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If you had used Senn 595, then had to upgrade, cash wise - say around £300, what would you buy?

post #1 of 10
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Hello all audiophile experts and alike,

 

I'm looking to upgrade my senn595 as i keep on reading that these 650's are on another level and its started to bug me that i'm missing out.

I recently bought a Fiio E9 amp, this will be driving them for now until I buy a tube amp in the future, all connected to my Pc using a Titanium Hd soundcard (all set to audio creation mode, 44,100khz)

 

Over the last few years I've gotten used to the 595 sound (with a few eq tweaks), look below..

 

soniqware pe-1 595 preset.jpg

 

This lifts the sound ever so slightly and fills in the missing blocks, resulting in a more clear sound (minus the wall).  I only apply it in Jriver, using wasapi, for listening to flac files.

If you're lucky enough to own both the Senn 595 and higher end cans, please check my eq and then tell me where I should go from here.

 

My goal is an overall improved sound signature.  I listen to trance/house/classical and chillout mainly. 

 

I've got my eye on A 6 month old set of Senn 650 with a 8ft Zu mobius mk1 cable, would this be aan adequate upgrade that one would appreciate?


Edited by fluidz - 5/4/12 at 7:08am
post #2 of 10

Heya,

 

The HD650 might just be for your, it's very relaxed, a little on the warm side, but not overly bassy, mids are great, treble is dim and subdued, so very mellow (the veil so to speak). The E9 will power it, but not completely. The HD650 is one of those headphones that seem to really like a lot of power, and not just one power, but specifically from various amplifiers. It seems to be a little source sensitive. But I wouldn't get too caught up in that. The E9 will power it enough for you to listen. However, I would suggest that if you have not already purchased the E9 or if you can return it, to do so, and instead look at the NFB-12.1 for a little more. It will have way more power for the HD650 and give you a good DAC too and take the work away from your sound card and give you everything external and discreet from the computer. Output optical/USB/spdiff to it and just pass raw digital to it and it does the rest. Would pair well with the HD650.

 

An alternative headphone that I would suggest over the HD650 is the Hifiman HE-400. And you wouldn't have to get a new amp or anything, it would run perfectly from your HD titanium really.

 

Very best,

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hi Mal,

 

My ears are all open, especially coming from a well known audio guru such as yourself.  I'm not able to return the E9 as it was a bargain buy found in the classifieds but may sell it on if theres no need for it.  Looking into the Hifiman's, i'm seeing nothing but positive feedback - using a google search.  Are they really that good to spend £400 on a pair and how do they fit in with the Senn 800's?  Middle ground?

 

I could stretch to £400, or if they could be found cheaper elsewhere that would be even better.  Or would you recommend the Senn 650 and amp option.  Which path would you take?

 

Cheers pal.

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Hi Mal,

 

My ears are all open, especially coming from a well known audio guru such as yourself.  I'm not able to return the E9 as it was a bargain buy found in the classifieds but may sell it on if theres no need for it.  Looking into the Hifiman's, i'm seeing nothing but positive feedback - using a google search.  Are they really that good to spend £400 on a pair and how do they fit in with the Senn 800's?  Middle ground?

 

I could stretch to £400, or if they could be found cheaper elsewhere that would be even better.  Or would you recommend the Senn 650 and amp option.  Which path would you take?

 

Cheers pal.

 

Heya,

 

Given the option, and having both, I much prefer the Hifiman HE-400 over the HD650. The Hifiman has more energy, faster, and drops lower with control and authority, while having a nice sparkle, but not overly bright, but not dimmed out either. Both are comfortable. The HE-400 can run from nearly anything, so it's actually cheaper to use/run. I wouldn't directly compare it to a high-end like the HD800, as that's a very different headphone (larger sound stage, more 3D like sound, much brighter, more resolution capability). Even if you keep the Fiio E9, I would still go the HE-400 route. But that's merely my preference. I found the HD650 to be boring and just didn't have that attack for some songs, it was almost too mellow for me. I don't like harsh sounding headphones, but I don't like dim headphones either. The HE-400 is the last step before going high-end, with a high-end price as far as my ears are concerned.

 

Very best,

post #5 of 10
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Heya,

 

Given the option, and having both, I much prefer the Hifiman HE-400 over the HD650. The Hifiman has more energy, faster, and drops lower with control and authority, while having a nice sparkle, but not overly bright, but not dimmed out either. Both are comfortable. The HE-400 can run from nearly anything, so it's actually cheaper to use/run. I wouldn't directly compare it to a high-end like the HD800, as that's a very different headphone (larger sound stage, more 3D like sound, much brighter, more resolution capability). Even if you keep the Fiio E9, I would still go the HE-400 route. But that's merely my preference. I found the HD650 to be boring and just didn't have that attack for some songs, it was almost too mellow for me. I don't like harsh sounding headphones, but I don't like dim headphones either. The HE-400 is the last step before going high-end, with a high-end price as far as my ears are concerned.

 

Very best,

 

Is £400 the cheapest these go for?  Anybody found any bargains on these cans? 

 

Thanks.

post #6 of 10
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Is £400 the cheapest these go for?  Anybody found any bargains on these cans? 

 

Thanks.

Heya,

 

Dunno in your currency. Here in the States, they drop around $350~360 new with discounts, a touch less if used.

 

Very best,

post #7 of 10
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I've just looked at their store over in the US, and delivered they come to £257.55 via International Express Mail.. Would i have to pay anything else to get them shipped to the uk? Comparing the price to £400 in the uk how can i resist?

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Heya,

 

Dunno in your currency. Here in the States, they drop around $350~360 new with discounts, a touch less if used.

 

Very best,

 

Which discounts Mal, please share lol.

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I've just looked at their store over in the US, and delivered they come to £257.55 via International Express Mail.. Would i have to pay anything else to get them shipped to the uk? Comparing the price to £400 in the uk how can i resist?

 

Probably just customs on your end. Still probably less than the 400 price on your side.

 

Very best,

post #10 of 10
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Probably just customs on your end. Still probably less than the 400 price on your side.

 

Very best,

 

Thanks mal. 

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