I think that's how the early synth music was created, with Non-sinusoidal_waveform's

post #133 of 1790
Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

Nothing wrong with good old lead/tin solder. If it means anything, hi-tech scientific apparatus use it, as well as the military (of which people seem so fond with the over use of the term 'military-grade').

 

but not satellites, which use silver, according to Wikipedia, however it may be deleted now, can't find it.

 

Edit:  Just a moment lol... http://www.lunarpedia.org/index.php?title=Electrical_Conductors


Edited by kiteki - 5/8/12 at 12:44am
post #134 of 1790
Thread Starter 

Well at least I got some affordable suggestions out of this. Will see if I can get my hands on a cheap silver cable as well. Frankly, I had no idea that simple IEM cables could ever cost that much. I would love to get the makers of that cable into a blind test !!!!!

post #135 of 1790

Even if it sounded really good I'm still not sure if it would warrant the premium lol ($1000+) But if I was able to get the cable in bulk for a few hundred and DIY for several cables, I would think it to be well worth it. Now that is depending on how good it sounds, and if it does make a difference :).

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