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post #211 of 271

Thanks for the suggestion about Internet Crime Complaint Center.

 

I was talking to alamakazam the day before yesterday. He did not receive his phones as Justin said he would. He was thinking of calling the Ephrata police department but worry that they might not be of much help since he's in Singapore. I think the Internet Crime Complaint Center is the way to go.

 

As for me, my HE400 and money are still with Justin. Judged by the fact Taowolf had to get his money back from Mr. Smith's PayPal account through a claim, both Justin and his family is doing nothing to solve the problems. In this regard, I guess I have to take my next step. Sorry but I've waited enough.

post #212 of 271

Update:

 

My PayPal claim came through for me.  No one responded to my dispute or claim.  I should be refunded a total of $180 after a few days of processing.  

 

Thank you everyone for your support; good luck to those who haven't been compensated (yet).

post #213 of 271
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Originally Posted by ulogin View Post

As for me, my HE400 and money are still with Justin. Judged by the fact Taowolf had to get his money back from Mr. Smith's PayPal account through a claim, both Justin and his family is doing nothing to solve the problems. In this regard, I guess I have to take my next step. Sorry but I've waited enough.

 

Let me know if I can be of any assistance - even in a supportive role.  I've been through a mess like this before.  In my case, the police department that I dealt with was excellent and had a detective that I worked through.  My issue was wrapped up in a few weeks after I waited for months with no response from the seller who had my money.  The Internet Crimes agency does take a bit longer to follow through, though.  I don't want to create the sense of any false promises when it comes to them.  They might have a lot to deal with on their plate.  However, I still think I'd approach it both ways.  File the complaint via the Internet Crimes area and get that into the queue.  Then, contact the police department to see how they might be able to assist.  I have a good feeling that if they hear it was an Internet crime with USPS involvement (e.g. mail fraud), they might be quite interested to work with you.  Keep in mind, it wasn't necessarily the actual crimes that have brought the mob down - however, a lot of times, it was the fact that they were busted on mail fraud charges as they used the postal system for their transactions.

 

Best of luck.

post #214 of 271

^^^

+ Rep!

post #215 of 271
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Originally Posted by ulogin View Post
Judged by the fact Taowolf had to get his money back from Mr. Smith's PayPal account through a claim, both Justin and his family is doing nothing to solve the problems. In this regard, I guess I have to take my next step. Sorry but I've waited enough.

Thats very disappointing, I was expecting more :(

post #216 of 271
Thread Starter 

I doubt justin has sent my items... is been too long, I gave enough chances

 

have anyone contacted the smith family? the parents doing anything?

 

 

does anyone have his REAL home address?

 

if not, I am just going to send information to all any authorities

post #217 of 271

easiest way if you cant file paypal complaint call the local police dept where the transaction occurred and file a complaint. He will be issued a summon and if he fails to appear they will issue a warrant for his arrest and frankly I would offer him 72hrs in an email to send the stuff and money back and be done with it, If he fail file the complaint. if this is done it will also stop others from doing the same  especially if he is prosecuted. If you used paypal dont wait no more file the complaints. Hate when people do stuff like this to good people.

post #218 of 271

Wow this is heavy! Has Head-Fi stepped in to rectify the situation? I'd presume they'd be able to

pull his info. Sorry for you all that got "duped" though I prefer to look at it as trusting within the Head-Fi community only to be ****ed.

post #219 of 271

 This is really sad..

basically I think,he is a great guy

 

I did business with last January.....by the time I got the modded phones sold on e-bay..I lost 50% of what I originally laid out

post #220 of 271
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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

 This is really sad..

basically I think,he is a great guy

 

I did business with last January.....by the time I got the modded phones sold on e-bay..I lost 50% of what I originally laid out


But "basically you think,he is a great guy"?

post #221 of 271

May this be a lesson to all Modding MOT's. Myself included.

 

I'll try to keep myself out of this situation as well...

 

Best of luck to all involved.

 

Brian

post #222 of 271

Interesting thread. Wish the parents would have done more. Seems like he is a kid, wannabe modder who didn't know what he was doing. Real shoddy work. Good luck to you all.

post #223 of 271
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Wow this is heavy! Has Head-Fi stepped in to rectify the situation? I'd presume they'd be able to

pull his info. Sorry for you all that got "duped" though I prefer to look at it as trusting within the Head-Fi community only to be ****ed.

