Originally Posted by danny93
Well Supercurio who tested both, said that the Wolfson in the S3 was superior by quite a margin compared with the Fiio E17 and people should not waste money on buying DAC´s to bypass the better internal Wolfson
Patience is key...Voodoo will be out shortly, and I have high expectations from Supercurio´s reports
I think you're overstating what Supercurio actually said a little, or at least from what I saw of what he said. He said based on his measurements the E17 was inferior to the Wolfson, and he didn't suggest getting that particular DAC, as far as I'm aware he didn't make more expansive comments about using external DACs in general (I could be wrong about that, I may not have seen everything he said on the topic). He also didn't stipulate whether his Wolfson tests were using his Voodoo'd one or not, which is obviously a fairly major distinction in terms of the context of those comments.
Like you though I am really hanging out for Voodoo to come, I also have high hopes for the improvements it might bring.
In relation to some of your earlier comments:
Firstly, in relation to the excitement about the Wolfson - my excitement about that was because Supercurio confirmed he will develop Voodoo Sound for it because it means that regardless of how neutered Samsung's implementation may or may not have turned out (factors outside the DAC affected the quality of the output) he is likely to be able to substantially improve things. That's why my excitement to use USB DACs with the S3 is completely congruous with my initial excitement, rather than being any kind of contradiction - it achieves the same end - abstracting sound from the things Samsung might have done to mess with it.
You seem to have taken my comment about your advice to the poster on the previous page... well, actually I'm not sure how, except to say that not in the spirit they were made in. I wasn't trying to put your opinion down or anything. In my mind it is one thing to give your opinion, and another to give purchasing advice. I think in the case of the latter it's important to recognise balance where there isn't consensus so that the possible purchaser isn't disappointed. It just flags that its an area of possible contention so they can do their due diligence until they are satisfied one way or the other, which seem the responsible thing to do, especially when the person has basically said that their purchasing decision is going to be finalised on that one piece of information. I'm not for a second saying that your opinion needs to be universal in order to give advice, only that I think giving balanced advise is important when opinion isn't universal. You appear to disagree and that's fine.
In relation to advising people to get their own ears-on and suggesting that isn't helping anyone, I disagree. It's not as if the S3 is vaporware like a lot of the equipment discussed here at Head-Fi, much of that other gear is next to impossible for people to audition, so I think it's not unreasonable that people will accept not getting ears-on before purchasing. Where things are to all intents and purposes freely available to try like the S3 I think it perfectly reasonable and helpful to recommend auditioning gear, particularly when clear consensus isn't available (and even more so when their purchasing decision potentially hinges on it).
Anyways, I don't think we need to clutter up the thread with discussions of this kind so that's all I have to say on the matter. Happy to try and reach a mutual understanding via PM, or simply agree to disagree.
Edited by NZtechfreak - 7/23/12 at 10:15pm