Feedback for Justin's Headphone Modding (jschristian44) - Page 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmith 

This Justin's mom.  Sorry for not answering my husband is really mad about all this and wants Justin to fix. He does not want me to post but I think you should know why I am not answering. I talked to Justin he said he needs to get on this post for his orders. Not sure how to work all this out . He will not be able to be on a computer unless some one is with him. so if there is a way you can print out your items you paid for and items you sent.  I will mail to him. Sorry, my niece does not want involved in this and you already have my address if dealing with Justin. He is said he would make everything alright when he gets money, also will fix the ones he needs too.

Mrs. Smith,

I can understand your husband's level of frustration.  In many ways, your family was blind-sided by this big issue that ended up getting out of control.  I've been involved here for many years as I've indicated in my phone call.  If your husband reaches the point where he needs to discuss some of this with another individual, please feel free to share my phone number with him.  My phone number is the one that I included in the e-mail that I sent to you, and not the phone number on your caller ID in which I dialed from this past Saturday.

Thank you,

This thread is snowballing.  Some observations as an outsider:

1) Seems like we may want to recommend a revision to MOT status; lots of members seem confused about what exactly it means to be a MOT.  This guy clearly has NO business going anywhere near a soldering iron or lathe or set of headphones or handling money.

2) As a person who has been there and done that I'd cut your losses if you can but hope for the best.  As a total, you guys are out a bunch of money, but individually it's not as bad as I've seen or personally experienced.  We live in a sick sad world.

3) It sounds like Justin's parents understand he screwed up but are looking at this from a "Justin got called to the principal's office" today type situation when in fact it is nowhere close to that.  I'd probably liken it more to "Hey your son is wanted by the police."  Not that I'm proclaiming to give advice or anything but this is a serious problem, not something you can just laugh off a year from now.

4) Sarcasm really has no place in this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Sneis 

This thread is snowballing.  Some observations as an outsider:

 

1) Seems like we may want to recommend a revision to MOT status; lots of members seem confused about what exactly it means to be a MOT.  This guy clearly has NO business going anywhere near a soldering iron or lathe or set of headphones or handling money.

 

2) As a person who has been there and done that I'd cut your losses if you can but hope for the best.  As a total, you guys are out a bunch of money, but individually it's not as bad as I've seen or personally experienced.  We live in a sick sad world.

 

3) It sounds like Justin's parents understand he screwed up but are looking at this from a "Justin got called to the principal's office" today type situation when in fact it is nowhere close to that.  I'd probably liken it more to "Hey your son is wanted by the police."  Not that I'm proclaiming to give advice or anything but this is a serious problem, not something you can just laugh off a year from now.

 

4) Sarcasm really has no place in this thread.

Thank you for your outside perspective.  I have a response to your comments:

1) 100% agree, there needs to be a revision to the MOT status.  Before this I was tempted to become a member of the trade, since I make leather headbands for Grados and various items for friends.  Now I do not even dare, after what has happened here.  I think buyers should feel they are safe by purchasing though members.  And sellers should feel comfortable.  I don't think this started off as a scam, but  it sounds like Justin is just a kid.  There should be some safe-guards set up to prevent this fiasco.  

2) I will not "cut my losses" not while PayPal keeps my claim open, anyways.  For those past the 45 days, I feel for you, but I have little faith at this point.  All I have to say is "Good luck."

3) I am not touching this one...
 

4) 100% agree.  Keep things constructive.

Will the credit card company reverse charges? Curious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netdewt 

Will the credit card company reverse charges? Curious.

 

Never know unless you talk to em. I am sure there is a limitation window like with PayPal, but it would never hurt to make a phonecall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netdewt 

Will the credit card company reverse charges? Curious.

They usually will, but it's a hell of a pain to do usually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Sneis 

This thread is snowballing.  Some observations as an outsider:

 

3) It sounds like Justin's parents understand he screwed up but are looking at this from a "Justin got called to the principal's office" today type situation when in fact it is nowhere close to that.  I'd probably liken it more to "Hey your son is wanted by the police."  Not that I'm proclaiming to give advice or anything but this is a serious problem, not something you can just laugh off a year from now.

 

Your response with the comment provided is spot-on.  I know that my earlier comments regarding law enforcement did concern "dsmith" a bit.  However, if we have people running around our society thinking that such behavior is OK, I'll have to tell them that it clearly is NOT.  I have no problems dealing with law enforcement.  If the thought of this who situation is starting to cool down a bit and the idea to wait until Justin returns in September to resume the efforts of "making things right" seems totally unacceptable to me.

Disclaimer: Please do take my opinions as careful advice.  I'm not encouraging everyone to act based upon what I've stated.  However, in my life, I've usually always achieved, reach a goal, succeeded or got what I was after by PERSISTING.  Yes.  Persisting and not backing down is key to most situations with life.  When an individual sees the persisting action, they realize how serious you are or how much it means to you to get something.  But, for those who accept the first answer or response and think that is the final word, then the person they are dealing with has clearly won in the situation since the individual did not persist.  This has been your piece of free information for today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netdewt 

Will the credit card company reverse charges? Curious.

Process is called Credit Card Charge-back, call them up and explain the current situation (possibly reference them to this thread) and see what they can do for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zardon 

Any good news yet for anyone?

Nope...

Escalated to a claim. I'll see if PayPal does something quickly, then I'll call the credit card.

I just received my money back through a paypal claim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taowolf51 

I just received my money back through a paypal claim.

It's good to hear that your issue has been resolved - somewhat, and you can close the chapter and move on with your life.  For the "others" out there who are distanced, or have been pushed-away lately from the family in regards to a speedy resolution of goods or monies that Justin collected and didn't follow through on an agreement, I'll suggest the following two avenues:

Borough of Ephrata Police Department:

http://www.ephrataboro.org/ephrataboro/cwp/view.asp?a=6&q=536574

The Internet Crime Complaint Center (co-parnered with the FBI):

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Enough time has been "given" to sort these items out and start processing the returns of items, or payments that were made to Justin and where he failed to deliver.

Best of luck to you.  I do realize that Justin's family has intended to seek resolutions for this and to protect their son.  However, I will also state - as I've stated before, what has happened is a CRIME.  Crime can not, and should not be ignored.  Sure, one who has lost money might feel that they can just write off the $200 they are owed and it's not worth chasing down.  I can see a point in this because: 1) We only have one life, and we should make the best of it and trying to chase down $200 could be too much of a hassle and stressful.  However, I also think, 2) It appears that Justin's parents have tried their best to protect their son.  But, Justin is an adult.  Adults need to take responsiblities.  If an adult fails to be responsible, then they need to be held accountable for their actions.