 

Head-Fi has not really stepped in.  However, they have banned him as a member and also placed a "Caution" message up near his avatar indicating that this member has unfinished / uncompleted trades.  Other than that, they really can't supply any more information.  They have taken steps by posting some safe buying tips on the F/S sections to let users know that they should not pay via the Gift method on PayPal as well as some other safety measures.  As far as more information about Justin, I believe there's a handful of us here who probably know more about him that the staff that supports this forum.

 

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Originally Posted by JosephKim View Post

Interesting thread. Wish the parents would have done more. Seems like he is a kid, wannabe modder who didn't know what he was doing. Real shoddy work. Good luck to you all.

 

It all depends on your definition of a "kid".  If someone who has completed some if not all of college, but basically doesn't work for the most part in an outside job and still lives at home ... in their early 20s ist still a kid, then you could call him that.  However, to me, as soon as someone turns 18, they have reached the age of majority.  They are officially an adult.  All the rules that used to apply to them as a minor, no longer apply because they have a whole new set of rules as an adult.  I have a great child that just turned 18 last fall.  She's never caused any trouble in her life.  Yet, I still had to remind her that the rules were now different from what they were just a few days earlier.  As an adult, there would be some things we could assist with in the event she were in any type of trouble.  However, as an adult, one has to take on some responsibility for themselves, too.  There's no room for excuses.  Most of this stuff that Justin carried out went unknowing to those who he lives with.  It was only when they were told of this thread and shown the grand total of all the outstanding debts or items that he promised to ship, but didn't all started to boil over the top of the pot.

 

Additionally, Justin had no connection to making a quality product.  People received headphones with wooden cups that had a finish that was applied very sloppy.  Others received Objective2 amplifiers that didn't work right, would pop when turned on and Justin was unable to assist any of those customers from a support perspective.  He desperately tried to get help from the DIYAudio forum on fixing these issues with the Objective2 amplifiers, but even after a period of time over there, people just plain got sick of trying to answer his questions.  I think just had the illusion that he was actually making products of high quality.  But, in reality, Justin was working with items - soldering, finishing up wooden items, etc. that he really had little to no skill in working with.  However, he had the belief that his wooden cups that were installed with the T50RP Fostex drivers and headbands should be able to command the same pricess that Smeggy's Thunderpants would command.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Justin didn't have a clue when it came to properly tuning a headphone cup.  The Thunderpants, meanwhile, are highly tuned and are constructed of more exoctic species of wood and not the cedar and maple that Justin chose to use.  Most of this can be noted in his eBay account where many buyers of his "CedarPants" headphones received them, then realized there were many issues - the wood would start cracking, etc. and the eBay buyers demanded refunds because they couldn't live with the horrible goods that they had purchased.  I'm not sure of the exact status of that one ID on eBay that he was using - either it was locked due to bad trading practices, or he just stopped using it and created a new one because of all the negative feedback that had built up.

 

Not a day goes by when I don't give this whole thing some thought.  I feel awfully bad for the members are stuck right now without their goods or their money.  They were led to believe early on that the parents would make things "right" and then they'd deal with Justin when he returned from Alaska in September.  However, the tune has changed a bit.  It seems the parents have basically washed their hands of involvement - other than his father trying to sell some various sized  wooden Grado cups for $29.95 a pair on eBay in attempt to create some income along with the mother essentially stating that things will be dealt with when Justin returns home in September.

 

To me, that is not acceptable.  I feel that proper complaints need to be lauched with the authorities.  This will mean that when Justin eventually returns from Alaska, he'll have his parents to deal with - in whatever form they're thinking of and he'll have law enforcement to face up to because of his blatent efforts of taking advantage of people by not delivering their goods after receiving payments.

post #224 of 271

Right on wje.  I notice this happens in the car world too but probably on a much larger, higher stakes scale.  I wonder what guys like Justin are thinking when they get into a situation like this?  I'd assume there's something up there that just doesn't click for some folks as to what would be generally acceptable vs poor business practices.  Unfortunately, even a as business school graduate alum, it's not as if this type of thing generally get's taught in our schools.

post #225 of 271

Got my PayPal claim refund this weekend. Make sure you put in your claim so that PayPal can investigate. Justin is not responding to anything so you will win.

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