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post #91 of 947

Well, I was talking about bad hardware implementation of the wolfson, not about bad software implementation as we all know supercurio will fix that. SGS was subpar when released because of the hardcoded in the kernel bad eq. It had to be disabled manually after each reboot. And supercurio was the one who said that the yamaha DAC in the SGS2 was badly designed and he couldn't do anything about improving its sq, so that's not my assumption. And finally, the iphones are highly regarded and one of the most used devices in a portable rig but the wolfson DACs have bigger fanbase not because they are implemented in the SGS but because they are implemented in a lot of other devices like ibasso and pico products, some of the ipods and so on.

post #92 of 947
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Well, I was talking about bad hardware implementation of the wolfson, not about bad software implementation as we all know supercurio will fix that. SGS was subpar when released because of the hardcoded in the kernel bad eq. It had to be disabled manually after each reboot. And supercurio was the one who said that the yamaha DAC in the SGS2 was badly designed and he couldn't do anything about improving its sq, so that's not my assumption. And finally, the iphones are highly regarded and one of the most used devices in a portable rig but the wolfson DACs have bigger fanbase not because they are implemented in the SGS but because they are implemented in a lot of other devices like ibasso and pico products, some of the ipods and so on.

So what about Optimus 2X?

No he said the SG2 was badly implimented at a hardware level, and as I pointed out to him any measurements he was taking are a cumulative result of the circuit not the DAC alone. The output impedance was very high for example, is this the fault of the DAC or subsequent circuitry? The only way to interigate the DAC indipendently is to probe it which, to cut a long story short, is impossible.

Look, if people want to be Wolfson fans thats fine...we all have preferrences. I'm just trying to impart a little bit of my very limited wisdom on people so they can make a more informed decision. . . . . . .and bang my head against the wall in the process biggrin.gif
post #93 of 947

I guess people are enthusiatic about the SGS3 sq because there isn't a Samsung device with badly implemented wolfson DAC for now. Of course, we are all making assumptions here to keep the thread going and I don't think there is anyone on head-fi, who will be buying the SGS3 day one just on assumptions. We'll all wait for measurements and probably supercurio's approval and oppinion on what he can do with that DAC. There is no need for you to bang your head against the wall for that. Just do as I do and bang your head while listening to some nice music on a good rig with a pair of your favorite headphones - that always brings the tension down and makes me care less about forum arguments or people who don't agree with my views  L3000.gif


Edited by kova4a - 5/10/12 at 4:12pm
post #94 of 947

Joke? More people here on head-fi claim to use the iPhone 4(S) as a source than any other smartphone. There is a "fanclub" for Wolfson-bearing phones probably BECAUSE of the iPhone, because they are the best non-iPhone smartphone sources.

 

I hear a lot of down-talk about the 2x but not from anyone who's heard it rooted with Voodoo. 

 

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Well the SGS wasn't regarded as 'great' until voodoo'd and LG Optimus 2X is rather average...both of which are Wolfson.
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The Iphones have always been highly regarded and they use Cirrus Logic and yet there doesn't seem to be the same fan club for them.
SG2's main issue with noise was locating the audio chip directly opposite the CPU, without access to the PCB gerbers I cannot tell you if they attempted to shield it internally. Your assumption of a badly designed Yamaha DAC is an assumption only, poorly implemented yes.
Look I understand the wall I'm banging my head against, but in the event the SG3 doesn't turn out that great for audio don't blame Wolfson...blame Samsung.
post #95 of 947
Thread Starter 

I've heard Supercurio talk down the 2x because of how it's implemented.

post #96 of 947
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Joke? More people here on head-fi claim to use the iPhone 4(S) as a source than any other smartphone. There is a "fanclub" for Wolfson-bearing phones probably BECAUSE of the iPhone, because they are the best non-iPhone smartphone sources.

I hear a lot of down-talk about the 2x but not from anyone who's heard it rooted with Voodoo. 

Sorry Gilly, by this I mean specifically Cirrus Logic not the Iphone. I know the Iphone gets plently of attention, and so it should, but logically so should Cirrus logic based on it's association but I rarely hear it mentioned.

I agree Kova, wait until the SG3 is out and tested before commiting....I'm only biting as people are making moves purely based on it containing a Wolfson.

I'll leave it at that, and I do hope it lives up to it's potential for SQ
post #97 of 947

Well the Wolfson chip is a common denominator for multiple Android phones, and supercurio has done development almost exclusively for the Wolfson chip to improve the sq of phones and devices containing it, so the name is more popular than most, and not without good reason. AFAIK the iPhone is the only popular device that uses the Cirrus Logic chip.

post #98 of 947

What's wrong with looking forward to a product from a company that has a history of making good products? You might as well say "What's all the hype about the iPhone 5?"

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Sorry Gilly, by this I mean specifically Cirrus Logic not the Iphone. I know the Iphone gets plently of attention, and so it should, but logically so should Cirrus logic based on it's association but I rarely hear it mentioned.
I agree Kova, wait until the SG3 is out and tested before commiting....I'm only biting as people are making moves purely based on it containing a Wolfson.
I'll leave it at that, and I do hope it lives up to it's potential for SQ
post #99 of 947
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What's wrong with looking forward to a product from a company that has a history of making good products? You might as well say "What's all the hype about the iPhone 5?"

Gilly, that's not what I'm saying and I think you know that
post #100 of 947

Could somebody link me a good 64GB sdxc card thats available in the UK (Amazon UK maybe)...I have been looking for AGES and cant really tell what will be good and what wont for < £40 :(

 

Cheers all...and blue vs white hmmmmmmmm confused.gif

post #101 of 947
Cirrus sounds great in the 7g iPod classic for your info. Much better than the wolfson in the 5g iPod video
post #102 of 947
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Cirrus sounds great in the 7g iPod classic for your info. Much better than the wolfson in the 5g iPod video

Not to me smily_headphones1.gif
post #103 of 947

Then what are you saying? I only read what you type.

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Gilly, that's not what I'm saying and I think you know that
post #104 of 947

I guess its not totally unreasonable to want to be anti-hype-machine or whatever, but nobody's already trying to say it's great before they've heard it; we are just happy that there are signs that it won't be mediocre audio like the GS2, and I don't think that's unreasonable either. Some people dislike Apple on principle, because they are legally aggressive to the point of disingenuousness and have a quasi-fascist aura about their corporate ethos, and are happy to hear news pointing towards a non-Apple smartphone that matches or bests its overall capabilities, including audio. Wolfson has made a good name for themselves in the industry, leads us to believe that the GS3 will have good sound quality, and supercurio makes lots of modifications for Wolfson DAC Android phones which allow a high level of control over the DAC, which is an audiophile's dream. I don't see anything wrong with getting excited about that.


Edited by Gilly87 - 5/11/12 at 11:10am
post #105 of 947
Well it's looking good:
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Bit more crosstalk than One X, One S and indeed Iphone but very low distortion
Edited by NuckinFutz - 5/11/12 at 4:41pm
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