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Monoprice 8323 vs JVC rx700?

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lol sorry to get your hopes up this isn't a review comparison, this is more to get impressions from any hf members who happen to own or have owned both in the past



what are the differences between the 2? strengths 1 has over the other, general preferences? im just really curious



i did just order  a pair of jvc's to compare against my monoprice (needed something extra to get free shipping from amazon so i said why not) but i feel like goin from reviews keeping both would be redundant, so any insight from you guys would really help in my decision making

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Just a note before you read the rest of my post: I have not burned in my 8323s enough yet (only about 6 hours on them).  I have read burn-in opens up the mids a bit more (impressions from other members says it's not significant).


Second, don't post a reply so quickly after your first post.  Wait a day, at least, before bumping the thread.  Some will just ignore the thread if they already see a reply so soon (assumption that it's been answered).


Now onto my own experience with the two:


They are both on the bass-heavy side of things and some call it a V-shaped sound (more treble and bass than mids).  Personally, I love my HA-RX700s more, because of the more accurate bass.  The 8323's are tend to have muddier bass (especially on faster tracks) and more of a mid-bass thump (very noticeable).  The 8323 is great if your ears aren't large (mines are) and they will easily envelope most medium-sized or smaller ears.  However, if you have larger ears like me, they will pinch the fringes.  Fortunately, the pads on the 8323s are just about as soft as the HA-RX700.  Size-wise, the HA-RX700s are big, perhaps one of the biggest phones I've seen.  The 8323s are smaller (typical closed can size?).  The 8323 is a DJ-esque headphone so it has swivel cups (side-to-side and up-and-down) and is foldable.  The 8323 is priced at roughly $24 right now versus the HA-RX700 priced at $35 roughly (neither is including s/h).  For me, they are both used primarily for jazz, vocal jazz, hip-hop, rap (for the few tracks I have), and percussion heavy classical tracks.  


What's your budget and what do you listen to?  (Helps others help you decide on a phone that's good for you.)

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i already have the monoprice 8323's, and personally i love them, i honestly dont really find them that bass heavy if anything i find them more mid centric and the bass is just there to help fill out the sound, treble is pretty recessed though, i use them mainly for vocal trance & house as well as r&b & soul/disco, i find they pair really nice with that type of music



my main reason for creating the thread was to gather peoples opinions on both to see how they contrast because i also ordered the jvc's off amazon (hasn't arrived yet) but im starting to regret that purchase as i feel the sound signatures may not be different enough and they'd overlap and become redundant, lol worst thing you can do is have a sad lonely pair of headphones just lying around and being neglected and unused



from the reviews i've read here on headfi the 2 seem to share alot of characteristics, so this was more or less trying to gauge what side hf was on this arguement, without even hearing them im already leaning towards the monoprice 8323's with m50 pads (love em now, hated the stock pads, way too small, couldnt get a proper seal on them) it'd be great if the jvc's sounded totally different that way i get to add yet another headset to the collection lol

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Every headphone has it's own sound signature and in the end, it depends on what the listener wants out of a given pair of cans, what sound he/she is looking for, whether or not they like bass/clarity/detail, etc.  Personally, I find both to be on the bass heavy side because I usually prefer analytical phones that offer clarity, some bass, and good midrange.  My first pair of UE Super.Fi 3s set the reference standard for me and subsequent test drives of various phones have shaped me into wanting different phones for different genres of music.  I'll admit I can be a total basshead at times and on part of my collection, it just doesn't do the music experience any justice using a pair of bass-lacking analytical phones and I find I reach for my JVCs.  The 8323 gives me another choice so I can almost devote my JVC to jazzier tracks that scream for a laid back sound signature (*makes me melt*).


Don't finalize your judgment (reasoning or emotional) until you've had a chance to listen to a real pair.  I've written off other phones in the past based on written impressions and reviews from head-fiers only to go back and revised my own opinions of them when I actually had a chance to test drive them (or buy them).  You might end up loving the JVCs, you never know.


Okay, sitting here doing a quick side-by-side comparison.  Track is: Let Me Go by Cutline (dubstep).  Normal (flat) EQ on my Cowon D2 @ Volume 30.  Off the bat, my JVCs are definitely more laid back.  The 8323s are more forward and it seems to me have a clearer edge as far as the upper ranges go.  So going off of this, the two have different soundstage feel.  With the JVCs, everything is more distant, vocals I find are more center stage with bass further in the back and the high hat somewhere between.  It's like listening at a grand concert hall.  The 8323 is more of a "in your face" feel and that mid-bass...wow.  Makes the vocals seem recessed a bit, but I'd put it right behind this bass-centric track.  Might be the thump of the mid-bass giving me the impression the trebs are recessed.  One thing that does come out with the 8323s that I don't notice (unless I specifically look for it) is the soft whisper of the side vocal/echo vocal near the beginning of the track (as it's building up).  On a faster track or a busier track (orchestral comes to mind), I find bass tends to muddle out with the 8323 especially when it comes to bass and timpani rolls and such.


Edit 3: Bad habit of adding in tidbits after I submit, but I digress.  I'm loving the feel I get from the 8323 on the Snowy Mountains track off of the Battlefield Bad Company 2 Soundtrack.  Some muddiness if you listen in to the timpani roll that leads into a big bass drum thump followed on by more percussion.  Listening to the beginning of the track really gives me that airy mountain feel.


Of the two, right now the 8323 offers a much better seal and is a true closed design.  My JVCs have lost more of the clamping force over the last few months of at-home use, so the seal isn't the best.  On top of that, it being a ported design helps round out bass reproduction, but doesn't lend to a better seal.  So something to keep in mind.  I haven't brought 8323 on the go with me yet, but the JVCs I have on numerous occassions.  High wind here in The Windy City doesn't seem to effect the sound at all (at least I haven't noticed).


The JVCs (I feel) offer better low-end bass that's richer than the bass you find in the 8323s.  If you found the 8323's stock pads, small, then I'd say your ears are also on the large side (like mines).  In which case, you'll love the JVC HA-RX700s for comfort.  I can wear them for 8+ hour sessions and because of their relatively low clamp force, soft pleather pads, and large cups (which go around my ears).  I'd also lean on the side that the RX700 has clearer trebs than the 8323s, but I need to burn them in more and with a wider array of music than what I have on my Cowon D2 at the moment.


Overall, yes, they do overlap, but to me, they are each worth the money I paid for them.  I gain a foldable portability in the 8323s that I just don't get in the cumbersomely large HARX700s.  I also trade off some bass accuracy and a better low-end for the portability and design.


When you get your JVC's, don't be fooled by their size.  They are big but quite light, though somewhat heavier than the Monoprice phones.


Edit: Eeesh, I'm starting find this mid-bass thump a bit too much.  Drowns out a bit more than I'd like.  Anyone else feel like this or just me?


Edit 2: Going off of this review (http://www.head-fi.org/t/608453/monoprice-dj-headphones-8323-review), looks like swapping out the stock cables for some better stuff might improve sound.  I never put much stock into how much sound quality can be gained with a better cable, but haven't tried it myself, who am I to judge?  tongue.gif  


Edit 4: Found some charts/graphs for the Monoprice 8323 if you are interested: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/Monoprice8323.pdf  Thanks goes to TMRaven (found in the review link above).

Edited by Acreo Aeneas - 5/5/12 at 5:17pm
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