or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear › I Basso HDP R 10 is IBasso DX 100 Japan Version impressions thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

I Basso HDP R 10 is IBasso DX 100 Japan Version impressions thread - Page 74

post #1096 of 1621
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Regarding any apple device ,there is no output higher than 16/88.2. That's it. For now.
Now a CPU or android allows full resolution to be out out .
Al

 

[OT and further discussions probably can continue on the Apple thread[/OT]...

but I have successfully played AIFF 24/192 off my iPad that's sync-ed manually from iTunes - no magic, no JB-ing, and all Apple software used. This was output on headphone out, and on desktop DAC (with digital display) that confirmed it was receiving hires from the iPad.

 

Meanwhile zachchen1996 is right that with the Onkyo Player it can output DSD native to an external DAC such as the Herus.

 

Meanwhile with regards to Android, I find that's where I have limitations as there's no standard to their USB Audio (or if there is, it's not adopted by all the various Android flavours by phone makers). UAPP seems to be an interrim solution to that but it's proprietary nevertheless. And there's still no native DSD support on Android still.

[/OT]

I've left clickable links to carry on this conversation.

 

Back on The HDP-R10, I'm not surprised the R10 "outperforms" the AK120 as for me even when I owned the DX100, I preferred it over the AK120. I bought the AK120 anyway 'cos the DX100 GUI wasn't to my preference. I'd gather the R10 was the same.

 

About DSD, I hope readers understand that just because an album says "DSD" it doesn't mean it's automatically better. There are various qualities to DSD depending on it's mastering. Some DSD vs PCM aren't discernable, whilst others are more easily discernable. It cannot be generalised that all DSD albums are better than their PCM equivalents. If one were to go back to the hard format of DSD days (i.e. SACDs), google up Norah Jones' "Come Away With Me" and read up about it's CD, SACD in 2003 release, and again it's SACD in 2012 release. There's a reason why the SACD was re-released in 2012.

post #1097 of 1621
Thanks for the input and a way to play the real high res. my info I stated was from cypherlabs . When I bought the dac from them I noticed the playback resolution . I think his name was Dave he told me what was going on . Again thanks for the clarification. As I am considereing buying a Hugo and use the hdpr10 as a transport . Reg the onkyo I never heard of the unit .
Al
post #1098 of 1621

I received this player today. I put 30 GB of lossless music on it. M4A and WAV. I'm waiting for it to be ready to use. It's still in the phase of lagging and freezing due to caching all the data. While the screen is off, it's warm. I'll let it do it's preparation and check it again later.


Edited by s0ny - 6/5/14 at 12:50pm
post #1099 of 1621
i would reload the 8.03 software. it is the newest do not use the 9.03 as it has google in it if you do turn off all features .
if you intend to use other features besides the stock player best of luck to you. i use it every day it is ok the only time it is slow is with 64 dsd . and it is not that slow but annoying . what firmware do you have and are you leaving anything else running be hoest now hahahahaha
al
post #1100 of 1621

I can't check the firmware right now. It's still in the process of freezing. The only thing I can do now is press the power on button to turn on the screen and press it again to turn off the screen. When I turn on the screen and press+hold the power button, I can open the power off menu, but it doesn't respond at all. I managed to power it off 2 times, but now, it totally freezes. The software is in the Albums screen. I can't scroll down and can't switch to Home or Back. It simply stays in the Albums menu. How long (minutes/hours) do I have to wait before the device is ready? If it is possible, I want to slim down to a faster firmware like you suggested and turn off everything that I don't need. I only want the music player, nothing else. I have an iPhone for other things.

post #1101 of 1621
ok take a breath there is a tiny whole on the side where the memory card slot is find something tiny . not metal and push it . when you do it will reboot . now do not play music and go through the menu,s and stop everything .
al
post #1102 of 1621
Thanks Al. A reset did the trick. Now it responds properly.
Edited by s0ny - 6/5/14 at 2:08pm
post #1103 of 1621
Ok so now ur off to the races , enjoy
Al
post #1104 of 1621
I listened to my daily songs and compared the HDP-R10 to my iPhone 5S using the blue balanced filter of the Shure SE846. The HDP-R10 has a very sharp treble that hurts my ears. I was forced to lower the volume level because of this. Switching from slow roll-off to sharp roll-off in the DF-filter setting fixed this. Now it sounds much more pleasant and I can turn up the volume. The R10 seems to have a 3D-like sound signature, which I like. The instrument separation is impressive. The sound is so wide and detailed that it is a joy to listen to.

