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post #106 of 348
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I'm not sure how you could ever consider Adele's music highly compressed when mentioning Radiohead's music.  I enjoy Radiohead I really do, but their music is a prime example of compression.

 

Back to Adele, I find 19 to sound a good bit better than 21, even though 21 has a some really good tunes.

 

I don't think I was inferring that Radiohead wasn't compressed. I'm just a big Radiohead fan so I enjoy a lot of their albums and music and the details that I do make out of their music, I tend to pick it apart while listening to them. I think subjectiveness plays a lot into my enjoyment of them vs. Adele. (I'm not really into her music much, although I do appreciate it and think "Rolling in the Deep" is a catchy tune.) 

 

 

 

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That's a great resource! It's also interesting to note that despite the dynamic range limitations of some albums, what they have done with some of these is actually pretty decent results. (http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=The%20Flaming%20Lips) "Yoshima Battles the Pink Robots" has some weird things going on (phasey stuff, I'm sure I'm not describing it adequately enough) that causes it to be an aural mess and sonic orgasm at the same time. I don't know how to put into words but I do enjoy this album immensely on some tracks, despite the very poor ratings on this site.

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It's also interesting to note that despite the dynamic range limitations of some albums, what they have done with some of these is actually pretty decent results. (http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=The%20Flaming%20Lips) "Yoshima Battles the Pink Robots" has some weird things going on (phasey stuff, I'm sure I'm not describing it adequately enough) that causes it to be an aural mess and sonic orgasm at the same time. I don't know how to put into words but I do enjoy this album immensely on some tracks, despite the very poor ratings on this site.

 

I love that album as well!  The DR is only part of the equation for sure.  There's a lot of parts to these audio equations.

post #108 of 348

When it comes to music like Adele, I think most headphones perform very well.  That being said, if forced to split hairs I probably would have slightly preferred the T1 over the HD800 for most of Adele's album.

 

I don't think you should use this as a gauge to decide which headphone to buy.  The T1 is probably a better choice as a one and only kinda headphone.  It does better with poor sources, feels sturdier, and is less finicky with amps.  That being said I traded my T1 for an HD800, because I felt it complimented the LCD2 better and no regrets. With the right equipement and source, the HD800 is unrivaled imo.

post #109 of 348

I also sold my T1s for the HD800/LCD2 combo for the same reason - how do you feel the Lyr fares with both of those?  I'm debating between the Lyr and a V200...

 

Thanks,

Drew

 

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That being said I traded my T1 for an HD800, because I felt it complimented the LCD2 better and no regrets. With the right equipement and source, the HD800 is unrivaled imo.

post #110 of 348
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I finally got to hear the T1 today. 

 

I compared it to the HD800 and I preferred the HD800 with everything I threw at them. 

 

I also got to listen to the Edition 10... Wouldn't pay a lot for them, but they weren't that bad. 

post #111 of 348
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I also sold my T1s for the HD800/LCD2 combo for the same reason - how do you feel the Lyr fares with both of those?  I'm debating between the Lyr and a V200...

 

Thanks,

Drew

 

 

 

 Not much of a debate there mate - the Lyr is a very solid mid range proposition but the V200 offers excellent gain control to suit everything

 from a SE535 to a HD800 - the Lyr is a beef cake but refinement and detail is not its strong suite. The Lyr is a great amp for the price but it has no business

 being compared to a Violectric V200. 

post #112 of 348
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post

 

 

 Not much of a debate there mate - the Lyr is a very solid mid range proposition but the V200 offers excellent gain control to suit everything

 from a SE535 to a HD800 - the Lyr is a beef cake but refinement and detail is not its strong suite. The Lyr is a great amp for the price but it has no business

 being compared to a Violectric V200. 

Really? With the right tubes the Lyr was quite good with orthos....like damn good.

post #113 of 348
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Originally Posted by drews View Post

I also sold my T1s for the HD800/LCD2 combo for the same reason - how do you feel the Lyr fares with both of those?  I'm debating between the Lyr and a V200...

 

Thanks,

Drew

 

 

 

 Not much of a debate there mate - the Lyr is a very solid mid range proposition but the V200 offers excellent gain control to suit everything

 from a SE535 to a HD800 - the Lyr is a beef cake but refinement and detail is not its strong suite. The Lyr is a great amp for the price but it has no business

 being compared to a Violectric V200. 

 

 

Have you heard the Lyr with some 60's Bugle Boy or Lorenz Stuttgart tubes? I believe the Lyr is the bottleneck in my system, but I suspect a lot of impressions of the Lyr on this forum are from people who've not heard it at its best.

post #114 of 348
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Have you heard the Lyr with some 60's Bugle Boy or Lorenz Stuttgart tubes? I believe the Lyr is the bottleneck in my system, but I suspect a lot of impressions of the Lyr on this forum are from people who've not heard it at its best.

 

 True apart from the ECC88's - I have not heard any of the nicer tubes on the Lyr so perhaps that will play a big part - having said that, I don't like how the Lyr pops when

 you switch it on and off whilst still wearing headphones - it's loud enough to make you deaf!

post #115 of 348
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post

 

 True apart from the ECC88's - I have not heard any of the nicer tubes on the Lyr so perhaps that will play a big part - having said that, I don't like how the Lyr pops when

 you switch it on and off whilst still wearing headphones - it's loud enough to make you deaf!


Good point. That's why I recommend turning on the Lyr without headphones and waiting 30 seconds before plugging headphones. Make sure the keep the vol. dial to zero.

post #116 of 348

Also on the Adele DR front, if you buy the vinyl or have it ripped to flac that will give you the best dynamic range.  http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=adele&search_album=

post #117 of 348
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Good point. That's why I recommend turning on the Lyr without headphones and waiting 30 seconds before plugging headphones. Make sure the keep the vol. dial to zero.

 



But that isn't really a very good sign enginieering-wise...

post #118 of 348

Doesnt tube amps normally have time-delay relay on output to eliminate that :S Doesnt sound very good.

post #119 of 348
It may does not get any better than the HD800 for me, but the HE-6 is right up there with them.
Edited by grokit - 5/13/12 at 10:47am
post #120 of 348
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post

 

 True apart from the ECC88's - I have not heard any of the nicer tubes on the Lyr so perhaps that will play a big part - having said that, I don't like how the Lyr pops when

 you switch it on and off whilst still wearing headphones - it's loud enough to make you deaf!

Really? thats a bit concerning to be honest. most amps should mute that to the headphones during the warm up phase as it can (in theory anyway) damage the headphone driver, depending how loud it is. I dont have experience of that amplifier so im not sure if its commonplace, but it certainly doesnt sound right. only time ive heard a pop is when a tube blows. Not pleasant if you are listening to it at the time (as I was).

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