The hardware/software combination still leaves a lot to be desired though. I shutdown the device for a nightly full charge. When I booted it again, I had to wait for over half an hour and reset 6 times before the R10 finally cooperated to play songs. I have to bring a paperclip with me from now on when I'm outdoors. When the device finally is up and running, there's some lag in the UI but it's not that bad. The UI is straightforward and user-friendly. When it freezes, this device takes a lot of frustrating time and effort to get it to work again. From now on, I won't do full shutdowns. I'll just let it in idle mode for as long as possible to prevent freezes, until I add new music.
Edited by s0ny - 6/6/14 at 1:47am
post #1105 of 1621
Quote:
Originally Posted by s0ny View Post

I listened to my daily songs and compared the HDP-R10 to my iPhone 5S using the blue balanced filter of the Shure SE846. The HDP-R10 has a very sharp treble that hurts my ears. I was forced to lower the volume level because of this. Switching from slow roll-off to sharp roll-off in the DF-filter setting fixed this. Now it sounds much more pleasant and I can turn up the volume. The R10 seems to have a 3D-like sound signature, which I like. The instrument separation is impressive. The sound is so wide and detailed that it is a joy to listen to.

The hardware/software combination still leaves a lot to be desired though. I shutdown the device for a nightly full charge. When I booted it again, I had to wait for over half an hour and reset 6 times before the R10 finally cooperated to play songs. I have to bring a paperclip with me from now on when I'm outdoors. When the device finally is up and running, there's some lag in the UI but it's not that bad. The UI is straightforward and user-friendly. When it freezes, this device takes a lot of frustrating time and effort to get it to work again. From now on, I won't do full shutdowns. I'll just let it in idle mode for as long as possible to prevent freezes, until I add new music.

now i am really wondering about the sharpness of the treble u mention, that is something i total i want to avoid. I like more of V shaped curve signature, but not the treble hurts. How is the bass, and do u find the sound has a warm signature???

 

It seems as other mentioned only HM601 has a warm signature so I might get it instead of the HDR

post #1106 of 1621
I own the unit for almost 3. Years ,Mira used daily it's not bright. In fact i use the eq with my ciems, maybe some have super human hearing like my dog . Most do not. I read the post and felt something els is wrong. However there are many daps to pick from , read reviews from many people not a post a it is an observation of one person who may like or not like or know what they doing with it.
Al
post #1107 of 1621
Quote:
Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post
 

now i am really wondering about the sharpness of the treble u mention, that is something i total i want to avoid. I like more of V shaped curve signature, but not the treble hurts. How is the bass, and do u find the sound has a warm signature???

 

It seems as other mentioned only HM601 has a warm signature so I might get it instead of the HDR

 

The default DF-filter is set to "slow roll-off", causing the sharp, annoying treble. I generally do like treble, but the default treble on the HDP-R10 is so sharp that it dominates the rest of the music and hurts my ears. I tried to get used to it for about an hour and gave up. The treble is too harsh and aggressive. Since I changed the DF-filter from "slow roll-off" to "sharp roll-off", the sound has become very musical. No treble problem ever since.

 

I'm no expert in sound, so I can only tell you how I experience the sound as a consumer. The R10 is not emphasized on bass and mids, even though I use the Shure SE846 on it. Note that I might be too used to the SE846 to judge it properly. I haven't listened to my previous IEMs for months. The R10 adapts to the type of music. When I listen to pop music, everything sounds full and close. When I listen to rock music, it sounds very realistic. The bass is about the same as any decent player. Not more, but not less either. The things that really make the R10 shine is the space of the sound and the realism of the instruments.

post #1108 of 1621
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I own the unit for almost 3. Years ,Mira used daily it's not bright. In fact i use the eq with my ciems, maybe some have super human hearing like my dog . Most do not. I read the post and felt something els is wrong. However there are many daps to pick from , read reviews from many people not a post a it is an observation of one person who may like or not like or know what they doing with it.
Al


Completely off topic but which breed you have? I have a 9 months old Border Terrier, he has been with me since he was 8 weeks old, my dog is the best thing in my life hands down :happy_face1:

post #1109 of 1621
I have six dogs we show some . I have Manchester terroir standard , two cairn terriers. A poodle , a lab mix with rotti and a mini pin . And you are correct they are great. They are always happy to see you as well as willing to do what you ask . Lmao. Going back to topic I was not trying to be rude and I will say I am sorry but as I sue it daly how can two people hear so different ?
Al
post #1110 of 1621
I tried some 24 bit 96 kHz albums. I don't know if they are really 24 bit or upsampled. I need to find a tool to measure them. They sounded like 16 bit 44.1 kHz albums. The HDP-R10 has a very addictive sound signature. The next step is to find a good case. I don't like silicon sleeves. Hopefully, I can find a generic leather one that fits perfectly. And clean up the tags in all albums.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Portable Source Gear
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear › I Basso HDP R 10 is IBasso DX 100 Japan Version impressions thread